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From: otto.reverse@VERT/BEERS20 (Otto Reverse)
To: Boraxman
Subject: Re: the nothing to hide a
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:08:00 +0000
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by: Otto Reverse - Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:08 UTC

Bo> What perplexes me, is that there are people I know (admittedly few), who
Bo> share these concerns, greatly, but still buy these items. One I know
Bo> will talk about Big Tech censorship, how Google skews its searches and
Bo> manipulates us, but you can "Hey Google" in his house and Google
Bo> responds!
Bo>
Bo> I think in part people arguing that privacy isn't important is a cope.
Bo> They feel powerless, unwilling to fight or make the harder consumer
Bo> choices to maintain freedom, so they just reorganise their values to
Bo> suit the situation pushed upon then.

No doubt. That is probably where the "I have nothing to hide" refrain comes from.

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From: boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS (Boraxman)
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by: Boraxman - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 02:26 UTC

Re: Re: the nothing to hide a
By: Otto Reverse to Boraxman on Wed Feb 16 2022 04:08 pm

> Bo> What perplexes me, is that there are people I know (admittedly few), wh
> Bo> share these concerns, greatly, but still buy these items. One I know
> Bo> will talk about Big Tech censorship, how Google skews its searches and
> Bo> manipulates us, but you can "Hey Google" in his house and Google
> Bo> responds!
>
> Bo> I think in part people arguing that privacy isn't important is a cope.
> Bo> They feel powerless, unwilling to fight or make the harder consumer
> Bo> choices to maintain freedom, so they just reorganise their values to
> Bo> suit the situation pushed upon then.
>
> No doubt. That is probably where the "I have nothing to hide" refrain comes
> from.

Whenever people tell me they aren't fussed with monitoring and spying, I ask
them for their phone, and if I can browse it. If they are saying they have
nothing to hide, then lets prove it.

If they are OK with some anonymous person looking through their data, then
surely someone they know and trust would be OK too.

Never had anyone comfortable with it yet. Good way to demonstrate they are
really full of it.

Reminds me of this story, where there was a debate, and someone who was arguing
against fiat money or something was saying that money was actually worthless.
He put a $50 note on the table arguing it was worth nothing. His debate
opponent then went to take it from here, whereup he quickly snatched it back!

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by: Phigan - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 20:29 UTC

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Subject	Author
Re: the nothing to hide a	Otto Reverse
Re: the nothing to hide a	Boraxman
Re: the nothing to hide a	Phigan