Re: Linux on old laptop
By: Utopian Galt to All on Sun Nov 07 2021 07:08 pm

> I finally converted my old i5-2410 to Lubuntu 20. I was tired of waiting
> over 5 minutes for my windows 10 laptop to boot up and at least the pc
> will have another 5 years of life that I could use for email or web
> browsing or even telneting to bbses. I thought this would be better for
> the plannet than to buy another laptop right now.

I know this is over 6 months since you posted, but I just want to echo how incredible it is to extend old hardware in this way. I used elementaryOS, a Linux flavor known for its simplicity and out-of-box resemblance to macOS, and it revived a circa 2008 MacBook Pro that I am using for this very use case: browsing the web, checking email, and telnetting into BBS'es. Strongly recommend it.
-=- Kaelon -=-

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Re: Linux on old laptop
By: Kaelon to Utopian Galt on Sun May 01 2022 02:07 pm

> Re: Linux on old laptop
Not Linux, but I use OpenBSD under an old Atom N270 netbook
with:

- cwm
- tmux
- mpv+yt-dlp
- sfeed
- nsxiv cli tools
- mednafen/nethack/slashem/nfrotz
- catgirl
- bitlbee and
- lynx/links.

For cursed JS sites I use luakit.
Specs:

\- -/ os OpenBSD 7.1
\_/ \ host 0493200000001C00000300000
| O O | uptime 9h 47m
|_ < ) 3 ) pkgs 441
/ \ / memory 615M / 1015M
/-_____-\

Most resources are being used by Links -g rendering a huge page
but fast as hell.
With the previous OSes (XP or 7 starter), the netbook would be a
doorstopper.

-- Unix junkie --

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Re: Linux on old laptop
By: anthk to Kaelon on Mon Aug 01 2022 12:51 pm

> Re: Linux on old laptop
> By: Kaelon to Utopian Galt on Sun May 01 2022 02:07 pm
>
> > Re: Linux on old laptop
> Not Linux, but I use OpenBSD under an old Atom N270 netbook
> with:
>
> - cwm
> - tmux
> - mpv+yt-dlp
> - sfeed
> - nsxiv cli tools
> - mednafen/nethack/slashem/nfrotz
> - catgirl
> - bitlbee and
> - lynx/links.
>
> For cursed JS sites I use luakit.
> Specs:
>
> \- -/ os OpenBSD 7.1
> \_/ \ host 0493200000001C00000300000
> | O O | uptime 9h 47m
> |_ < ) 3 ) pkgs 441
> / \ / memory 615M / 1015M
> /-_____-\
>
>
> Most resources are being used by Links -g rendering a huge page
> but fast as hell.
> With the previous OSes (XP or 7 starter), the netbook would be a
> doorstopper.
>
> -- Unix junkie --
>
Pretty awesome setup. Never heard or seen OpenBSD on an Atom!
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I finally converted my old i5-2410 to Lubuntu 20. I was tired of waiting
over 5 minutes for my windows 10 laptop to boot up and at least the pc
will have another 5 years of life that I could use for email or web
browsing or even telneting to bbses. I thought this would be better for
the plannet than to buy another laptop right now.

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Re: Linux on old laptop
By: Utopian Galt to All on Sun Nov 07 2021 07:08 pm

> I finally converted my old i5-2410 to Lubuntu 20. I was tired of waiting
> over 5 minutes for my windows 10 laptop to boot up and at least the pc
> will have another 5 years of life that I could use for email or web
> browsing or even telneting to bbses. I thought this would be better for
> the plannet than to buy another laptop right now.

just run windows 10 or windows 7.

by the way, get a ssd and your load time will be very fast.
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Re: Linux on old laptop
By: Utopian Galt to All on Sun Nov 07 2021 11:08 am

> I finally converted my old i5-2410 to Lubuntu 20. I was tired of waiting
> over 5 minutes for my windows 10 laptop to boot up and at least the pc
> will have another 5 years of life that I could use for email or web
> browsing or even telneting to bbses. I thought this would be better for
> the plannet than to buy another laptop right now.

Earlier in 2021 I converted all of my computers from Windows to Linux (Pop!_OS for PCs and Debian for SBCs) and I haven't looked back. I do have a spare SSD in my primary driver that boots Windows 11 as a fallback, but really the only time boot it is monthly to apply updates to Windows.

