Hello fast question I hope.

I have a lady that loves Gutter Bowl 3.0 so I started a server that
I rlogin to and the door runs great on windows sbbs system.

But when a dummy user goes to login it states something like you don't
have the required access to this system.

Any ideas?

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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Havok to All on Mon Mar 13 2023 09:14 pm

> Hello fast question I hope.
>
> I have a lady that loves Gutter Bowl 3.0 so I started a server that
> I rlogin to and the door runs great on windows sbbs system.
>
> But when a dummy user goes to login it states something like you don't
> have the required access to this system.
>
> Any ideas?

What is a dummy user?

Do you have server log output you can share that corresponds with this problem?
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It sounds like the dummy user may not have the proper access levels set. Have you checked the configuration settings for your Synchronet BBS to make sure that the user is allowed to access the Gutter Bowl door game? You may need to adjust the user's access level or security settings to allow them to play the game. Additionally, you may want to check the logs to see if there are any error messages that could give you a clue as to what the issue might be.

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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Digital Man to Havok on Tue Mar 14 2023 08:16 am

DM> What is a dummy user?

A fake user I made to try the setup.

DM> Do you have server log output you can share that corresponds with this
DM> problem? --
@ 12:38p Tue Mar 14 2023 Node 2
@+ Telnet <no name> [192.168.0.249]
++ (0072) Wraith Logon 290 - 6
X- running external program: Oneliners
X- running external program: Door Scan
X
@- 01:03p T: 24 R: 0 P: 0 E: 0 F: 0 U: 0k 0 D: 0k 0

@ 01:11p Tue Mar 14 2023 Node 2
@+ Telnet <no name> [192.168.0.249]
++ (0072) Wraith Logon 291 - 7
X- running external program: Oneliners
X- running external program: Door Scan
X,/O
@- 01:14p T: 3 R: 0 P: 0 E: 0 F: 0 U: 0k 0 D: 0k 0

@ 01:29p Tue Mar 14 2023 Node 2
@+ Telnet <no name> [192.168.0.249]
++ (0072) Wraith Logon 292 - 8
X- running external program: Oneliners
X- running external program: Door Scan
X,X,/O
@- 02:00p T: 31 R: 0 P: 0 E: 0 F: 0 U: 0k 0 D: 0k 0

The error it throws is: Sorry, you have insufficient access to run that program.

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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Havok to Digital Man on Tue Mar 14 2023 03:41 pm

> Re: Rlogin question & door server
> By: Digital Man to Havok on Tue Mar 14 2023 08:16 am
>
> DM> What is a dummy user?
>
> A fake user I made to try the setup.
>
> DM> Do you have server log output you can share that corresponds with this
> DM> problem? --
> @ 12:38p Tue Mar 14 2023 Node 2
> @+ Telnet <no name> [192.168.0.249]
> ++ (0072) Wraith Logon 290 - 6
> X- running external program: Oneliners
> X- running external program: Door Scan
> X
> @- 01:03p T: 24 R: 0 P: 0 E: 0 F: 0 U: 0k 0 D: 0k 0
>
> @ 01:11p Tue Mar 14 2023 Node 2
> @+ Telnet <no name> [192.168.0.249]
> ++ (0072) Wraith Logon 291 - 7
> X- running external program: Oneliners
> X- running external program: Door Scan
> X,/O
> @- 01:14p T: 3 R: 0 P: 0 E: 0 F: 0 U: 0k 0 D: 0k 0
>
> @ 01:29p Tue Mar 14 2023 Node 2
> @+ Telnet <no name> [192.168.0.249]
> ++ (0072) Wraith Logon 292 - 8
> X- running external program: Oneliners
> X- running external program: Door Scan
> X,X,/O
> @- 02:00p T: 31 R: 0 P: 0 E: 0 F: 0 U: 0k 0 D: 0k 0

I was referring to the terminal server log output (e.g. the "Terminal Server" window in SBBSCTRL for Windows or the syslog/journal "sbbs: term" output on *nix).

> The error it throws is: Sorry, you have insufficient access to run that
> program.

