Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Mar 07 2021 09:39 pm

> Re: Re: Bleach Time!
> By: MRO to fusion on Sun Mar 07 2021 06:25 pm
>
> MR> yeah it's not yellow because it's aged, it's discolored from something
> MR> else. i'd like to know what that something else is.
>
> MR> i've had old stuff like that and it didnt yellow. i wonder if this is f
> MR> smokers.
>
> I've heard some white plastics can turn yellow by being exposed to sunlight
>
> Nightfox
>

Some plastics are treated with a fire retardant that causes yellowing even
without exposure to UV light

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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Sat Aug 14 2021 08:47 pm

> Re: Re: Bleach Time!
> By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Mar 07 2021 09:39 pm

this is from last march
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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Aug 15 2021 09:59 am

>> By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Mar 07 2021 09:39 pm

MR> this is from last march

Yep, that's indeed what the date says.
....and?

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Aug 16 2021 12:42 pm

> Re: Re: Bleach Time!
> By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Aug 15 2021 09:59 am
>
> >> By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Mar 07 2021 09:39 pm
>
> MR> this is from last march
>
> Yep, that's indeed what the date says.
> ...and?
>

it's almost 5 and a half months ago. we've moved on from that post.
people shouldnt reply to old shit.

that's your 'and'
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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Aug 16 2021 09:11 pm

MR> it's almost 5 and a half months ago. we've moved on from that post.
MR> people shouldnt reply to old shit.

MR> that's your 'and'

Maybe they hadn't seen it yet. Not everyone reads Dove-Net every day. There are people who might not read Dove-Net for months and then check back.

I'm wondering why it bothers you so much?

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Aug 16 2021 08:11 pm

> Maybe they hadn't seen it yet. Not everyone reads Dove-Net every day.

maybe they should update their msg pointers.

> There are people who might not read Dove-Net for months and then check back.
>
> I'm wondering why it bothers you so much?
>

it's good msg network etquette to update your msg pointers and not reply to
posts that are many months old.

I'm wondering why it bothers you so much when i complain about it.
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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Aug 17 2021 09:00:07

> it's good msg network etquette to update your msg pointers and not reply to
> posts that are many months old.

Well that's definitely not true. Reply to messages that are interesting
and relevant, simple as that. God didn't come down from the heavens to
tell people Thou Shalt Not Reply to Messages A Few Months Old. You're
just making up useless etiquette rules where none exist.

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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: Ksource to MRO on Wed Aug 18 2021 03:28 am

> Re: Re: Bleach Time!
> By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Aug 17 2021 09:00:07
>
> > it's good msg network etquette to update your msg pointers and not reply
> > to posts that are many months old.
>
> Well that's definitely not true. Reply to messages that are interesting
> and relevant, simple as that. God didn't come down from the heavens to

update your msg pointers so you dont necro post.

thanks.
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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: Ksource to MRO on Wed Aug 18 2021 03:28 am

>> it's good msg network etquette to update your msg pointers and not
>> reply to posts that are many months old.

Ks> Well that's definitely not true. Reply to messages that are interesting
Ks> and relevant, simple as that. God didn't come down from the heavens to
Ks> tell people Thou Shalt Not Reply to Messages A Few Months Old. You're
Ks> just making up useless etiquette rules where none exist.

Yep. If someone wants to talk about a particular subject, would it be better to start up a new thread, even though it has been discussed before?

And if you're just looking for information, a forum search is often a good thing to do, as there might be an old thread that can provide some useful information.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: MRO to Ksource on Wed Aug 18 2021 08:56 am

MR> update your msg pointers so you dont necro post.

So, if someone wants to discuss a particular subject, even if it has been discussed before, would it be better for them to start a new thread?

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: Nightfox to Ksource on Wed Aug 18 2021 08:32 am

> Yep. If someone wants to talk about a particular subject, would it be
> better to start up a new thread, even though it has been discussed before?

yeah start a new thread instead of digging up an old one.

christ, this is why forums lock shit.

