Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sat Mar 11 2023 10:22 am

DW> Honestly, based on the advertising, I am starting to think that most OTA
DW> TV is targeted at people who are at least 40 and/or who are diabetic
DW> and/or overweight. Lots and lost of drug commercials aimed at those
DW> groups, plus anyone with depression.

As far as the TV shows, much of the same TV shows and national channels on OTA TV are also available via cable TV and probably satellite TV, as far as I know.

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sat Mar 11 2023 10:22 am

> > The networks expanded their programming to meet the older early bird and
> > night owl crowd. The early bird news is less likely to be channel surfed
> > which is better for advertisers. You can tell it's targetted towards seni
> > citizens because the major advertisers are Gold Bond Powder, adult
> > diapers, and Geritol
>
> Honestly, based on the advertising, I am starting to think that most OTA TV
> is targeted at people who are at least 40 and/or who are diabetic and/or
> overweight. Lots and lost of drug commercials aimed at those groups, plus
> anyone with depression.
>
>
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I see OTA being more of an over 50 viewing environment, and agree about drug,
insurance companies, andcommercials targetted toward a less active audience.

On cable/ satellite the old Nashville Network turned into a male oriented
Spike network, and commercials for low testosterone and increasing sexual
stamina were common.

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Sun Mar 12 2023 08:42 am

Mo> I see OTA being more of an over 50 viewing environment, and agree about

Do you mean as opposed to cable/satellite, or opposed to streaming services?

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Nightfox to Moondog on Sun Mar 12 2023 05:28 pm

> Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
> By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Sun Mar 12 2023 08:42 am
>
> Mo> I see OTA being more of an over 50 viewing environment, and agree about
>
> Do you mean as opposed to cable/satellite, or opposed to streaming services?
>

As opposed to cable/ satellite. I get the impression that the over 50 crowd
enjoys the older reruns these channels play. I know a few folk who are not
into streaming, nor were into premium cable channels with regards to standard
TV viewing. They get their news from the local channels, and that's it.

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Mon Mar 13 2023 05:17 pm

> Mo>> I see OTA being more of an over 50 viewing environment, and agree
> Mo>> about

>> Do you mean as opposed to cable/satellite, or opposed to streaming
>> services?

Mo> As opposed to cable/ satellite. I get the impression that the over 50
Mo> crowd enjoys the older reruns these channels play.

I thought a lot of the same channels were available both on OTA and cable/satellite. But now that I think about it, at least in my area, there are some OTA channels that play those old TV show reruns and those channels aren't available on cable/satellite. For local channels, I think cable & satellite tend to only carry the major network channels and not the extra ones.

Mo> I know a few folk who
Mo> are not into streaming, nor were into premium cable channels with regards
Mo> to standard TV viewing. They get their news from the local channels, and
Mo> that's it.

I might be one of those people who fall into that category, though it's mostly because I don't really like the idea of spending a bunch of money on the various different streaming services only for a couple shows I want to watch. I don't even have cable or satellite..

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Nightfox to Moondog on Tue Mar 14 2023 08:37 pm

> I might be one of those people who fall into that category, though it's
> mostly because I don't really like the idea of spending a bunch of money on
> the various different streaming services only for a couple shows I want to
> watch.
> I don't even have cable or satellite..

i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Mar 15 2023 02:19 am

>> I might be one of those people who fall into that category, though
>> it's mostly because I don't really like the idea of spending a bunch
>> of money on the various different streaming services only for a couple

MR> i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.

Yep, that works too.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Nightfox to Moondog on Tue Mar 14 2023 08:37 pm

> Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
> By: Moondog to Nightfox on Mon Mar 13 2023 05:17 pm
>
> > Mo>> I see OTA being more of an over 50 viewing environment, and agree
> > Mo>> about
>
> >> Do you mean as opposed to cable/satellite, or opposed to streaming
> >> services?
>
> Mo> As opposed to cable/ satellite. I get the impression that the over 50
> Mo> crowd enjoys the older reruns these channels play.
>
> I thought a lot of the same channels were available both on OTA and cable/sa
> e. For local channels, I think cable & satellite tend to only carry the maj
>
> Mo> I know a few folk who
> Mo> are not into streaming, nor were into premium cable channels with regar
> Mo> to standard TV viewing. They get their news from the local channels, an
> Mo> that's it.
>
> I might be one of those people who fall into that category, though it's most
> or satellite..
>
> Nightfox
>

I've found some of the OTA channels also appear on satellite. MeTV and Heros
and Icons channel appear on Dish. I think Ion and a couple of others are
showing on OTA and pay pltforms

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Mar 15 2023 02:19 am

> Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
> By: Nightfox to Moondog on Tue Mar 14 2023 08:37 pm
>
> > I might be one of those people who fall into that category, though it's
> > mostly because I don't really like the idea of spending a bunch of money
> > the various different streaming services only for a couple shows I want t
> > watch.
> > I don't even have cable or satellite..
>
> i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.
>
If you have good bandwidth, good for you. I live outside of town where there'
s less than 10 houses per mile, and bandwidth is limited.

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Mar 15 2023 07:54 pm

>
> > i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.
>
> If you have good bandwidth, good for you. I live outside of town where
> there' s less than 10 houses per mile, and bandwidth is limited.

see if you can get starlink.

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-=> Quoting Mro to Nightfox <=-

> I might be one of those people who fall into that category, though it's
> mostly because I don't really like the idea of spending a bunch of money on
> the various different streaming services only for a couple shows I want to
> watch.
> I don't even have cable or satellite..

Mr> i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.

So for example, if you wanted to watch Star Trek Enterprise and it
is only available on Paramount pay streaming services, how would you
go about getting it?

