Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows?
It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.

and now they are trying to milk starwars.

SAD!

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Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows?
It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.

and now they are trying to milk starwars.

SAD!

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Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to All on Fri Sep 01 2023 12:43 am

MR> Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows? It's like
MR> the zombie shit they played out years ago.

I was never really much into superhero movies (with a few exceptions). I've been thinking superhero movies have been way overdone for years.

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Re: superhero shit
By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 08:51 am

> Re: superhero shit
> By: MRO to All on Fri Sep 01 2023 12:43 am
>
> MR> Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows? It's
> MR> like the zombie shit they played out years ago.
>
> I was never really much into superhero movies (with a few exceptions). I've
> been thinking superhero movies have been way overdone for years.
>

i certainly do not like the marvel movies. they have lame attempts at humor.
i did like thor ragnarok and black panther. i did not like the colonizer remarks in that movie, though.

dc's movies are total trash but they do have some great animated films.

there's not much i do like, but i usually go for mindfuck movies;i like a surpise.

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Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to Nightfox on Fri Sep 01 2023 11:25 am

MR> i certainly do not like the marvel movies. they have lame attempts at
MR> humor. i did like thor ragnarok and black panther. i did not like the
MR> colonizer remarks in that movie, though.

The Guardians of the Galaxy movies are probably the only recent ones I really liked. It just feels like superhero movies have been done to death though, and most of the recent ones seem fairly drawn out too, at around 2 and a half or 3 hours long. I don't think they really need to be that long.

MR> there's not much i do like, but i usually go for mindfuck movies;i like a
MR> surpise.

I think Predestination (2014) isn't bad for that, if you haven't seen it.

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Re: superhero shit
By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 01:21 pm

> MR> there's not much i do like, but i usually go for mindfuck movies;i like
> MR> a surpise.
>
> I think Predestination (2014) isn't bad for that, if you haven't seen it.

yeah i saw that. the trans one. i didnt expect THAT

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Re: superhero shit
By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 01:21 pm

Ni> The Guardians of the Galaxy movies are probably the only recent ones I
Ni> really liked. It just feels like superhero movies have been done to death
Ni> though, and most of the recent ones seem fairly drawn out too, at around 2
Ni> and a half or 3 hours long. I don't think they really need to be that
Ni> long.

I agree. With the exception of Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor Ragnarok I've really struggled to get into anything in the Marvel world since the days of Iron Man and Spider Man.

They just feel all the same to me. Every other movie I've watched in the Marvel category of late I've ended up tuning out and doing something else - just leaving it on in the background.

I've had Disney+ since it launched here in 2019 but just cancelled my subscription as I haven't seen anything of note released for a while that's not from Marvel.

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Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to Nightfox on Fri Sep 01 2023 04:21 pm

MR> yeah i saw that. the trans one. i didnt expect THAT

It was a great movie. I really should watch Predestination again.

Chronicle was probably one of the more recent "Superhero" type movies that I actually liked (even though it's about 10 years old now). While the "handycam" type filming technique does get a bit annoying I still enjoyed it for something that wasn't just throwing as much CGI as they could.

And while I did enjoy the first one, Shazam Fury of the Gods was another waste of time. I really wanted to like it as I love Helen Mirren and enjoyed the first one but I couldn't get into it.

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-=> MRO wrote to All <=-

MR> Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows?
MR> It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.

Didn't Marvel's "What if?" do Zombie Super Heroes?

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Re: superhero shit
By: Ewing to MRO on Sat Sep 02 2023 08:16 am

> Re: superhero shit
> By: MRO to Nightfox on Fri Sep 01 2023 04:21 pm
>
> MR> yeah i saw that. the trans one. i didnt expect THAT
>
> It was a great movie. I really should watch Predestination again.
>
> Chronicle was probably one of the more recent "Superhero" type movies that I

oh i forgot about that one. that was a good movie.

