│ > ahhhh, I will check into that!
│
│ As others have mentioned here, I should retract my advice and instead recommend
│ MakeMKV, which has the ability to rip the audio and video streams and
│ completely disregard whatever encryption keys are in store. I had completely
│ spaced on this, probably bec
Welllllll.... I do not have your or their confidence in makemkv. I got it
compiled and poped one of the disks in question in. It has been working on
it for about 1:45. The "time remaining" to scan the contents is now up
over 43 *hours*. I am going to let it continue overnight, but I suspect it
will be up over 100 hours by morning.
The disk cover says "THIS DISK IS EXPECTED TO PLAY BACK IN DVD VIDEO "PLAY
ONLY" DEVICES, AND MAY NOT PLAY IN OTHER DVD DEVICES... INCLUDING PC
DRIVES." As I noted in past I was able to get Handbrake to find the
advertising and "extras" titles on the disks, but not the actual episodes.
I suspect they've come up with something beyond encryption and actually have
something on the disk that prevents PC DVD Drives from being able to read
them.
As a side note, it looks like MakeMKV has not been updated since 2010. The
disks I have found that have this message on them are about 10 years newer
than that.
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Re: MakeMKV
By: MIKE POWELL to KAELON on Thu Jul 21 2022 07:48 pm

> The disk cover says "THIS DISK IS EXPECTED TO PLAY BACK IN DVD VIDEO "PLAY
> ONLY" DEVICES, AND MAY NOT PLAY IN OTHER DVD DEVICES... INCLUDING PC
> DRIVES." As I noted in past I was able to get Handbrake to find the
> advertising and "extras" titles on the disks, but not the actual episodes.
> I suspect they've come up with something beyond encryption and actually have
> something on the disk that prevents PC DVD Drives from being able to read
> them.

Out of curiosity, what is the title you're trying to rip?
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** On Thursday 21.07.22 - 19:48, MIKE POWELL wrote to KAELON:

MP> Welllllll.... I do not have your or their confidence in
MP> makemkv. I got it compiled and poped one of the disks in
MP> question in. It has been working on it for about 1:45.
MP> The "time remaining" to scan the contents is now up over
MP> 43 *hours*. I am going to let it continue overnight, but
MP> I suspect it will be up over 100 hours by morning.

I've had excellent results with DVD Shrink, in the past. I've
never had "recent" DVDs to try it with though.

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Re: MakeMKV
By: MIKE POWELL to KAELON on Thu Jul 21 2022 07:48 pm

MP> As a side note, it looks like MakeMKV has not been updated since 2010. The
MP> disks I have found that have this message on them are about 10 years newer
MP> than that.

Eh? The latest version of MakeMKV is 1.17.1, which was released on July 13, 2022:
http://makemkv.com/download/

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Re: MakeMKV
By: Ogg to MIKE POWELL on Fri Jul 22 2022 07:16 am

Og> I've had excellent results with DVD Shrink, in the past. I've
Og> never had "recent" DVDs to try it with though.

I think DVD Shrink and MakeMKV are like apples & oranges. DVD Shrink produces an ISO (which you can then burn to a DVD-R), whereas MakeMKV outputs a .mkv video file that you can play directly.

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> MP> Welllllll.... I do not have your or their confidence in
> MP> makemkv. I got it compiled and poped one of the disks in
> MP> question in. It has been working on it for about 1:45.
> MP> The "time remaining" to scan the contents is now up over
> MP> 43 *hours*. I am going to let it continue overnight, but
> MP> I suspect it will be up over 100 hours by morning.

> I've had excellent results with DVD Shrink, in the past. I've
> never had "recent" DVDs to try it with though.

The bad news is that the time remaining did, as predicted, continue to go
up overnight. The good news is that one of my two DVD sets that contains
that disclaimer actually does work on the PC, so I should be able to make a
digital copy of it.

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> > The disk cover says "THIS DISK IS EXPECTED TO PLAY BACK IN DVD VIDEO "PLAY
> > ONLY" DEVICES, AND MAY NOT PLAY IN OTHER DVD DEVICES... INCLUDING PC
> > DRIVES." As I noted in past I was able to get Handbrake to find the
> > advertising and "extras" titles on the disks, but not the actual episodes.
> > I suspect they've come up with something beyond encryption and actually hav
> > something on the disk that prevents PC DVD Drives from being able to read
> > them.

> Out of curiosity, what is the title you're trying to rip?

The Expanse, Season 4.

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> I've had excellent results with DVD Shrink, in the past. I've
> never had "recent" DVDs to try it with though.

Thanks. That appears to be a Windows application. I do not currently own
a Windows machine to try it out on. :)

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Re: MakeMKV
By: Dumas Walker to OGG on Fri Jul 22 2022 04:38 pm

>> I've had excellent results with DVD Shrink, in the past. I've
>> never had "recent" DVDs to try it with though.