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Cougar428 to MRO on Thu Mar 16 2023 07:20 am

Mr>> i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i
Mr>> want.

Co> So for example, if you wanted to watch Star Trek Enterprise and it
Co> is only available on Paramount pay streaming services, how would you
Co> go about getting it?

Many shows (including that one) are also available on blu-ray and/or DVD, so that would be an option. Also, one could download shows like that via BitTorrent if one really wanted to..

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: MRO to Moondog on Thu Mar 16 2023 01:32 am

> Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
> By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Mar 15 2023 07:54 pm
>
> >
> > > i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.
> >
> > If you have good bandwidth, good for you. I live outside of town where
> > there' s less than 10 houses per mile, and bandwidth is limited.
>
> see if you can get starlink.
>
I'm on a wait list. since I've been on they raised the price of the receiver
by $200 and are talking about throttling bandwidth. Too bad Tmobile's 5g at
home isn't available in my area. I've talked to folks that really love it.

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Cougar428 to MRO on Thu Mar 16 2023 07:20 am

>
> > I might be one of those people who fall into that category, though it's
> > mostly because I don't really like the idea of spending a bunch of money
> > on the various different streaming services only for a couple shows I
> > want to watch.
> > I don't even have cable or satellite..
>
> Mr> i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.
>
> So for example, if you wanted to watch Star Trek Enterprise and it
> is only available on Paramount pay streaming services, how would you
> go about getting it?
>

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Mar 16 2023 01:48 pm

>
> I'm on a wait list. since I've been on they raised the price of the
> receiver by $200 and are talking about throttling bandwidth. Too bad
> Tmobile's 5g at home isn't available in my area. I've talked to folks that
> really love it.

i tried to test drive the tmobile 5g and they sent me a 4g thing.
are you the guy that recommended it?
they wont let me try out a 5g unit

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Hello Nightfox!

** On Wednesday 15.03.23 - 09:36, Nightfox wrote to MRO:

MR>> i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.

N> Yep, that works too.

Some full films are available on dailymotion and vivo.
Downling with yt-dlp works great with those too.

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-=> Quoting Nightfox to Cougar428 <=-

Ni> Many shows (including that one) are also available on blu-ray and/or
Ni> DVD, so that would be an option. Also, one could download shows like
Ni> that via BitTorrent if one really wanted to..
Ni> Nightfox

Thanks NF, my preferred way would also be physical media. I just
like to have the item in my hand. Problem is I have so many
packages that I don't have anywhere to store them.

Is BitTorrent trackable/traceable?

Cougar

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-=> Quoting Mro to Cougar428 <=-

> So for example, if you wanted to watch Star Trek Enterprise and it
> is only available on Paramount pay streaming services, how would you
> go about getting it?

Thanks for the snap MRO!

Cougar

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Cougar428 to NIGHTFOX on Sun Mar 19 2023 08:09 am

> Is BitTorrent trackable/traceable?

By default and by design, torrent clients upload while they download. The public IP is visible to every other client downloading/using the torrent.

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Cougar428 to NIGHTFOX on Sun Mar 19 2023 08:09 am

Co> Thanks NF, my preferred way would also be physical media. I just
Co> like to have the item in my hand. Problem is I have so many
Co> packages that I don't have anywhere to store them.

Co> Is BitTorrent trackable/traceable?

Yes, as far as I know it is (that's part of how it works - it has to be able to track who is downloading and seeding the files).

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Cougar428 to NIGHTFOX on Sun Mar 19 2023 08:09 am

> Is BitTorrent trackable/traceable?

Yup. Unless you use a VPN on the machine running bittorrent, you will likely receive a letter from your ISP. Like, a real paper cease & desist. I may have messed up years ago and seen one of those from Comcast. :D

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Lmorchard to Cougar428 on Mon Mar 20 2023 02:00 am

> Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
> By: Cougar428 to NIGHTFOX on Sun Mar 19 2023 08:09 am
>
> > Is BitTorrent trackable/traceable?
>
> Yup. Unless you use a VPN on the machine running bittorrent, you will likely
> receive a letter from your ISP. Like, a real paper cease & desist. I may
> have messed up years ago and seen one of those from Comcast. :D

there's bottom feeder companies that just monitor public torrents and auto report the ip to the isps. they make pennies but i guess it's a living.

you just dont use public torrents.

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: MRO to Lmorchard on Sun Mar 19 2023 11:57 pm

> there's bottom feeder companies that just monitor public torrents and auto
> report the ip to the isps. they make pennies but i guess it's a living.
>
> you just dont use public torrents.

Yupyup, admittedly I want to say I was super-dumb and downloaded some stuff from pirate bay and a few public TV episode torrents. Don't do that, folks.

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Cougar428 to NIGHTFOX on Sun Mar 19 2023 08:09 am

> Is BitTorrent trackable/traceable?

It is easy for Internet Service Providers to determine you are using BitTorrent.

BitTorrent traffic is usually encrypted nowadays, but anybody downloading the same
files as you can also find out easily you are downloading the same file. In effect,
the only thing you need to know who are downloading some piece of copyrighted material
is to start downloading yourself and then check the list of IPs in the swarm.

You may remain intraceable if you do NitTorrent within an anonimity network (I2P comes
to mind) but then you are limited to downloads available inside those networks.

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Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
By: Lmorchard to MRO on Tue Mar 21 2023 04:40 am

>
> Yupyup, admittedly I want to say I was super-dumb and downloaded some stuff
> from pirate bay and a few public TV episode torrents. Don't do that, folks.

if you HAVE to do that, hit and run. grab it fast and do not seed.
take it out of your client.

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