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Re: Garry Shandling

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To: DaiTengu
Subject: Re: Garry Shandling
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 by: PhazeVektor - Sun, 16 May 2021 13:21 UTC

Da> held the callsigns WA7BKG, KD6OY and KQ6KA. The latter he held with a
Da> pseudonym, Dave Waddell, to avoid undue attention when he operated. [46]

I'm sure I can look this up, but I'll ask anyway - what does it take to be
able to register your lic with a pseudonymn? Is this a case of "the rules
don't apply to everyone"?

~pv

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Re: Garry Shandling

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Re: Re: Garry Shandling
By: PhazeVektor to DaiTengu on Sun May 16 2021 08:21 pm

Da>> held the callsigns WA7BKG, KD6OY and KQ6KA. The latter he held with
Da>> a pseudonym, Dave Waddell, to avoid undue attention when he
Da>> operated. [46]

Ph> I'm sure I can look this up, but I'll ask anyway - what does it take to be
Ph> able to register your lic with a pseudonymn? Is this a case of "the rules
Ph> don't apply to everyone"?

I honestly have no clue, and was a bit shocked when I read that myself. Tim Allen (Home Improvement, Last Man Standing, The Santa Clause etc.) holds a Technician license under the callsign KK6OTD, which is under his real name, Tim Dick.

DaiTengu

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Re: Garry Shandling

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To: PhazeVektor
Subject: Re: Garry Shandling
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 by: Brian Rogers - Sun, 16 May 2021 17:04 UTC

-=> PhazeVektor wrote to DaiTengu <=-

Da> held the callsigns WA7BKG, KD6OY and KQ6KA. The latter he held with a
Da> pseudonym, Dave Waddell, to avoid undue attention when he operated. [46]

Ph> I'm sure I can look this up, but I'll ask anyway - what does it take to
Ph> be able to register your lic with a pseudonymn? Is this a case of "the
Ph> rules don't apply to everyone"?

I really can see how they might have allowed this. Even Senator Barry
Goldwater operated and was licensed under his own name, and in the country
of Jordan King Heussien also operated under his own name. Funny thing about
the King, if you did work him on the air and referred to him as "your majesty"
he became -very- offended! He was happy to remind those that while he is
on the global airwaves he is an amateur radio operator and requests he be
treated as everyone else.

Another famous and probably best looking ham operator was Farrah Fawcett.
It would have been "angelic" to have "worked" her... pun intended <G>

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Re: Garry Shandling

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To: DaiTengu
Subject: Re: Garry Shandling
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 by: Brian Rogers - Mon, 17 May 2021 04:52 UTC

-=> DaiTengu wrote to PhazeVektor <=-

Da> I honestly have no clue, and was a bit shocked when I read that
Da> myself. Tim Allen (Home Improvement, Last Man Standing, The Santa
Da> Clause etc.) holds a Technician license under the callsign KK6OTD,
Da> which is under his real name, Tim Dick.

Q: Do you know how he makes his HT go from 5w to 25w?
A: More Power! Arr Arr Arr Arr <G>

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Re: Garry Shandling

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Subject: Re: Garry Shandling
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 by: Daryl Stout - Wed, 19 May 2021 19:49 UTC

Brian,

BR> I really can see how they might have allowed this. Even Senator Barry
BR> Goldwater operated and was licensed under his own name, and in the
BR> country of Jordan King Heussien also operated under his own name. Funny
BR> thing about the King, if you did work him on the air and referred to
BR> him as "your majesty" he became -very- offended! He was happy to remind
BR> those that while he is on the global airwaves he is an amateur radio
BR> operator and requests he be treated as everyone else.

Interesting. His QSL Card is a collectors item now.

BR> Another famous and probably best looking ham operator was Farrah
BR> Fawcett. It would have been "angelic" to have "worked" her... pun
BR> intended <G>

Interesting. I didn't know she was a ham.

There was a website that listed some famous hams over the years, and I put
that info into a presentation I did at regional hamfest 2 years ago...here's
what I had (some are no longer licensed, or Silent Keys). Credit for this
goes to Ross Goodall, WD4NJV...and Billy Williams, N4UF:

W1AW - ARRL Founder Hiram Percy Maxim
JY1 - King Hussein of Jordan
W9EEA - The Amateur's Code Author, Paul M. Segal
W4CGP - Musician Chet Atkins
KB2GSD - CBS News Anchor Walter Cronkite
K7UGA - 1 time Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater
WD5DVR - 1 time Arkansas Senator Mike Ross
W7EQI - 1 time Oregon Senator Greg Walden
WB6ACU - Joe Walsh of "The Eagles"
WB4KCG - Blind Country-Western Singer Ronnie Milsap
WD4LZC - Gospel Singer Larnelle "Stu" Harris (I understand he loves CW)
NK7U - Retired Major League Baseball Player Joe Rudi
K1JT - Nobel Prize Winner in Physics Doctor Joe Taylor
W1ZE - First licensed ham in the US, Irving Vermilya
K2AMH - Inventor of the Moog Synthesizer, Robert Moog
KB1NXP - Former Governor of Maine, John Baldacci
K2ZCS - Former Governor of New York, George Pataki
K2GL - Inventor of Stereo Sound System, Hazard Reeves
K2ORS - Writer and Humorist, Gene Shepherd
NE2Q - Electronic Siren Inventor, Jay Kolinsky
W2SGG - Co-Inventor of Printed Circuits, Robert Cusumano
NS3T - Radio News Correspondent, Jamie Dupree
K4EB - Member of .38 Special, Larry Junstrom
KD4WUJ - Country-Western Singer Patty Loveless
K9EID - Heil Sound Founder and Accomplished Organist, Bob Heil

BR> ... The older I get the tighter the lids are on jars!

