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From: nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS (Nelgin)
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Subject: smtp-auth required?
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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 19:37:45 -0500
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by: Nelgin - Tue, 21 Mar 2023 00:37 UTC

<sysop@endofthelinebbs.com>: host mail.endofthelinebbs.com[192.138.210.158]
said: 554 Mail deliveries from endofthelinebbs.com must use SMTP-AUTH (in
reply to end of DATA command

How can I avoid this particular host from having to do smtp-auth. It's using the endofthelinebbs.com domain but on a different system. I have the ip in the ipfilter_exempt.cfg of course but I'm sure there's something else?
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From: digital.man@VERT (Digital Man)
To: Nelgin
Subject: smtp-auth required?
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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 04:06:19 -0700
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by: Digital Man - Tue, 21 Mar 2023 11:06 UTC

Re: smtp-auth required?
By: Nelgin to All on Tue Mar 21 2023 02:37 am

> <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com>: host mail.endofthelinebbs.com[192.138.210.158]
> said: 554 Mail deliveries from endofthelinebbs.com must use SMTP-AUTH (in
> reply to end of DATA command
>
> How can I avoid this particular host from having to do smtp-auth. It's using
> the endofthelinebbs.com domain but on a different system. I have the ip in
> the ipfilter_exempt.cfg of course but I'm sure there's something else?

That error message is not from the Synchronet mail server.

ipfilter_exempt.cfg is not used to enable relay agents, but since the quoted error message isn't from Synchronet in the first place, I suspect you're wanting to set send/relay exemptions on some other mail server?
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From: nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS (Nelgin)
To: Digital Man
Subject: smtp-auth required?
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by: Nelgin - Tue, 21 Mar 2023 12:32 UTC

Re: smtp-auth required?
By: Digital Man to Nelgin on Tue Mar 21 2023 11:06:19

> That error message is not from the Synchronet mail server.

That's odd.

# telnet endofthelinebbs.com 25
Trying 192.138.210.158...
Connected to endofthelinebbs.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 endofthelinebbs.com Synchronet SMTP Server 3.20a-Linux Ready
ehlo pbx.endofthelinebbs.com
250-endofthelinebbs.com
250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN CRAM-MD5
250-SEND
250-SOML
250-SAML
250-8BITMIME
250-STARTTLS
250-SIZE 20971520
250 OK
mail from: <pbx@endofthelinebbs.com>
250 OK
rcpt to: <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com>
250 OK
data
354 send the mail data, end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
Testing
..
554 Mail deliveries from endofthelinebbs.com must use SMTP-AUTH

If I telnet to my BBS and try to deliver directly, I get the message. I don't know where else it could be coming from?
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From: nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS (Nelgin)
To: Digital Man
Subject: smtp-auth required?
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by: Nelgin - Tue, 21 Mar 2023 12:34 UTC

Re: smtp-auth required?
By: Digital Man to Nelgin on Tue Mar 21 2023 11:06:19

> That error message is not from the Synchronet mail server.

It's from mailauth.js
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From: digital.man@VERT (Digital Man)
To: Nelgin
Subject: smtp-auth required?
Message-ID: <641A0E94.49658.sync@vert.synchro.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 06:07:48 -0700
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by: Digital Man - Tue, 21 Mar 2023 13:07 UTC

Re: smtp-auth required?
By: Nelgin to Digital Man on Tue Mar 21 2023 02:34 pm

> Re: smtp-auth required?
> By: Digital Man to Nelgin on Tue Mar 21 2023 11:06:19
>
> > That error message is not from the Synchronet mail server.
>
> It's from mailauth.js

So disable or reconfigure that in your ctrl/mailproc.ini
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Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #51:
MODEM = Modulator/Demodulator
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To: Digital Man
Subject: smtp-auth required?
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by: Nelgin - Tue, 21 Mar 2023 13:38 UTC

Re: smtp-auth required?
By: Digital Man to Nelgin on Tue Mar 21 2023 13:07:48

> So disable or reconfigure that in your ctrl/mailproc.ini

How would I change procmail.ini to allow pbx@endofthelinebbs.com send mail without requiring smtp-auth but everything else should?
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From: digital.man@VERT (Digital Man)
To: Nelgin
Subject: smtp-auth required?
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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 08:08:09 -0700
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by: Digital Man - Tue, 21 Mar 2023 15:08 UTC

Re: smtp-auth required?
By: Nelgin to Digital Man on Tue Mar 21 2023 03:38 pm

> Re: smtp-auth required?
> By: Digital Man to Nelgin on Tue Mar 21 2023 13:07:48
>
> > So disable or reconfigure that in your ctrl/mailproc.ini
>
> How would I change procmail.ini to allow pbx@endofthelinebbs.com send mail
> without requiring smtp-auth but everything else should?

Or you could do it by hostname, e.g.
[MailAuth]
Command=mailauth.js
AccessRequirements=(user equal 0 or guest) and host not *.blackberry.com and host not cvs.synchro.net
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CVS = Concurrent Versioning System
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From: nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS (Nelgin)
To: Digital Man
Subject: smtp-auth required?
Message-ID: <641A6135.45025.dove-syncdisc@endofthelinebbs.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 14:00:21 -0500
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by: Nelgin - Tue, 21 Mar 2023 19:00 UTC

Re: smtp-auth required?
By: Digital Man to Nelgin on Tue Mar 21 2023 15:08:09

> [MailAuth]
> Command=mailauth.js
> AccessRequirements=(user equal 0 or guest) and host not
> *.blackberry.com and host not cvs.synchro.net

Thanks, that's useful. Some more examples would be nice on the wiki. mailauth.js just has a "fixme" page.
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From: digital.man@VERT (Digital Man)
To: Nelgin
Subject: smtp-auth required?
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by: Digital Man - Tue, 21 Mar 2023 21:05 UTC

Re: smtp-auth required?
By: Nelgin to Digital Man on Tue Mar 21 2023 09:00 pm

> Re: smtp-auth required?
> By: Digital Man to Nelgin on Tue Mar 21 2023 15:08:09
>
> > [MailAuth]
> > Command=mailauth.js
> > AccessRequirements=(user equal 0 or guest) and host not
> > *.blackberry.com and host not cvs.synchro.net
>
> Thanks, that's useful. Some more examples would be nice on the wiki.
> mailauth.js just has a "fixme" page.

Yup. There are already a lot of example of AccessRequirements at http://wiki.synchro.net/access:requirements, but not a lot that demonstrate the use of the "host" keyword.
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This Is Spinal Tap quote #7:
Nigel Tufnel: That's just nitpicking, isn't it?
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smtp-auth required?	Nelgin
smtp-auth required?	Digital Man
smtp-auth required?	Nelgin
smtp-auth required?	Nelgin
smtp-auth required?	Digital Man
smtp-auth required?	Nelgin
smtp-auth required?	Digital Man
smtp-auth required?	Nelgin
smtp-auth required?	Digital Man