Check the access and execution requirements you have configured for that door in SCFG->External Programs...
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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Digital Man to Havok on Tue Mar 14 2023 08:16 am

DM> Do you have server log output you can share that corresponds with this
DM> problem?
The only thing in the logs it shows for the fake user is running external
door scan. and it still shows: Sorry, you have insufficient access to run that
program.

I don't have anything set values the same as in:

Name Prisoner's Door Game Server ║
░░░░║ │Tim║ │Internal Code PRISONER ║
░░░░║ │Nat║ │Start-up Directory ║
░░░░╔═════║ │Command Line *rlogin gapbbs.rdfig.net:3030║ ║░░░░
░░░░║ ║ │Clean-up Command Line ║ ║░░░░
░░░░╠═════║ │Execution Cost None ║ ║░░░░
░░░░║ │Syn║ │Access Requirements ANSI ║ ║░░░░
░░░░║ │Sys║ │Execution Requirements ║═════╝░░░░
░░░░║ │Sys║ │Multiple Concurrent Users Yes ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │RPG║ │I/O Method FOSSIL or UART ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │RPG║ │Native Executable/Script No ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │Cas║ │Use Shell or New Context No ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │Mis║ │Modify User Data No ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │Mis║ │Execute on Event No ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │Spa║ │Pause After Execution No ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │Doo║ │BBS Drop File Type None ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │Int║ │Place Drop File In Node Directory ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │Oth║ │Time Options... ║

And mine:
══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╣═════╣░░░░
░░░░║ │Fix║ │Name Anarchy BBS Game Server ║
░░░░║ │Tim║ │Internal Code GAMESERV ║
░░░░║ │Nat║ │Start-up Directory ║
░░░░╔═════║ │Command Line *Rlogin 192.168.1.90:513 ║ ║░░░░
░░░░║ ║ │Clean-up Command Line ║ ║░░░░
░░░░╠═════║ │Execution Cost None ║ ║░░░░
░░░░║ │Syn║ │Access Requirements ║ ║░░░░
░░░░║ │Sys║ │Execution Requirements ║═════╝░░░░
░░░░║ │Sys║ │Multiple Concurrent Users Yes ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │RPG║ │I/O Method FOSSIL or UART ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │RPG║ │Native Executable/Script No ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │Cas║ │Use Shell or New Context No ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │Mis║ │Modify User Data No ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │Mis║ │Execute on Event No ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │Spa║ │Pause After Execution No ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │Doo║ │BBS Drop File Type None ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │Int║ │Place Drop File In Node Directory ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │Oth║ │Time Options... ║░░░░░░░░░░
░░░░║ │ ╚══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝

And Prisoner's Door Game Server works!

Thanks...


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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Havok to Digital Man on Wed Mar 15 2023 12:52 pm

> Re: Rlogin question & door server
> By: Digital Man to Havok on Tue Mar 14 2023 08:16 am
>
> DM> Do you have server log output you can share that corresponds with this
> DM> problem?
> The only thing in the logs it shows for the fake user is running external
> door scan. and it still shows: Sorry, you have insufficient access to run
> that
> program.
>
> I don't have anything set values the same as in:
>
> Name Prisoner's Door Game Server ║
> ░░░░║ │Tim║ │Internal Code PRISONER ║
> ░░░░║ │Nat║ │Start-up Directory ║
> ░░░░╔═════║ │Command Line *rlogin gapbbs.rdfig.net:3030║
> ║░░░░
> ░░░░║ ║ │Clean-up Command Line ║
> ║░░░░
> ░░░░╠═════║ │Execution Cost None ║
> ║░░░░
> ░░░░║ │Syn║ │Access Requirements ANSI ║

So the access requirements are "ANSI". Does the user have ANSI enabled in their terminal configuration (or was ANSI correctly auto-detected)? If you remove this requirement, does that solve the problem?
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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Havok to Digital Man on Wed Mar 15 2023 12:52 pm

I took ansi out and the first one still works.

Mine I still get Sorry, you have insufficient access to run that program.

[Hit a key]

Now mind you the top one is outside my network on the Internet. Mine is
on my private network one pc talking to the other.