That's the side effect of the new prescription to help you open the
container. <G>

Daryl, WX4QZ

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Re: Garry Shandling

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To: Daryl Stout
Subject: Re: Garry Shandling
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 by: Brian Rogers - Thu, 20 May 2021 03:33 UTC

Hello Daryl;

-=> Daryl Stout wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

DS> Interesting. His QSL Card is a collectors item now.

I would imagine a few QSL cards are. When you consider the average age of
a ham is 70 (fact!) there's probably more SKs than active ones... and those
who are still active most likely are taking some form of daily medications.

DS> Interesting. I didn't know she was a ham.

Oh yes indeedy she was! If you ever wanted to know the definition of a
pile-up... you should have caught a frequency she popped on <G>

DS> There was a website that listed some famous hams over the years, and
DS> I put that info into a presentation I did at regional hamfest 2 years
DS> ago...here's what I had (some are no longer licensed, or Silent Keys).
DS> Credit for this goes to Ross Goodall, WD4NJV...and Billy Williams,
DS> N4UF:

DS> W1AW - ARRL Founder Hiram Percy Maxim
DS> JY1 - King Hussein of Jordan
^^^^
These I knew. I'm NTS Net manager now of Nutmeg VHF net. We may end up
moving it to the new W1AW repeater.

DS> W4CGP - Musician Chet Atkins
DS> KB2GSD - CBS News Anchor Walter Cronkite
DS> K7UGA - 1 time Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater
^^^^^
These I knew about as well.

DS> WB6ACU - Joe Walsh of "The Eagles"
DS> WB4KCG - Blind Country-Western Singer Ronnie Milsap
^^^^^^
These too. The rest I did not know about. Even if one doesn't use it, having
the license is a good thing to have because you never do know when it'll be
needed.

DS> That's the side effect of the new prescription to help you open the
DS> container. <G>

Speaking of which... I have to make a run to get 2 refills :\

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Re: Garry Shandling

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To: Brian Rogers
Subject: Re: Garry Shandling
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 by: Daryl Stout - Mon, 24 May 2021 08:41 UTC

BR> Hello Daryl;

Hi, Brian...

BR> I would imagine a few QSL cards are. When you consider the average age
BR> of a ham is 70 (fact!) there's probably more SKs than active ones...
BR> and those who are still active most likely are taking some form of
BR> daily medications.

They mentioned that on the QCWA (Quarter Century Wireless Association)
Webinar this past Saturday...even pausing for a moment of silence for the
SK's in the last year.

I trashed them out in the chat room after the meeting had ended, when
one ham had offered to buy VE6AFO, president of QCWA, a beer. I typed in
"I'll take a diet green tea citrus...you can hold my beer" (hi hi). I was
told this morning on a D-Star Net that "in the south, you're also supposed
to say 'Watch This!!'" after saying that. I doubt it applies to Mug, Barq's,
Dad's, Hires, or A&W. Man, now I want a root beer float. <G>

BR> Oh yes indeedy she was! If you ever wanted to know the definition of a
BR> pile-up... you should have caught a frequency she popped on <G>

Do you remember her callsign?? I know she is a Silent Key now (anal cancer,
from what I understand).

BR> These too. The rest I did not know about. Even if one doesn't use it,
BR> having the license is a good thing to have because you never do know
BR> when it'll be needed.

This is true. I'm not on the air as much as I used to be. Vision problems
of late (mainly corneal abrasions) have made it hard to be at the computer
for long periods of time...either for nets, or getting the BBS into the
cloud. If that wasn't enough, degenerative disk disease in my spine makes
it difficult to sit at the computer, or to stand in one spot, for long
periods of time.

DS> That's the side effect of the new prescription to help you open the
DS> container. <G>

BR> Speaking of which... I have to make a run to get 2 refills :\

ROTFL - Ran Out To Find Lunch. <G>

Daryl

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Subject: Re: Garry Shandling
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 by: Brian Rogers - Tue, 25 May 2021 12:34 UTC

Hello Daryl;

-=> Daryl Stout wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

DS> They mentioned that on the QCWA (Quarter Century Wireless
DS> Association) Webinar this past Saturday...even pausing for a moment of
DS> silence for the SK's in the last year.

There's been sooo many it's unreal. Of course the cause is all COVID - just
so the hospitals and doctors can get government kickbacks... how disgusting!

DS> I trashed them out in the chat room after the meeting had ended, when
DS> one ham had offered to buy VE6AFO, president of QCWA, a beer. I typed
DS> in "I'll take a diet green tea citrus...you can hold my beer" (hi hi).
DS> I was told this morning on a D-Star Net that "in the south, you're also
DS> supposed to say 'Watch This!!'" after saying that. I doubt it applies
DS> to Mug, Barq's, Dad's, Hires, or A&W. Man, now I want a root beer
DS> float. <G>

Mug and A&W are my two favs :)

DS> Do you remember her callsign?? I know she is a Silent Key now (anal
DS> cancer, from what I understand).

Now I can't recall what it was. If you can find her obit online I think it
may mention what it was. That was the last time I saw it listed.

