Ga> Ar> That is because you cheat and run Slackware.
Ga>
Ga> 'Tis true. But, I wouldn't call it "cheating". ;-)

Interesting - I haven't messed with Slackware since it was one of my first distros way back in the day. I've been on the Debian (and deb derivative) train for a long time now for all my servers, with arch for my personal desktops. How is the slack experience nowadays? Run into any compatibility issues? How hard is it to get support for newer software?

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Ga> Ar> That is because you cheat and run Slackware.

Ga> 'Tis true. But, I wouldn't call it "cheating". ;-)

es> Interesting - I haven't messed with Slackware since it was one of
es> my first distros way back in the day. I've been on the Debian
es> (and deb derivative) train for a long time now for all my
es> servers, with arch for my personal desktops. How is the slack
es> experience nowadays? Run into any compatibility issues? How hard
es> is it to get support for newer software?

I've used Slack as my daily driver for 20+ years. Today's version
(15.0) is a modern and updated Linux distro. I use the XFCE desktop,
but it comes with KDE and some other minimalist DE's also. Have not had
any compatibility issues. For software which is not included with the
stock install, the main source is called "Slackbuilds", located at
https://slackbuilds.org . That system gives you links to a software's
source code, and a build script (a Slackbuild), which you then just run
to create an installable package; and then you install that package.
Very simple and most all of it is the latest versions available.

I've played with a LOT of other distros over the years, and still do,
but my main stuff all runs on Slackware. Can't really imagine using
anything else, honestly.

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Re: Re: Skype video calling
By: Gamgee to esc on Fri Dec 23 2022 07:33 am

> I've used Slack as my daily driver for 20+ years. Today's version
> (15.0) is a modern and updated Linux distro. I use the XFCE desktop,
> but it comes with KDE and some other minimalist DE's also. Have not had
> any compatibility issues. For software which is not included with the
> stock install, the main source is called "Slackbuilds", located at
> https://slackbuilds.org . That system gives you links to a software's
> source code, and a build script (a Slackbuild), which you then just run
> to create an installable package; and then you install that package.
> Very simple and most all of it is the latest versions available.
>
> I've played with a LOT of other distros over the years, and still do,
> but my main stuff all runs on Slackware. Can't really imagine using
> anything else, honestly.
>
What is it about Slackware that draws you to it? I was interested in it a while back, and installed a copy in a Virtual Machine. But I only really just booted it, played with some apps for 10 minutes then didn't look into it further.

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Bo> Re: Re: Skype video calling
Bo> By: Gamgee to esc on Fri Dec 23 2022 07:33 am

> I've used Slack as my daily driver for 20+ years. Today's version
> (15.0) is a modern and updated Linux distro. I use the XFCE desktop,
> but it comes with KDE and some other minimalist DE's also. Have not had
> any compatibility issues. For software which is not included with the
> stock install, the main source is called "Slackbuilds", located at
> https://slackbuilds.org . That system gives you links to a software's
> source code, and a build script (a Slackbuild), which you then just run
> to create an installable package; and then you install that package.
> Very simple and most all of it is the latest versions available.
>
> I've played with a LOT of other distros over the years, and still do,
> but my main stuff all runs on Slackware. Can't really imagine using
> anything else, honestly.

Bo> What is it about Slackware that draws you to it? I was
Bo> interested in it a while back, and installed a copy in a Virtual
Bo> Machine. But I only really just booted it, played with some apps
Bo> for 10 minutes then didn't look into it further.

Partly because I'm so used to it, and understand how it works pretty
well. It's very stable. I like how it uses "true" versions of software
from upstream, not "Modified for <distro-name> version". It gives me
good control of the underlying system, and allows me to know exactly
what's starting/running (no systemd).

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Re: Re: Skype video calling
By: esc to Gamgee on Thu Dec 22 2022 08:54 pm

> Ga> Ar> That is because you cheat and run Slackware.
> Ga>
> Ga> 'Tis true. But, I wouldn't call it "cheating". ;-)
>
> Interesting - I haven't messed with Slackware since it was one of my first d
> nce nowadays? Run into any compatibility issues? How hard is it to get suppo
>
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Modern Slackware is a breeze to run if you have moderate Linux experience. You
can add as many 3rd party packages as you want via the SlackBuilds website. If
you want it automated, you can have a ports-like experience using a number of
3rd party packaging frameworks which are very easy to use.