> And if you're just looking for information, a forum search is often a good
> thing to do, as there might be an old thread that can provide some useful
> information.

i'm not saying dont read old shit. but dont reply to it
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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Aug 18 2021 08:33 am

> Re: Re: Bleach Time!
> By: MRO to Ksource on Wed Aug 18 2021 08:56 am
>
> MR> update your msg pointers so you dont necro post.
>
> So, if someone wants to discuss a particular subject, even if it has been
> discussed before, would it be better for them to start a new thread?
>
> Nightfox
>

I think it is generally good ettiquete to start a new thread rather than necro
a threat that has been cold for months. Specially if there is new information
regarding it.

I don't think necroing an old thread is bad as long as there is a reasonable
probability that the people originally involved with it is around, though.
Maybe it is just me but I don't feel assaulted by necros or anything :-)

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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Aug 18 2021 03:47 pm

> I don't think necroing an old thread is bad as long as there is a reasonable
> probability that the people originally involved with it is around, though.
> Maybe it is just me but I don't feel assaulted by necros or anything :-)
>

i think it really shows a flaw in the synchronet interface.
when a new user gets past the application i think it should ask them if they'd like to update their msg pointers.

almost ALL the time, when a new user replies to old msgs they are doing it by accident. these msgs are new to them, but not new and they dont realize it until later.

i've done it myself.
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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Aug 18 2021 09:38 pm

> Re: Re: Bleach Time!
> By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Aug 18 2021 03:47 pm
>
> > I don't think necroing an old thread is bad as long as there is a
> > reasonable probability that the people originally involved with it is
> > around, though. Maybe it is just me but I don't feel assaulted by necros
> > or anything :-)
>
>
> i think it really shows a flaw in the synchronet interface.
> when a new user gets past the application i think it should ask them if
> they'd like to update their msg pointers.

Each sysop has the option to set new users' message pointers however they like
via SCFG->System->New User Values->Days of New Messages. I think the default value is 30 (days).

> almost ALL the time, when a new user replies to old msgs they are doing it
> by accident. these msgs are new to them, but not new and they dont realize
> it until later.
>
> i've done it myself.

The BBS could warn or disallow responses to messages older than some specified age too. There's a lot of options for the enterprising sysop to pursue.
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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Aug 18 2021 09:38 pm

> Re: Re: Bleach Time!
> By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Aug 18 2021 03:47 pm
>
> > I don't think necroing an old thread is bad as long as there is a reasona
> > probability that the people originally involved with it is around, though
> > Maybe it is just me but I don't feel assaulted by necros or anything :-)
>
>
> i think it really shows a flaw in the synchronet interface.
> when a new user gets past the application i think it should ask them if they
> like to update their msg pointers.
>
> almost ALL the time, when a new user replies to old msgs they are doing it b
> accident. these msgs are new to them, but not new and they dont realize it
> until later.
>
> i've done it myself.

Actually, this is somethign I have actually thought myself. Synchronet would
benefit if there was an option for having the message pointers automatically
set upon the registration of a new user. Right now, a new user that registers
ends up having thousands of unread messages to check, onyl a small fraction of
which are current enough to be worth checking.

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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: Digital Man to MRO on Wed Aug 18 2021 08:10 pm

> Each sysop has the option to set new users' message pointers however they li
> via SCFG->System->New User Values->Days of New Messages. I think the default
> value is 30 (days).
>

That is awesome and we love you for that!

How come I have not realized such thing was so :-(

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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: Digital Man to MRO on Wed Aug 18 2021 08:10 pm

> > i think it really shows a flaw in the synchronet interface.
> > when a new user gets past the application i think it should ask them if
> > they'd like to update their msg pointers.
>
> Each sysop has the option to set new users' message pointers however they
> like via SCFG->System->New User Values->Days of New Messages. I think the
> default value is 30 (days).
>
> > almost ALL the time, when a new user replies to old msgs they are doing

oh that's cool, i didnt know that. i just made my script that asks them.
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Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: Arelor to MRO on Thu Aug 19 2021 07:13 am

>
> Actually, this is somethign I have actually thought myself. Synchronet would
> benefit if there was an option for having the message pointers automatically
> set upon the registration of a new user. Right now, a new user that
> registers ends up having thousands of unread messages to check, onyl a small
> fraction of which are current enough to be worth checking.
>
>

yeah and a lot of bbses have several msg nets, so the average new user would get overload and just [q]uit.
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