DS> This is true. I'm not on the air as much as I used to be. Vision
DS> problems of late (mainly corneal abrasions) have made it hard to be at
DS> the computer for long periods of time...either for nets, or getting the
DS> BBS into the cloud. If that wasn't enough, degenerative disk disease in
DS> my spine makes it difficult to sit at the computer, or to stand in one
DS> spot, for long periods of time.

I'm usually not around for very long saturday - monday at least. Yesterday I
slept for 24 hours with the exception of committing body function needs... eat
and recycle what was consumed <G> Muscle relaxer meds knock me completely
out! Arthritis build up in my C5 causing my left side to experience the
joys of pinched nerves.

.... I lost my job as a stage designer. I left without making a scene.
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 by: Daryl Stout - Wed, 26 May 2021 22:49 UTC

Brian,

BR> There's been sooo many it's unreal. Of course the cause is all COVID -

I sent back all my ham radio license exam items to ARRL/VEC yesterday.
In the local area, I doubt we'll be able to get to use facilities until
August...and by then, kids coming back from summer vacation, will bring
COVID-19 with them...and we'll be right back where we started. While it
cost a good bit, I sent it all in one big box. Now, if it turns out I can
do a session, they'll just send the needed items, and I'll send the stuff
back afterwards.

BR> Mug and A&W are my two favs :)

There used to be a restaurant in the Miami, Florida area years ago,
called "Royal Castle" and they had a drink called "Birch Beer". It
was non-alcoholic, but it wasn't what you'd call root beer, but I did
like the flavor.

BR> Now I can't recall what it was. If you can find her obit online I think
BR> it may mention what it was. That was the last time I saw it listed.

I remember a deal on Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In years ago (I'm really
showing my age now <G>), where it noted "I wish someone would turn off
Farrah's Fawcett". I believe she married Lee Majors, who was "The Six
Million Dollar Man"...and I think Lindsay Wagner was "The Bionic Woman".

BR> I'm usually not around for very long saturday - monday at least.
BR> Yesterday I slept for 24 hours with the exception of committing body
BR> function needs... eat and recycle what was consumed <G> Muscle relaxer
BR> meds knock me completely out! Arthritis build up in my C5 causing my
BR> left side to experience the joys of pinched nerves.

I have a 15 page medical list, with all my doctors, surgeries, meds (OTC
and Rx), conditions, etc. The only thing it doesn't have is a full front
and back nude photo...then, it would be "everything you wanted to know
about me medically, but were afraid to ask". <G> One time, when I went to
the ER, and they asked me my medical history, I handed it over to them,
and said "Read This!!". I thought the nurse was going to kiss me!! She
said "This makes it so much easier for us".

I'm considering changing PCP's, because one local area hospital system
has no idea how to update their patients data files. I was repeatedly
told I need certain procedures, which have already been done...and I
can't see the need to do them again...never mind Medicare won't pay for
it if it's sooner than a year and a day between them (unless it's
absolutely medically necessary). Even their IT department has no clue.

Daryl

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Hello Daryl;

-=> Daryl Stout wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

DS> I sent back all my ham radio license exam items to ARRL/VEC
DS> yesterday. In the local area, I doubt we'll be able to get to use
DS> facilities until August...and by then, kids coming back from summer
DS> vacation, will bring COVID-19 with them...and we'll be right back where
DS> we started. While it cost a good bit, I sent it all in one big box.
DS> Now, if it turns out I can do a session, they'll just send the needed
DS> items, and I'll send the stuff back afterwards.

A good friend of mine who's in the U.K. now was a VE before he left the states
to go back home to England... he also worked as QSL Manager at ARRL HQ. That
place is more pathetic than one can shake a Jpole at. When he got word that
licenenses are now going to contain a $35 fee, and he doesn't get reimbursed
for LEAGUE EXPENSES, he had the league drop his VE status... and he won't
be renewing. As for me, when mine expires I will not be renewing either.

BR> Mug and A&W are my two favs :)

DS> There used to be a restaurant in the Miami, Florida area years ago,
DS> called "Royal Castle" and they had a drink called "Birch Beer". It
DS> was non-alcoholic, but it wasn't what you'd call root beer, but I did
DS> like the flavor.

We have a hot-dog place that sells Birch Beer. I'm very familiar with it.
I'd say it's like a vanilla root-beer. Had one the other day as a matter of
fact. We also had some actual A&W restaurants too years ago.

DS> I remember a deal on Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In years ago (I'm
DS> really showing my age now <G>), where it noted "I wish someone would
DS> turn off Farrah's Fawcett". I believe she married Lee Majors, who was
DS> "The Six Million Dollar Man"...and I think Lindsay Wagner was "The
DS> Bionic Woman".

You are correct sir! Now do you remember in 1968 when they did an episode
of "Future News"... the year I think was 1980, then president Ronald Regan...
they were off by months!

DS> I have a 15 page medical list, with all my doctors, surgeries, meds
DS> (OTC and Rx), conditions, etc. The only thing it doesn't have is a full
DS> front and back nude photo...then, it would be "everything you wanted to
DS> know about me medically, but were afraid to ask". <G> One time, when I
DS> went to the ER, and they asked me my medical history, I handed it over
DS> to them, and said "Read This!!". I thought the nurse was going to kiss
DS> me!! She said "This makes it so much easier for us".

Been there, done that, got the T-shirt, mailed out the post cards. It does
help them because today's medical staff is very sloppy. You should see how
bad it is here!