The main downside Slackware has is that its release engineering is piss poor.
THat is the chief reason why I migrated most of my old Slackwares to OpenBSD.

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Re: Re: Skype video calling
By: Boraxman to Gamgee on Sat Dec 24 2022 11:45 pm

> What is it about Slackware that draws you to it? I was interested in it a w

I can't talk about Gamgee's, but for me, Slackware has two big strengths:

1 - The base system is very consistent and more free from bugs than average.

2 - Slackware can be used in conjunction with ports-like package managers,
which is great if you want to use weird software. In a typical binary
distribution such as Debian, you are mostly limited to what is available in
your repositories. If you want a newer or older version of something in the
repositories, you either get a binary package from a different branch of the
distribution you are using (risking breakage due to library incompatibilities),
manually compile and install without a package manager (which conflicts with
the package manager and causes a mess of the system or create your own package
manually (which is time consuming as heck). With something like SlackBuilds,
you get the source code, hack the SlackBUild scrpt of a similar program, run it
and you are done. Your copy of the package will be built against your installed
libraries, freeing you from most issues.

Another core strengths most SLackware fans are fond of:

* Base components have no customization or barely any, so general documentation
for a package is guaranteed to apply to Slackware (as opposed to distributions
that patch their packages in such a way that they don't work as upstream claims
they work).

* No package manager breakage, because the package manager is too simple to
break.

THe biggest drawback is that release engineering just plain sucks.

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Re: Re: Skype video calling
By: Arelor to esc on Wed Dec 28 2022 02:11 pm

> Re: Re: Skype video calling
> By: esc to Gamgee on Thu Dec 22 2022 08:54 pm
>
> > Ga> Ar> That is because you cheat and run Slackware.
>
> > Ga> 'Tis true. But, I wouldn't call it "cheating". ;-)
>
> > Interesting - I haven't messed with Slackware since it was one of my
> > first d nce nowadays? Run into any compatibility issues? How hard is it
> > to get suppo
>
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>
> Modern Slackware is a breeze to run if you have moderate Linux experience.
> You can add as many 3rd party packages as you want via the SlackBuilds
> website. If you want it automated, you can have a ports-like experience
> using a number of 3rd party packaging frameworks which are very easy to use.
>
> The main downside Slackware has is that its release engineering is piss
> poor. THat is the chief reason why I migrated most of my old Slackwares to
> OpenBSD.

boy i havent used slackware in years but i just tried it out in a vm and damn it's so polished now.

i used to get my linux cds in the mid 90s and try out stuff that way.

now someone's grandma can install and run linux.
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Re: Re: Skype video calling
By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Dec 28 2022 07:49 pm

> i used to get my linux cds in the mid 90s and try out stuff that way.

In the 2010s I was the last guy in Spain ordering Linux DVDs via mail because I
had no Internet connection for downloading them, and no friend to download a
DVD for me. At least, it feels like I was the last guy, because everybody else
had an ISP subscription.

Nowadays I have lots of DVDs from Linux Magazine XD

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Re: Re: Skype video calling
By: Arelor to MRO on Thu Dec 29 2022 04:50 am

>> i used to get my linux cds in the mid 90s and try out stuff that way.

Ar> In the 2010s I was the last guy in Spain ordering Linux DVDs via mail
Ar> because I had no Internet connection for downloading them, and no friend

I just purchased an Lubuntu CD last year. My thinkin was if all my shit blewup I still had a portable CD/DVD drive and a CD/DVD with an OS. Now days you can run a CD live. So... Go ahead and blowup! Make my day. I'm ready. LOL!

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Re: Re: Skype video calling
By: HusTler to Arelor on Wed Jan 11 2023 03:21 pm

> Re: Re: Skype video calling
> By: Arelor to MRO on Thu Dec 29 2022 04:50 am
>
> >> i used to get my linux cds in the mid 90s and try out stuff that way.
>
> Ar> In the 2010s I was the last guy in Spain ordering Linux DVDs via mail
> Ar> because I had no Internet connection for downloading them, and no
> Ar> friend
>
> I just purchased an Lubuntu CD last year. My thinkin was if all my shit
> blewup I still had a portable CD/DVD drive and a CD/DVD with an OS. Now days
> you can run a CD live. So... Go ahead and blowup! Make my day. I'm ready.

just get an android tv device from amazon. my computer blew up and i used one of those for my main computer until my new computer came in.
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