I tried it with synchronet and today I loaded GameSrv for a test and it
acts just the same.

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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Havok to Digital Man on Wed Mar 15 2023 04:28 pm

> Re: Rlogin question & door server
> By: Havok to Digital Man on Wed Mar 15 2023 12:52 pm
>
> I took ansi out and the first one still works.
>
> Mine I still get Sorry, you have insufficient access to run that program.
>
> [Hit a key]
>
> Now mind you the top one is outside my network on the Internet. Mine is
> on my private network one pc talking to the other.
>
> I tried it with synchronet and today I loaded GameSrv for a test and it
> acts just the same.

I'm not clear what you're trying to convey (GameSrv gives the same error message?). In the any case, the error as reported is with the "Access requirements" or "Execution Requirements" to run that particular program as configured by the sysop in SCFG->External Programs.
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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Digital Man to Havok on Wed Mar 15 2023 11:31 am

DM> So the access requirements are "ANSI". Does the user have ANSI enabled in
DM> their terminal configuration (or was ANSI correctly auto-detected)? If you
DM> remove this requirement, does that solve the problem?
Nope, I wish it did!


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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Digital Man to Havok on Wed Mar 15 2023 04:02 pm

DM> I'm not clear what you're trying to convey (GameSrv gives the same error
DM> message?). In the any case, the error as reported is with the "Access

I tried GameSrv to see if it was a problem inside the board or if it
was this bulletin board, But even so both that I showed your are set
the same but with differant results. Other then port:513 amd port:3030

If you would explain how it is suppose to work when they do connect.

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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Greg Youngblood to Digital Man on Wed Mar 15 2023 07:46 pm

> Re: Rlogin question & door server
> By: Digital Man to Havok on Wed Mar 15 2023 04:02 pm
>
> DM> I'm not clear what you're trying to convey (GameSrv gives the same
> DM> error message?). In the any case, the error as reported is with the
> DM> "Access
>
> I tried GameSrv to see if it was a problem inside the board or if it
> was this bulletin board, But even so both that I showed your are set
> the same but with differant results. Other then port:513 amd port:3030

I don't understand. If you're using GameSrv to serve up the same games, how would it be generating the same error messge about no acces? That makes no sense.

> If you would explain how it is suppose to work when they do connect.

What do you mean - when someone connects to GameSrv? I have no idea, I didn't
write GameSrv and I don't know how it works, but it's a game server, not a Synchronet BBS that would be using SCFG access control to external programs and display the error message you reported.

The error message you reported is coming from a Synchronet BBS, not GameSrv, so I don't understand what role GameSrv has here.
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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Havok to Digital Man on Wed Mar 15 2023 07:31 pm

> Re: Rlogin question & door server
> By: Digital Man to Havok on Wed Mar 15 2023 11:31 am
>
> DM> So the access requirements are "ANSI". Does the user have ANSI enabled
> DM> in their terminal configuration (or was ANSI correctly auto-detected)?
> DM> If you remove this requirement, does that solve the problem?
>
> Nope, I wish it did!

If you're using 2 Synchronet BBSes as part of this experiment, one as an RLogin game server, and the other as the RLogin client, then there would be 2 sets of SCFG configurations (and thus, 2 sets of Access Requirements and Execution Requirements for both the external program *section* and the external program itself), that you would need to check/confirm in each BBS's SCFG.

Basically... check your settings on both systems.
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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Digital Man to Greg Youngblood on Wed Mar 15 2023 05:20 pm

I got it I changed, Modify User Data and it worked!

Now to figure out how to bypass the login with Synchronet 3.18 to use as
the game server.

Thanks...
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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Greg Youngblood to Digital Man on Wed Mar 15 2023 19:46:28

GY> I tried GameSrv to see if it was a problem inside the board or if it
GY> was this bulletin board, But even so both that I showed your are set
GY> the same but with differant results. Other then port:513 amd port:3030

So the only change you made to your 'Anarchy BBS Game Server' external program was that this:

Command Line *Rlogin 192.168.1.90:513

became this:

Command Line *Rlogin 192.168.1.90:3030

correct?