DS> I'm considering changing PCP's, because one local area hospital
DS> system has no idea how to update their patients data files. I was
DS> repeatedly told I need certain procedures, which have already been
DS> done...and I can't see the need to do them again...never mind Medicare
DS> won't pay for it if it's sooner than a year and a day between them
DS> (unless it's absolutely medically necessary). Even their IT department
DS> has no clue.

Here they seem to have very selective hearing... you say one thing, they
translate it to something else which usually involves receiving more pills
to swallow or more needles to inject myself with. I only keep a PCP because
my insurance requires me to carry one. Most times I can't even get through
to them when I do need them.

I just fired my endocrinologist because in 2 years they refused to let me see
an actual doctor in the mean while my sugar rate is at coma levels and rising.
I don't need to practice the definition of insanity <G> I was livid at them
my last visit. I told the prep aid that I was firing them. She still insisted
on taking my BP. 170 over 130... no crap! I was steaming and trying to be
civil! Finally I started to let loose when the P.A. came in... and told em
that they've succeeded on raising the level of integrity shown by used car
salesmen!

I'm tough when it comes to doctors. They've caused me a volume of injury, and
I catch them lying all too often. Pretty pathetic... and their faces when you
do call them on it is priceless!

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 by: Daryl Stout - Thu, 27 May 2021 11:09 UTC

Brian,

BR> A good friend of mine who's in the U.K. now was a VE before he left the
BR> states to go back home to England... he also worked as QSL Manager at
BR> ARRL HQ. That place is more pathetic than one can shake a Jpole at.

Contesting is one thing that never appealed to me. And, I just eQSL now.

BR> When he got word that licenenses are now going to contain a $35 fee,
BR> and he doesn't get reimbursed for LEAGUE EXPENSES, he had the league
BR> drop his VE status... and he won't be renewing. As for me, when mine
BR> expires I will not be renewing either.

Mine doesn't renew until I turn 69, just under 8 years from now. The
way the powder keg in the Middle East is, I may not have to worry about
being around by then.

BR> Mug and A&W are my two favs :)

BR> We have a hot-dog place that sells Birch Beer. I'm very familiar with
BR> it. I'd say it's like a vanilla root-beer. Had one the other day as a
BR> matter of fact. We also had some actual A&W restaurants too years ago.

That sounds like it. There used to be an A&W in Hot Springs, Arkansas.
A club in Ravenna, Ohio has a gathering at the area A&W every summer.

BR> You are correct sir! Now do you remember in 1968 when they did an
BR> episode of "Future News"... the year I think was 1980, then president
BR> Ronald Regan... they were off by months!

You bet your sweet bippy. <G>

BR> Been there, done that, got the T-shirt, mailed out the post cards. It
BR> does help them because today's medical staff is very sloppy. You should
BR> see how bad it is here!

Or like the meme with the doctors on strike. You couldn't read the
picket signs, as they were all written in shorthand. <G>

BR> Here they seem to have very selective hearing... you say one thing,
BR> they translate it to something else which usually involves receiving
BR> more pills to swallow or more needles to inject myself with. I only
BR> keep a PCP because my insurance requires me to carry one. Most times I
BR> can't even get through to them when I do need them.

1) Overmedicated?? We have a prescription for that.

2) Side effects may include hand and wrist pain...and that's from just
trying to open the container.

3) Rare side effects may include death.

BR> I'm tough when it comes to doctors. They've caused me a volume of
BR> injury, and I catch them lying all too often. Pretty pathetic... and
BR> their faces when you do call them on it is priceless!

They get wined and dined by all the drug reps, then have to listen
through their spiels. Some clinics restrict the time the drug reps
can come into the places. Then you add the cost of radio/TV/print/
internet ads, and that's why they're so expensive...and why Big Pharma
doesn't want things going generic.

Daryl

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 by: Brian Rogers - Thu, 27 May 2021 15:16 UTC

Hello Daryl;

DS> Contesting is one thing that never appealed to me. And, I just eQSL
DS> now.

Me either. Field day was the closest I got to contesting and even then it
was more for the outdoor overnighter.

DS> Mine doesn't renew until I turn 69, just under 8 years from now. The
DS> way the powder keg in the Middle East is, I may not have to worry about
DS> being around by then.

2025 here... and counting...

DS> That sounds like it. There used to be an A&W in Hot Springs,
DS> Arkansas. A club in Ravenna, Ohio has a gathering at the area A&W every
DS> summer.

Ahh nice! They should have it around the time Xenia is. Fatten us all up
even more <G>

DS> You bet your sweet bippy. <G>

I think I lost my bippy when I had my colonoscopy <G>

DS> Or like the meme with the doctors on strike. You couldn't read the
DS> picket signs, as they were all written in shorthand. <G>

Oh I've seen some beauts! Especially where Fauci is concerned.

DS> 1) Overmedicated?? We have a prescription for that.

DS> 2) Side effects may include hand and wrist pain...and that's from just
DS> trying to open the container.

DS> 3) Rare side effects may include death.

I love how almost all scripts now have a side effect which includes death now
a day. Why don't we just all go visit Dr. Achmed the dead terrorist: Silence!
I kill you!!! <BEG>

DS> They get wined and dined by all the drug reps, then have to listen
DS> through their spiels. Some clinics restrict the time the drug reps
DS> can come into the places. Then you add the cost of radio/TV/print/
DS> internet ads, and that's why they're so expensive...and why Big Pharma
DS> doesn't want things going generic.