I think you made a good choice on keeping stuff out of the landfill; however, for what it's worth, I've made a real push during the last 4-5 years to refresh my systems with very power efficient systems for my project, tinkering, and work. Older systems generally consume more electricity, so that's something to keep in mind to potentially offset environmental impact when you do decide to upgrade.

-WitNik

-WitNik

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Re: Linux on old laptop
By: WitNik to Utopian Galt on Sat Dec 25 2021 11:30 am

> I think you made a good choice on keeping stuff out of the landfill; however, for what it's worth, I've made a real push during
> the
> last 4-5 years to refresh my systems with very power efficient systems for my project, tinkering, and work. Older systems
> generally
> consume more electricity, so that's something to keep in mind to potentially offset environmental impact when you do decide to
> upgrade.

That's an excellent point, by the way.

Recently I checked to see how much power was being used by the "media PC" type of devices we were using for watching the boob tube. Once was a decade-old Athlon64 dual-core box with spinning rust in it, with our PS4 being used for Netflix and Prime.

Both utilized >40W constantly when on, with spikes higher than that depending on the workload.

Have replaced the media PC completely and the media-watching stuff from the PS4 with a Raspberry Pi 4, which consumes about 6W when working hard, and I'm not sure how much when idle - the kill-a-watt meter reads 0 or 1 watt, most of the time on 0.

The guts of the media PC box are going to head off to recycling.

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On 12/25/21 12:30, WitNik wrote:
>
> Earlier in 2021 I converted all of my computers from Windows to Linux
> (Pop!_OS for PCs and Debian for SBCs) and I haven't looked back. I do
> have a spare SSD in my primary driver that boots Windows 11 as a
> fallback, but really the only time boot it is monthly to apply updates
> to Windows.

Similar here, though I did put a windows drive in for a work project,
the work laptop (macbook pro i9) has some issues running the main work
solution (.Net with around 120 projects) and the i9 mac is constantly at
the thermal limit (max fans)... so the clean drive in windows only for
work stuff is better. Other than that, all linux or macos (got an m1
laptop a few months ago).

> I think you made a good choice on keeping stuff out of the landfill;
> however, for what it's worth, I've made a real push during the last
> 4-5 years to refresh my systems with very power efficient systems for
> my project, tinkering, and work. Older systems generally consume more
> electricity, so that's something to keep in mind to potentially offset
> environmental impact when you do decide to upgrade.

I'm a bit spoiled, but usually buy around the upper mid-range, so even
if I only get a couple years of use (2-3) I pass it on, and usually sees
6+ additional years out of it... my old i7-4790k is still running at a
friend's place.

Main desktop is an r9-5950x w/ 128gb ram and rtf-3080... I can't see
myself needing/wanting to upgrade any time soon... only a handful of
things even come close to pushing it. Video projects still feel
sluggish at times for encoding. the prior mentioned work project hits a
bit at the build too, a few minutes for a build (~80s for rebuild), and
running the background service (containerized) and the vs debugger on
the app(s) uses around 72gb ram. The i9 mbp was taking nearly 40m for
build/rebuild.

Fortunately when I get back after the holiday will be working more on
micro-service migrations, so far less issues with the monolith.

Aside: I'm honestly amazed how well the m1 macbook runs things... and
the battery life is just awesome as hell, generally go a few days of
casual use without needing to plug in. I do have wireguard/ssh setup so
I can access my desktop if/when I need more oomph, but haven't needed to
much.
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Re: Linux on old laptop
By: Trikester to WitNik on Sun Dec 26 2021 04:15 pm

> Re: Linux on old laptop
> By: WitNik to Utopian Galt on Sat Dec 25 2021 11:30 am
>
> > I think you made a good choice on keeping stuff out of the landfill; howe
> > the
> > last 4-5 years to refresh my systems with very power efficient systems fo
> > generally
> > consume more electricity, so that's something to keep in mind to potentia
> > upgrade.
>
> That's an excellent point, by the way.
>
> Recently I checked to see how much power was being used by the "media PC" ty
>
> Both utilized >40W constantly when on, with spikes higher than that dependin
>
> Have replaced the media PC completely and the media-watching stuff from the
>
> The guts of the media PC box are going to head off to recycling.
>
Back in the early 2000's I had plans of turning an old laptop into a media
and GPS device for my truck. After all the owrk it would've taken to wire it
in and make sure it got safe regulated voltage, I could've bought a GPS and
MP3 player

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