DW> Thanks. That appears to be a Windows application. I do not currently own
DW> a Windows machine to try it out on. :)

I've found DVD Shrink to be a fairly useful program (and it's very easy to use). It's one of those Windows apps that I'd be tempted to run with Wine or something in another OS if possible, if I wanted to use it.

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> MP> As a side note, it looks like MakeMKV has not been updated since 2010. Th
> MP> disks I have found that have this message on them are about 10 years newe
> MP> than that.

> Eh? The latest version of MakeMKV is 1.17.1, which was released on July 13, 2
> 2:
> http://makemkv.com/download/

To get the linux version, you are redirected from that page to a forum page
that explains how to compile the code. The forum post, which announces the
availability of 1.17.1, is from April 9, *2009*.

Either way, it does not handle the disks in question.

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> DW> Thanks. That appears to be a Windows application. I do not currently own
> DW> a Windows machine to try it out on. :)

> I've found DVD Shrink to be a fairly useful program (and it's very easy to use
> It's one of those Windows apps that I'd be tempted to run with Wine or someth
> g in another OS if possible, if I wanted to use it.

I might try that if I really get to wanting a digital copy of that one, or
if I start having troubles with more disks more often. My experience with
wine (which is not recent experience) is that programs which do simple
tasks, like text editing or image viewing, run fine, but ones that do more
complicated things (like accessing peripherals, like a DVD drive, USB ports,
etc.) are not likely to work too well.

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Re: MakeMKV
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sat Jul 23 2022 09:18 am

>> Eh? The latest version of MakeMKV is 1.17.1, which was released on
>> July 13, 2022:
>> http://makemkv.com/download/

DW> To get the linux version, you are redirected from that page to a forum
DW> page that explains how to compile the code. The forum post, which
DW> announces the availability of 1.17.1, is from April 9, *2009*.

Weird.. I've been using MakeMKV for the last 4 years or so and there have been at least several updates since I've started using it.

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Re: MakeMKV
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sat Jul 23 2022 09:22 am

>> I've found DVD Shrink to be a fairly useful program (and it's very

DW> I might try that if I really get to wanting a digital copy of that one, or

DVD is a digital medium.. By "digital copy", I assume you mean a ripped file?

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> DW> I might try that if I really get to wanting a digital copy of that one, o

> DVD is a digital medium.. By "digital copy", I assume you mean a ripped file?

Correct, a digital copy that does not require a special player to watch it.

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On 7/21/22 12:48, MIKE POWELL wrote:
>
> Welllllll.... I do not have your or their confidence in makemkv. I
> got it compiled and poped one of the disks in question in. It has
> been working on it for about 1:45. The "time remaining" to scan the
> contents is now up over 43 *hours*. I am going to let it continue
> overnight, but I suspect it will be up over 100 hours by morning.

Is it bluray or dvd? I've found there are some discs that are just not
working right in PC rips... If you're using windows, there's also
ANYDVD-HD as another option, can use it with handbrake. I've found
MakeMKV more reliable.

> The disk cover says "THIS DISK IS EXPECTED TO PLAY BACK IN DVD VIDEO
> "PLAY ONLY" DEVICES, AND MAY NOT PLAY IN OTHER DVD DEVICES...
> INCLUDING PC DRIVES." As I noted in past I was able to get Handbrake
> to find the advertising and "extras" titles on the disks, but not the
> actual episodes.

Yeah, copy-protection schemes can get *VERY* interesting to say the elast.

> I suspect they've come up with something beyond encryption and
> actually have something on the disk that prevents PC DVD Drives from
> being able to read them.

They'll play games with actual sector data printing the discs... this
isn't a problem for actual players that just go where the device media
tells it to go, but it's harder for computers trying to read the whole
thing.

> As a side note, it looks like MakeMKV has not been updated since 2010.
> The disks I have found that have this message on them are about 10
> years newer than that.

Looks like there's recent versions to me...

https://www.makemkv.com/download/

Bought a license a few years ago, as it's about the only option in Linux
that works worth a damn.
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> > Welllllll.... I do not have your or their confidence in makemkv. I
> > got it compiled and poped one of the disks in question in. It has
> > been working on it for about 1:45. The "time remaining" to scan the
> > contents is now up over 43 *hours*. I am going to let it continue
> > overnight, but I suspect it will be up over 100 hours by morning.

> Is it bluray or dvd? I've found there are some discs that are just not
> working right in PC rips... If you're using windows, there's also
> ANYDVD-HD as another option, can use it with handbrake. I've found
> MakeMKV more reliable.

DVD.

> > The disk cover says "THIS DISK IS EXPECTED TO PLAY BACK IN DVD VIDEO
> > "PLAY ONLY" DEVICES, AND MAY NOT PLAY IN OTHER DVD DEVICES...
> > INCLUDING PC DRIVES." As I noted in past I was able to get Handbrake
> > to find the advertising and "extras" titles on the disks, but not the
> > actual episodes.

> Yeah, copy-protection schemes can get *VERY* interesting to say the elast.

I have another disk that says that but seems to work ok in this PC drive.

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