I know all about that. Funny too how they all seem to have your full
prescription in their offices too.

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 by: Daryl Stout - Fri, 28 May 2021 10:40 UTC

BR> Hello Daryl;

Hi, Brian...

DS> Contesting is one thing that never appealed to me. And, I just eQSL
DS> now.

BR> Me either. Field day was the closest I got to contesting and even then
BR> it was more for the outdoor overnighter.

I usually am doing ham radio nets in the evenings, or I go square dancing
(there are dancing hams <G>). At a National Convention several years ago, I
used ham radio to save someone's life.

DS> Mine doesn't renew until I turn 69, just under 8 years from now. The
DS> way the powder keg in the Middle East is, I may not have to worry about
DS> being around by then.

BR> 2025 here... and counting...

2029 for me. And as for 69, all snide remarks will be relegated to The
Fertilizer Net (hi hi).

DS> That sounds like it. There used to be an A&W in Hot Springs,
DS> Arkansas. A club in Ravenna, Ohio has a gathering at the area A&W every
DS> summer.

BR> Ahh nice! They should have it around the time Xenia is. Fatten us all
BR> up even more <G>

Too bad Xenia got zapped again this year due to COVID-19. As far as I can
tell, the Huntsville Hamfest is still on. I went there 4 years ago, but the
bus ride to and from Little Rock nearly killed me. I had to transfer in
Nashville, but the seating was so tight that my legs locked up on me, and
I nearly fell when I stood up. To make matters worse, my pants fell when
I stood up. Had I not had the Depends on, it would've been "full moon
rising". <G>

DS> You bet your sweet bippy. <G>

BR> I think I lost my bippy when I had my colonoscopy <G>

I'm due for another one...but have to get the bathrooms repaired after
an incident 2 months ago. I'm still working out things with the insurance
company and the contractor.

DS> Or like the meme with the doctors on strike. You couldn't read the
DS> picket signs, as they were all written in shorthand. <G>

BR> Oh I've seen some beauts! Especially where Fauci is concerned.

The Covid-19 shot is known as the Fauci Ouchee. <G>

DS> 1) Overmedicated?? We have a prescription for that.

DS> 2) Side effects may include hand and wrist pain...and that's from just
DS> trying to open the container.

DS> 3) Rare side effects may include death.

BR> I love how almost all scripts now have a side effect which includes
BR> death now a day. Why don't we just all go visit Dr. Achmed the dead
BR> terrorist: Silence! I kill you!!! <BEG>

There are several funny ones that Jeff Dunham has done, and Achmed seems
to be the overall favorite.

DS> They get wined and dined by all the drug reps, then have to listen
DS> through their spiels. Some clinics restrict the time the drug reps
DS> can come into the places. Then you add the cost of radio/TV/print/
DS> internet ads, and that's why they're so expensive...and why Big Pharma
DS> doesn't want things going generic.

BR> I know all about that. Funny too how they all seem to have your full
BR> prescription in their offices too.

With my luck, I go to the drugstore, and my formulary doesn't cover it.

Daryl

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Hello Daryl;

-=> Daryl Stout wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

DS> I usually am doing ham radio nets in the evenings, or I go square
DS> dancing (there are dancing hams <G>). At a National Convention several
DS> years ago, I used ham radio to save someone's life.

I'm net manager of the Nutmeg VHF Traffic Net now. I had an opportunity to
move it to the W1AW repeater - still do, but our original machine is letting
us back on.

DS> Too bad Xenia got zapped again this year due to COVID-19. As far as I
DS> can tell, the Huntsville Hamfest is still on. I went there 4 years ago,
DS> but the bus ride to and from Little Rock nearly killed me. I had to
DS> transfer in Nashville, but the seating was so tight that my legs locked
DS> up on me, and I nearly fell when I stood up. To make matters worse, my
DS> pants fell when I stood up. Had I not had the Depends on, it would've
DS> been "full moon rising". <G>

I was at the final Dayton show. Was there with K2MF of MFNOS fame. Had a
blast! One of our early local shows the Goshen HamFast did go as scheduled
this year. I missed it but heard it was pretty full.

DS> I'm due for another one...but have to get the bathrooms repaired
DS> after an incident 2 months ago. I'm still working out things with the
DS> insurance company and the contractor.

Oh you definitely need that fixed first! That's a no doubter!

DS> The Covid-19 shot is known as the Fauci Ouchee. <G>

Another possible tagline!

DS> There are several funny ones that Jeff Dunham has done, and Achmed
DS> seems to be the overall favorite.

Walter is one of my favorites.

DS> With my luck, I go to the drugstore, and my formulary doesn't cover
DS> it.

I keep going so often for refills they want to start charging me rent :\

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BR> Hello Daryl;

Hi, Brian...

BR> I'm net manager of the Nutmeg VHF Traffic Net now. I had an opportunity
BR> to move it to the W1AW repeater - still do, but our original machine is
BR> letting us back on.

Out of curiosity, does it handle formal written traffic (such as the NTS),
or is just a "regular traffic and announcements net"?? I've always wanted to
learn how to handle a radiogram...and am familiar with it, but never got the
practice or instruction for it.

BR> I was at the final Dayton show. Was there with K2MF of MFNOS fame. Had
BR> a blast! One of our early local shows the Goshen HamFast did go as
BR> scheduled this year. I missed it but heard it was pretty full.

The last big hamfest I went to was Huntsville in 2017. Shreveport is
supposed to have one this year, but I don't have the funds to go. Plus,
you can't just drop what you're doing and come home in the event of an
emergency.