> And while I did enjoy the first one, Shazam Fury of the Gods was another
> waste of time. I really wanted to like it as I love Helen Mirren and enjoyed
> the first one but I couldn't get into it.

i didnt see the first one, but saw the 2nd one. it was crappy.
i saw blue beetle recently and it totally sucked. also they played fucking
la cucaracha like 10x in the movie.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 06:39 am

> -=> MRO wrote to All <=-
>
> MR> Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows?
> MR> It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.
>
> Didn't Marvel's "What if?" do Zombie Super Heroes?
>

yeah they did the comic marvel zombies to jump on the zombie bandwagon.
they had ash in there for a little bit too.

whatif was just a way to spotlight it.

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Hello MRO!

** On Friday 01.09.23 - 11:25, MRO wrote to Nightfox:

M> there's not much i do like, but i usually go for mindfuck movies;i like a
M> surpise.

Would Tenet qualify? It and even Inception (both by Christopher
Nolan) seem very mind-bending.

Memento had a cool time-frame treatment that started with two
separate timelines and converged into one.

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Re: superhero shit
By: Ogg to MRO on Sun Sep 03 2023 05:40 pm

> Hello MRO!
>
> ** On Friday 01.09.23 - 11:25, MRO wrote to Nightfox:
>
> M> there's not much i do like, but i usually go for mindfuck movies;i like
> M> a surpise.
>
> Would Tenet qualify? It and even Inception (both by Christopher

i couldn't get into tenet. it didnt grab me

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Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to All on Fri Sep 01 2023 12:43 am

> and now they are trying to milk starwars.

Such a shame to see a tiny passion project like Star Wars be turned into a vehicle for shameless consumerism

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Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to All on Fri Sep 01 2023 12:43 am

> Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows?
> It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.
>
> and now they are trying to milk starwars.
>
> SAD!
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I feel you.

It is all a reflection of the state of creative bankrupcy the West is in now.

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Re: superhero shit
By: Margaerynne to MRO on Mon Sep 04 2023 12:30 am

> Re: superhero shit
> By: MRO to All on Fri Sep 01 2023 12:43 am
>
> > and now they are trying to milk starwars.
>
> Such a shame to see a tiny passion project like Star Wars be turned into a
> vehicle for shameless consumerism

i wouldnt call it a passion project.

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Re: superhero shit
By: MRO to All on Fri Sep 01 2023 00:43:20

MR> Is everyone pretty much DONE with superhero movies and tv shows?
MR> It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.

I don't think people are "DONE" with the content so much that most of the stories are very played out and formula driven. Disney/Marvel in particular are pretty bad about not creating any real tension or consequence (more below).

MR> and now they are trying to milk starwars.

An example of this, is that Disney/Lucas Star Wars has used a light saber through the gut a total of 4 times in recent TV and Movies, and the characters lived through it... this should simply not be the case... It absolutely should be a fatal blow. Hot plasma burning essential organs should mean death. At least the got that right in Episode 1. They removed consequences.

And while the Andor series was pretty good, and the first couple seasons of Mandalorean were good, the studio (Kennedy) just seems to have too much influence over the movies and series and compelling story is lost over "flawless" characters, or characters that don't learn.

Episode 4 of Ahsoka was better than the other three, but still not great. Ray Stevenson is one of the few bright points in the series, and the only character who seems to match the stoicism the character should have. Sabine and Hera don't match their animated counterparts at all and Ahsoka herself seems a bit off. Savine, Hera and Ahsoka all seem to be stoic for no real reason, and lacking other character in order to hide any potential character flaws, or ability to grow as parts.

I think there's still room for super hero and scifi driven stories, but they have to be good. Have decent motivation, character development and work for it. For as bad as Game of Thrones ended, at least they did interresting things, like killing off main characters through the seasons. Disney seems absolutely incapable of this anymore.


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Re: superhero shit
By: Ewing to Nightfox on Sat Sep 02 2023 08:09:07

Ew> They just feel all the same to me. Every other movie I've watched in the
Ew> Marvel category of late I've ended up tuning out and doing something else
Ew> - just leaving it on in the background.

