On 2023-01-28, Arelor <PALANT!Arelor@vert.synchro.net> wrote:
>
> Re: How far I've come...
> By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Thu Jan 26 2023 08:47 pm
>
> > I don't think we're at the point where china makes cheap junk.
>
> Pretty much this.
>
> China used to be the laughting stock of the world, selling cheap junk which was
> good for barely anything. They aren't anymore.
>
> So many foreigner countries helped the Chinesse build their industry to produce
> merchandise up to European and American standards that at some point they
> realized they could use that infrastructure and experience to produce it
> themselves. If an European clock manufacturer funds a clock factory in china,
> and sends an European foreman to oversee the production of watches, you will
> find that factory produces watches under a Chinesse brand when the foreman is
> not looking, using European standards and the toolchains the Europeans bought
> for them. It happens in Morocco all the time too.
>
> A contruction engineer I know used to warn us in the early 2010s. "Chinesse
> construction steel is no longer total junk. They are starting to show up with
> quality stuff."
>
>
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Japan was like that in the 60-70's. Cheap copies everywhere, and in the 80's
they managed to surpass the West in a lot of places.

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Re: Re: How far I've come...
By: anthk to All on Thu Jul 06 2023 08:59 am

> On 2023-01-28, Arelor <PALANT!Arelor@vert.synchro.net> wrote:
> >
> > Re: How far I've come...
> > By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Thu Jan 26 2023 08:47 pm
> >
> > > I don't think we're at the point where china makes cheap junk.
> >
> > Pretty much this.
> >
> > China used to be the laughting stock of the world, selling cheap junk whic
> > good for barely anything. They aren't anymore.
> >
> > So many foreigner countries helped the Chinesse build their industry to pr
> > merchandise up to European and American standards that at some point they
> > realized they could use that infrastructure and experience to produce it
> > themselves. If an European clock manufacturer funds a clock factory in chi
> > and sends an European foreman to oversee the production of watches, you wi
> > find that factory produces watches under a Chinesse brand when the foreman
> > not looking, using European standards and the toolchains the Europeans bou
> > for them. It happens in Morocco all the time too.
> >
> > A contruction engineer I know used to warn us in the early 2010s. "Chiness
> > construction steel is no longer total junk. They are starting to show up w
> > quality stuff."
> >
> >
> > --
> > gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken
> >
> > ---
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> Japan was like that in the 60-70's. Cheap copies everywhere, and in the 80's
> they managed to surpass the West in a lot of places.
>
The Japanese mindset towards product development ran off a different schedule
than Western mindset regarding time tables. A product may have been rejected
in the US because it would 5 years to go from concept to finished project. A
Japanese company would be thinking about longer term profitability and think
5 years not being that long to wait.

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