BR> Oh you definitely need that fixed first! That's a no doubter!

To the insurance company, it's a catastrophe if they have to pay a claim.

DS> The Covid-19 shot is known as the Fauci Ouchee. <G>

BR> Another possible tagline!

Glad to contribute to your collection. <G>

DS> There are several funny ones that Jeff Dunham has done, and Achmed
DS> seems to be the overall favorite.

BR> Walter is one of my favorites.

Like the one he was telling Jeff about his "sex life". Now, the
ventriloquist is doing ALL the talking, etc., but they make you think
the "dummy" is actually "alive". With Walter describing his sex life,
he said "these are kind of pornographic":

1) Get Off!!
2) I Can't See The Weather Channel!!

And, for him, "oral sex" is when his wife screams "Screw You!!", he
yells "Bite Me!!". <G>

I also am reminded of the joke where there was this ventriloquist,
who was telling blonde jokes...and there was a blonde female in the
audience. She was understandably furious, and starts chewing out the
ventriloquist. When he starts to apologize, the blonde shot back "I'm
not talking to you, Mister!! I'm talking to that person sitting on
your leg!!" <G>.

DS> With my luck, I go to the drugstore, and my formulary doesn't cover
DS> it.

BR> I keep going so often for refills they want to start charging me rent
:\

With the zaniness of some of the weather forecast models at times, I want
to know what they're smoking, or what drugs they're taking!! I've seen the
forecasters note "This model solution is totally out to lunch, and will be
discarded". :P

Daryl

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 by: Brian Rogers - Sat, 29 May 2021 13:42 UTC

Hello Daryl;

-=> Daryl Stout wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

BR> Hello Daryl;

DS> Out of curiosity, does it handle formal written traffic (such as the
DS> NTS), or is just a "regular traffic and announcements net"?? I've
DS> always wanted to learn how to handle a radiogram...and am familiar with
DS> it, but never got the practice or instruction for it.

Nutmeg, which is our state's oldest VHF NTS net does indeed handle formal
NTS messages... into, out of, and through out the Nutmeg State. There's a
site done by the WMass group I think that explains it well.

DS> The last big hamfest I went to was Huntsville in 2017. Shreveport is
DS> supposed to have one this year, but I don't have the funds to go. Plus,
DS> you can't just drop what you're doing and come home in the event of an
DS> emergency.

I wonder if they're doing Boxboro this fall. That one is usually good
size and close to HRO in NH.

DS> To the insurance company, it's a catastrophe if they have to pay a
DS> claim.

Of course! Lowers the company assets.

DS> Glad to contribute to your collection. <G>

I'll let you add it to yours :)

DS> Like the one he was telling Jeff about his "sex life". Now, the
DS> ventriloquist is doing ALL the talking, etc., but they make you think
DS> the "dummy" is actually "alive". With Walter describing his sex life,
DS> he said "these are kind of pornographic":

DS> 1) Get Off!!
DS> 2) I Can't See The Weather Channel!!

DS> And, for him, "oral sex" is when his wife screams "Screw You!!", he
DS> yells "Bite Me!!". <G>

Ahh yes! Have you seen the special he did in Ireland? He made a character
just for them... Baby Shaemus! Hysterical!

DS> I also am reminded of the joke where there was this ventriloquist,
DS> who was telling blonde jokes...and there was a blonde female in the
DS> audience. She was understandably furious, and starts chewing out the
DS> ventriloquist. When he starts to apologize, the blonde shot back "I'm
DS> not talking to you, Mister!! I'm talking to that person sitting on
DS> your leg!!" <G>.

ROFL!! I'm sure the ventriloquist laughed as hard as the audience must have.

DS> With the zaniness of some of the weather forecast models at times, I
DS> want to know what they're smoking, or what drugs they're taking!! I've
DS> seen the forecasters note "This model solution is totally out to lunch,
DS> and will be discarded". :P

Here... we say if you don't like the weather, wait 5 minutes. <G>

.... Never say during sex: get off me, i'll do it myself!!!!
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 by: Daryl Stout - Sun, 30 May 2021 11:16 UTC

BR> Hello Daryl;

Hi, Brian...

BR> Nutmeg, which is our state's oldest VHF NTS net does indeed handle
BR> formal NTS messages... into, out of, and through out the Nutmeg State.
BR> There's a site done by the WMass group I think that explains it well.

I know the Dallas/Fort Worth Net does handle NTS traffic as well. I'm not
sure how many NTS nets there are.

BR> I wonder if they're doing Boxboro this fall. That one is usually good
BR> size and close to HRO in NH.

Rob Macedo, KD1CY, usually goes to that one. He's the director of the
VoIP Hurricane Net.

Speaking of which, the 12z GFS run this morning (which goes out to 384
hours, which would be 12z June 15), is showing a potential hurricane along
the Texas/Louisiana Gulf Coast region. That could mess up the Hurricane
Conference planned for New Orleans in the following days.

Now, some weather wishcasters (I can't stand these folks) will jump on
this at this far out, and swear up and down that "this is what's going to
happen!!". It has to get to 240 hours out (10 days) before the ECMWF will
even consider it. Other models don't even go out that far. I use the F5
Weather site, mainly for comparison. I'm not a meteorologist, but an
amateur weather enthusiast...but "I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last
night!!" (hi hi).

DS> To the insurance company, it's a catastrophe if they have to pay a
DS> claim.