They follow a very similar formula arch over the movies... the characters are slightly different but the pacing is much the same, and there's no real tention or risk in any of it. If they did something different, leave the ending with a bad guy winning, or a character that actually grows, or someone of significance actually dying (I don't think Iron Man in infinity war quite counts since it's more of a one off that people knew was coming).

Ew> I've had Disney+ since it launched here in 2019 but just cancelled my
Ew> subscription as I haven't seen anything of note released for a while
Ew> that's not from Marvel.

You can't get Hulu without Disney+, but may be dropping that since we aren't using the Live TV feeds as much lately.


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Re: superhero shit
By: Ewing to MRO on Sat Sep 02 2023 08:16:47

Ew> And while I did enjoy the first one, Shazam Fury of the Gods was another
Ew> waste of time. I really wanted to like it as I love Helen Mirren and
Ew> enjoyed the first one but I couldn't get into it.

Blue Beetle was fun, similar to first Shazam, not great but fun. May want to give "Invincible" and "The Boys" a look on Amazon. Quite a bit different than the formula shows.


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Re: superhero shit
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Mon Sep 11 2023 08:39 pm

Tr> characters lived through it... this should simply not be the case... It
Tr> absolutely should be a fatal blow. Hot plasma burning essential organs
Tr> should mean death. At least the got that right in Episode 1. They removed
Tr> consequences.

Also an apt metaphor for the franchise as a whole.

Tr> Disney seems absolutely incapable of this anymore.

I just think they don't try anymore.

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Tr> Blue Beetle was fun, similar to first Shazam, not great but fun. May
Tr> want to give "Invincible" and "The Boys" a look on Amazon. Quite a bit
Tr> different than the formula shows.

I enjoyed "The Boys", love the trope of a world where superheroes are
the norm.

There was an ITV series called "No Heroics", about a world full of
superheroes. It was a Friends-like storyline with some b-list
superheroes, like ElectroFlash, a woman who can talk to machines (and
uses her powers to get money and cigarettes from ATMs and vending
machines), a man with a drinking problem and the ability to see 30
seconds into the future, and The Hotness, a guy who can make small
fires on his hands - he's seen using his powers to heat a microwave
entree at home in front of telly.

A similar movie came out years ago called "Mystery Men", it's pretty
entertaining if you like the trope.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tracker1 on Wed Sep 13 2023 06:49 am

> A similar movie came out years ago called "Mystery Men", it's pretty
> entertaining if you like the trope.

This is my favorite all-time movie. I know I might be the only one on the planet though haha. It was perfect for when it came out though.

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> It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.

Zombie movies are great. Army of the Dead was great, then the prequel Army of
Thieves, great. I could watch Mila Jovovich forever.

> and now they are trying to milk starwars.

What's the common denominator with hero films and Star Wars? Disney. Talk about
a company that has completely lost touch with their founder's vision. Even the
new movie Wish is just a pile of uncreative nonsense that still manages to
"reimagine" old Disney tropes into more of the same ole same ole. I get the
whole inclusivity movement, but I feel like it's causing some issues at the
house of mouse.

But don't get me wrong, I don't think I'll ever be tired of superhero stuff, if
my random comic collection is any indicator, I'll never be done with the
superhero genre. Across the Spiderverse (which went managed to go full
inclusivity, but wasn't shitty, because you cared about the characters), and
the newest TMNT were both amazing! They can milk a genre for as much as they
want, as long as they take risks and hire good writers, I'll never be tired.

With the exception of Andor (amazing compared to other just about anything else
Star Wars related last year), Star Wars needs help. Dave Filony (sp?) was hired
as CCO for Star Wars stuff at Disney. He won't have his hand on everything, but
at least he can pull the plug if shit goes off the rails. Gotta get Katherine
(I think that's her) out of the drivers seat. That b-word knows nothing about
making movies.

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