Ka> This is certainly the hope, but I think we've seen signs that Eastern
Ka> European countries, but especially Hungary, and even potentially Poland
Ka> (with its Law and Justice party), are being pushed out of the European
Ka> mainstream given that their behavior is rightly judged as
Ka> anti-democratic. Remember that Austria, Romania, and Bulgaria all had

Poland is not authoritharian but ruled by conservatives who live more with American sentiment about how country should be organized in several fundamental aspects, which of course in socialistic EU, so driven by WOKE, it is a problem.

Another problem with Poland and EU is that the current gov wakes up the sentiment about Poland being HQ of Central Europe driven alliances, not Germany. Three-Seas Alliance from Baltics to Greece is part of that program that can create European Union within European Union that is big enough to counter-balance German and French ambitions to have solo role in setting standards.

And if that fails and 3-seas succeeds that alliance is about 250M people with growing domestic markets and being critical in the supply chain between East and West and being alternative factory for US/Western Europe if China rebels so they have economic argument to show German and French Standards a middle finger.

Poland positions itself as interests should be more important than cultural values, Nobody in Poland wants other countries be more like Poland culturally, so nobody should tell Poland what the local culture should be. As long as everybody is only focused on business we don't care but just like nobody should tell Americans if they should have guns at home or not but other Americans.. the biggest mistake EU tries to make is to Germanize Poland's goals and ambitions, instead of partnering up...

That mistake will most likely come out with another EU-exit by 2050 if that counterbalance as internal force to reform EU fails as strategic campaign.

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Re: Re: Russia's Defeat
By: hollowone to Kaelon on Wed Aug 02 2023 06:00 am

> Poland is not authoritharian but ruled by conservatives who live more with A
You know, the problem with the EU is, in my opinion, that it has stopped being
a trade agreement and started being a trans-national government.

It would not be *that* bad if European institutions weren't the place where
National political parties park their failed politicians. Bonus points because
many agencies within the European Union are composed of unelected officers, so
you end up having a bunch of unelected people generating proposals and
directives for EU members, and people tends not to like that.

It is like the reglament of weapons and explosives in Spain. It was not a law
and it was not written by an elected officer. It was written by the military
and now our miners and building demolition squads have to obey the will of somedeep state officer who got never voted by anybody.

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> Another problem with Poland and EU is that the current gov wakes up the sentim
> t about Poland being HQ of Central Europe driven alliances, not Germany. Three
> eas Alliance from Baltics to Greece is part of that program that can create Eu
> pean Union within European Union that is big enough to counter-balance German
> d French ambitions to have solo role in setting standards.

As an American, it is interesting to see someone from Europe discuss the
German and French ambitions. That is also my observation... that it seems
like those two countries in particular want to impose their "way" on the
other countries, and especially those to their east, like Poland and
Hungary.

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