BR> Of course! Lowers the company assets.

And, if hurricane season really ramps up early (we've already had one
storm in the Atlantic and Eastern Pacific basin, but a lower than normal
season is forecast in the central Pacific (Hawaii), that's going to tax
them even more. These folks who live along the coast say "the danger with
being hit by a hurricane, is part of the price you pay to live in paradise".
To me, that's too great a price to pay.

DS> Glad to contribute to your collection. <G>

BR> I'll let you add it to yours :)

Now, I forgot what it was. I called a friend yesterday, and she asked
me how my day was yesterday. I replied "It was Saturday, and that's all
I remember". :P

DS> And, for him, "oral sex" is when his wife screams "Screw You!!", he
DS> yells "Bite Me!!". <G>

BR> Ahh yes! Have you seen the special he did in Ireland? He made a
BR> character just for them... Baby Shaemus! Hysterical!

No, I missed that one. I saw the one with Achmed and his son, and it
was about the time Jeff was supposedly getting divorced. I don't know
if he and his wife are still married, separated, or divorced.

Peanut wanted to know how he got his wife pregnant at their age (he
didn't think he had it in him, but I've read where some men are potent
and fertile into their 80's (unless one has had their wings clipped).

When Jeff said "I get to watch them take their first steps", Peanut
laughingly retorted "And, they get to watch you take your last steps!!" :P

BR> ROFL!! I'm sure the ventriloquist laughed as hard as the audience must
BR> have.

It's not as easy as it looks. Plus, you're constantly having to practice,
and prepare new material.

BR> Here... we say if you don't like the weather, wait 5 minutes. <G>

It's less than that in Arkansas...it's supposed to storm much of the week.
That will mess up my nets and BBS work. And, as luck would have it, other
things have gotten in the way of moving the BBS into the cloud.

BR> ... Never say during sex: get off me, i'll do it myself!!!!

Or the tagline below. <G>

Daryl

.... How long do we have to practice sex before it's safe??
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 by: Brian Rogers - Mon, 31 May 2021 16:27 UTC

Hello Daryl;

-=> Daryl Stout wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

DS> I know the Dallas/Fort Worth Net does handle NTS traffic as well. I'm
DS> not sure how many NTS nets there are.

We have several in my area alone... I can think of a good half dozen just
off the top of my head.

DS> Rob Macedo, KD1CY, usually goes to that one. He's the director of the
DS> VoIP Hurricane Net.

They also have a big ARRL meeting there too. I've never been but know several
who have.

DS> And, if hurricane season really ramps up early (we've already had one
DS> storm in the Atlantic and Eastern Pacific basin, but a lower than
DS> normal season is forecast in the central Pacific (Hawaii), that's going
DS> to tax them even more. These folks who live along the coast say "the
DS> danger with being hit by a hurricane, is part of the price you pay to
DS> live in paradise". To me, that's too great a price to pay.

Amen!

DS> Now, I forgot what it was. I called a friend yesterday, and she asked
DS> me how my day was yesterday. I replied "It was Saturday, and that's all
DS> I remember". :P

Sometimes the less you know the better off you are <G>

DS> No, I missed that one. I saw the one with Achmed and his son, and it
DS> was about the time Jeff was supposedly getting divorced. I don't know
DS> if he and his wife are still married, separated, or divorced.

Yes I have that one on USB drive as well :) All funny stuff!

DS> Peanut wanted to know how he got his wife pregnant at their age (he
DS> didn't think he had it in him, but I've read where some men are potent
DS> and fertile into their 80's (unless one has had their wings clipped).

DS> When Jeff said "I get to watch them take their first steps", Peanut
DS> laughingly retorted "And, they get to watch you take your last steps!!"
:P

Peanut is the crazier one of the bunch... and one of the oldest.

DS> It's not as easy as it looks. Plus, you're constantly having to
DS> practice, and prepare new material.

I wonder which is more difficult tbh.

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 by: Daryl Stout - Tue, 1 Jun 2021 15:17 UTC

BR> Hello Daryl;

Hi, Brian...

BR> We have several in my area alone... I can think of a good half dozen
BR> just off the top of my head.

Since I can't have RF gear at the QTH, I'm only on the air for the nets
that I run (via "internet radio"). It's hard enough finding folks to be Net
Control, and my license isn't just a sheet of paper. The purists don't like
this approach, but it was either operate this way, or quit the hobby.

The thing is, even if you use one of the remote base operations, if
propagation is horrible where you are, and at every other point...you
aren't going to hear anyone on RF. And, if someone else is using the remote
base when you want to use it, you have to operate later, or are just "SOL".

With the QuadNet Array (https://openquad.net) with D-Star, DMR, WIRES-X,
or Fusion...or CQ100...you will hear someone on frequency, and they won't
be down in the noise and weeds.

None of us is getting any younger, and just like a shelf at the store, or
a buffet at a restaurant, if a hobby isn't replenished with new blood (for
everyone quitting the hobby or dying off), sooner more than later, the hobby
will die off as well.

Kids nowadays couldn't give a rats rear end about the heritage, current
state, or future of any hobby. They are so enamored into their tablets and
smartphones, and that's "their own little world". Once an EMP hits, every
piece of electronics (vehicles, gas pumps, POS terminals, communications,
etc.) is going to get fried.

BR> They also have a big ARRL meeting there too. I've never been but know
BR> several who have.