And in both cases you see:

"Sorry, you have insufficient access to run that program."

but this does not happen when the same user tries to run the nearly identical "Prisoner's Door Game Server" external program?

You mentioned a 'dummy user'. Are you only experiencing this problem when running as that user, but it works fine for your sysop account, and other accounts on your BBS?

What did you do when setting up this user? Anything that makes them different from anyone else? Restriction flags on the account (such as 'X')?

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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Greg Youngblood to Digital Man on Wed Mar 15 2023 10:30 pm

> Re: Rlogin question & door server
> By: Digital Man to Greg Youngblood on Wed Mar 15 2023 05:20 pm
>
>
> I got it I changed, Modify User Data and it worked!

Got what changed? I don't understand what you're trying to tell me.

> Now to figure out how to bypass the login with Synchronet 3.18 to use as
> the game server.

See http://wiki.synchro.net/module:logon
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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Digital Man to Havok on Wed Mar 15 2023 05:53 pm

DM> Basically... check your settings on both systems.

Will do, thanks for the advise!

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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: echicken to Greg Youngblood on Thu Mar 16 2023 03:25 am

ec> What did you do when setting up this user? Anything that makes them
ec> different from anyone else? Restriction flags on the account (such as
ec> 'X')?

The only thing I changed after a long time looking at the settings
was:Modify User Data to:Yes

To to figure out how to skip the login process.

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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Havok to echicken on Thu Mar 16 2023 08:22 am

> Re: Rlogin question & door server
> By: echicken to Greg Youngblood on Thu Mar 16 2023 03:25 am
>
> ec> What did you do when setting up this user? Anything that makes them
> ec> different from anyone else? Restriction flags on the account (such as
> ec> 'X')?
>
> The only thing I changed after a long time looking at the settings
> was:Modify User Data to:Yes
>
> To to figure out how to skip the login process.

I don't think you want to do that.

If you're talking about the rlogin server, the server needs to enable the rlogin_auto_xtrn option for the logon module, see http://wiki.synchro.net/module:logon for details. And the clien needs to send "xtrn=<doorcode>" as the RLogin 'terminal-type' string during negotiation.
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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Digital Man to Havok on Thu Mar 16 2023 10:52 am

> > The only thing I changed after a long time looking at the settings
> > was:Modify User Data to:Yes
>
> > To to figure out how to skip the login process.
>
> I don't think you want to do that.

To clarify, I don't think you want to set "Modify User Data" to "Yes". That setting is for a very specific class of doors which modify their drop files.
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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: Digital Man to Havok on Thu Mar 16 2023 10:52 am

DM> I don't think you want to do that.

DM> If you're talking about the rlogin server, the server needs to enable the
DM> rlogin_auto_xtrn option for the logon module, see
DM> http://wiki.synchro.net/module:logon for details. And the clien needs to
DM> send "xtrn=<doorcode>" as the RLogin 'terminal-type' string during
DM> negotiation. --

I'll look into it, thanks...
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I had the same kind of issue and did the following

?rlogin myserverip -p -t xtrn=<doorcode>

look at the rlogin command line options here:
http://wiki.synchro.net/module:rlogin

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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: tmcca to Greg Youngblood on Fri Mar 17 2023 08:41 am

tm> look at the rlogin command line options here:
tm> http://wiki.synchro.net/module:rlogin

I was looking at this page the other day, none seemed to change anything
for me though.
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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: tmcca to Greg Youngblood on Fri Mar 17 2023 08:41 am

tm> I had the same kind of issue and did the following

tm> ?rlogin myserverip -p -t xtrn=<doorcode>

Will do!
Question what version of Synchronet are you using for the door server?

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Re: Rlogin question & door server
By: tmcca to Greg Youngblood on Fri Mar 17 2023 08:41 am

> I had the same kind of issue and did the following
>
> ?rlogin myserverip -p -t xtrn=<doorcode>
>
> look at the rlogin command line options here:
> http://wiki.synchro.net/module:rlogin
>
Here is the error I get:

!JavaScript rlogin.js line 17: ReferenceError: p is not defined

When the -p is set!

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