Hi Gamgee,

> For you Linux users... what's your pick - screen or tmux, and why?

I'm using screen, just because that's the command I learned first and it works
just fine for the purposes I need it, which are mostly "keep a session open
even if I get disconnected from my SSH session" and "use a single SSH session
but run multiple shell commands in parallel".
And I got used to the basic Ctrl-A key commands :)

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> For you Linux users... what's your pick - screen or tmux, and why?

ac> I'm using screen, just because that's the command I learned first
ac> and it works just fine for the purposes I need it, which are
ac> mostly "keep a session open even if I get disconnected from my
ac> SSH session" and "use a single SSH session but run multiple shell
ac> commands in parallel".

Yeah, same here. Take a look at tmux if you get bored, it has some
pretty cool features that go a little beyond screen. I still mostly use
screen too, but will likely move to tmux eventually.

ac> And I got used to the basic Ctrl-A key commands :)

Yep. Tmux uses Ctrl-B as it's prefix by default, which is extremely
awkward, but thankfully it's easily configured to Ctrl-A. ;-)

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Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
By: Gamgee to acn on Fri Apr 30 2021 07:46 am

> Yep. Tmux uses Ctrl-B as it's prefix by default, which is extremely
> awkward, but thankfully it's easily configured to Ctrl-A. ;-)

Yeah, Ctrl-B doesn't work for me (being a vi/vim user) - so it's the first thing I change when using tmux (which admittedly, isn't all that often).
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> Yep. Tmux uses Ctrl-B as it's prefix by default, which is extremely
> awkward, but thankfully it's easily configured to Ctrl-A. ;-)

DM> Yeah, Ctrl-B doesn't work for me (being a vi/vim user) - so it's
DM> the first thing I change when using tmux (which admittedly, isn't
DM> all that often).

Hard to believe that *anyone* would actually prefer Ctrl-B... :-)

You probably already know this, but you can "permanently" define your
desired prefix key in a config file (Linux "dotfile") called .tmux.conf

My very simple config looks like this:

# remap prefix from 'C-b' to 'C-a'
unbind C-b
set-option -g prefix C-a
bind-key C-a send-prefix

# split panes using | and -
bind | split-window -h
bind - split-window -v
unbind '"'
unbind %

# switch panes using Alt-arrow without prefix
bind -n M-Left select-pane -L
bind -n M-Right select-pane -R
bind -n M-Up select-pane -U
bind -n M-Down select-pane -D

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Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
By: Digital Man to Gamgee on Fri Apr 30 2021 04:57 pm

DM> Yeah, Ctrl-B doesn't work for me (being a vi/vim user) - so it's the first thing I change when using tmux (which admittedly, isn't
DM> all that often).

What does Ctrl-B do in vi?

(Learning something new about vi every day, and I've only been using it since forever..)

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Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
By: deon to Digital Man on Sun May 02 2021 09:48 am

> Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
> By: Digital Man to Gamgee on Fri Apr 30 2021 04:57 pm
>
> DM> Yeah, Ctrl-B doesn't work for me (being a vi/vim user) - so it's the
> DM> first thing I change when using tmux (which admittedly, isn't
> DM> all that often).
>
> What does Ctrl-B do in vi?

Scrolls backward (Ctrl-F for forward).

> (Learning something new about vi every day, and I've only been using it
> since forever..)

Oh, I know there's plenty about vi/vim I still don't know.

One thing my fingers learned long ago though: Ctrl-[ (to exit edit mode) is quicker than reaching for the ESC key.
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Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
By: Digital Man to deon on Sat May 01 2021 05:47 pm

>> What does Ctrl-B do in vi?
DM> Scrolls backward (Ctrl-F for forward).

Ahh, ofcourse - I have used it sometimes but not that often.

DM> One thing my fingers learned long ago though: Ctrl-[ (to exit edit mode) is quicker than reaching for the ESC key.

So I dont use either of those - I'm a :wq! or :q! exit guy !

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Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
By: deon to Digital Man on Sun May 02 2021 13:08:42

DM>> One thing my fingers learned long ago though: Ctrl-[ (to exit edit
DM>> mode) is quicker than reaching for the ESC key.

de> So I dont use either of those - I'm a :wq! or :q! exit guy !

You still have to "ESC" before you can :x if you're in edit/insert mode. That's what the ctrl-[ is helpful for.. Interesingly enough, my ESC key is broken, so other than using an on-screen keyboard, I've had to figure this out lately... ;-)

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Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
By: BoonDock to deon on Sun May 02 2021 12:30 am

Howdy,

Bo> You still have to "ESC" before you can :x if you're in edit/insert mode. That's what the ctrl-[ is helpful for.. Interesingly enough,
Bo> my ESC key is broken, so other than using an on-screen keyboard, I've had to figure this out lately... ;-)

So you do. Its muscle memory for me and I do it without thinking about it.

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Re: Re: Screen or tmux?
By: deon to Digital Man on Sun May 02 2021 01:08 pm

> DM> One thing my fingers learned long ago though: Ctrl-[ (to exit edit mode) is quicker than reaching for the ESC key.
>
> So I dont use either of those - I'm a :wq! or :q! exit guy !

How do you exit edit mode?
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