With COVID-19 higher in portions of the country, you wonder if things
will ever get back to some sense of normalcy. Admittedly, at the moment,
Arkansas is doing better than some states.

BR> Sometimes the less you know the better off you are <G>

Three things fail when we get older. Memory is first... <G>

DS> No, I missed that one. I saw the one with Achmed and his son, and it
DS> was about the time Jeff was supposedly getting divorced. I don't know
DS> if he and his wife are still married, separated, or divorced.

BR> Yes I have that one on USB drive as well :) All funny stuff!

Too bad it has to be so raunchy at times.

BR> Peanut is the crazier one of the bunch... and one of the oldest.

Don't ever let him try to order take out Chinese food. <G>

BR> I wonder which is more difficult tbh.

Both.

Daryl

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 by: Brian Rogers - Thu, 3 Jun 2021 16:07 UTC

Hello Daryl;

-=> Daryl Stout wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

DS> Since I can't have RF gear at the QTH, I'm only on the air for the
DS> nets that I run (via "internet radio"). It's hard enough finding folks
DS> to be Net Control, and my license isn't just a sheet of paper. The
DS> purists don't like this approach, but it was either operate this way,
DS> or quit the hobby.

I have potential Net Controls who will NOT run a net because of such. Using
the internet typically does not allow one to properly hear when a double is
occurring and a good net control will turn down NCS duties for such reasons.
I tend to agree. Feel free to classify me as an RF purist in this regard.

DS> The thing is, even if you use one of the remote base operations, if
DS> propagation is horrible where you are, and at every other point...you
DS> aren't going to hear anyone on RF. And, if someone else is using the
DS> remote base when you want to use it, you have to operate later, or are
DS> just "SOL".

We don't seem to have any issues with RF only... and we have a LOT more hills
to deal with than you do in the plains.

DS> With the QuadNet Array (https://openquad.net) with D-Star, DMR,
DS> WIRES-X, or Fusion...or CQ100...you will hear someone on frequency, and
DS> they won't be down in the noise and weeds.

When you use analog you don't have to worry what any repeater is speaking <G>

DS> None of us is getting any younger, and just like a shelf at the
DS> store, or a buffet at a restaurant, if a hobby isn't replenished with
DS> new blood (for everyone quitting the hobby or dying off), sooner more
DS> than later, the hobby will die off as well.

This has basically already occurred on packet. Name any station that is
RF only and you'll name a station not listed on any other. Also the fact that
most refuse to follow good network practices is another issue that's killed
it. Nothing worse you can do is to pull in a massive nodes table in which
90% are NOT reachable to give a newbie the feeling that the mode does NOT
WORK.

DS> Kids nowadays couldn't give a rats rear end about the heritage,
DS> current state, or future of any hobby. They are so enamored into their
DS> tablets and smartphones, and that's "their own little world". Once an
DS> EMP hits, every piece of electronics (vehicles, gas pumps, POS
DS> terminals, communications, etc.) is going to get fried.

When that day comes, I'll be laughing like hell too <G>

DS> With COVID-19 higher in portions of the country, you wonder if things
DS> will ever get back to some sense of normalcy. Admittedly, at the
DS> moment, Arkansas is doing better than some states.

Covid-19: free government's dream to install communism through Dr. Fauci!
He needs to go back to collecting bridge tolls <G>

DS> Three things fail when we get older. Memory is first... <G>

What did you say?? <G>

DS> Don't ever let him try to order take out Chinese food. <G>

Try watching this guy, sit through the full show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnOQQ_FQGns
Very funny stuff!

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 by: Daryl Stout - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 07:22 UTC

Brian,

BR> I have potential Net Controls who will NOT run a net because of such.
BR> Using the internet typically does not allow one to properly hear when a
BR> double is occurring and a good net control will turn down NCS duties
BR> for such reasons. I tend to agree. Feel free to classify me as an RF
BR> purist in this regard.

Well, even when the local club has RF only (and I've been licensed 30
years, not starting VoIP use until 2006), it was extremely difficult
getting folks to be Net Control, a club officer, or a worker at a hamfest.
Everyone wants the glory and benefits, but no one wants the gall and the
work.

BR> We don't seem to have any issues with RF only... and we have a LOT more
BR> hills to deal with than you do in the plains.

Arkansas has quite a bit of hills and some mountains. Years ago, there
was a hamfest held on top of one of the mountains...but it was a bear
trying to get to and from there.

BR> When you use analog you don't have to worry what any repeater is
BR> speaking <G>

The thing about analog, if someone is kerchunking, there's no way to
identify them. We had problems with that for years (and that may still
be the case today), of an interfering individual who was mobile, so the
fox hunters couldn't get a fix on him. With digital, the callsign shows
up.

BR> This has basically already occurred on packet. Name any station that is
BR> RF only and you'll name a station not listed on any other. Also the
BR> fact that most refuse to follow good network practices is another issue
BR> that's killed it. Nothing worse you can do is to pull in a massive
BR> nodes table in which 90% are NOT reachable to give a newbie the feeling
BR> that the mode does NOT WORK.

There are a ton of repeaters that are rarely used...maybe during nets,
and otherwise, they're dead as a doornail. I think in the Arklatex,
Arklamiss, and MidSouth, all of the frequencies for 2 meters, 1.25
meters, and 70 centimeters, are taken.

BR> When that day comes, I'll be laughing like hell too <G>

Maybe those with the tube type radios might be able to communicate,
but not much else. Talk about "Back To The Stone Age"...all that comes
to mind is the episode of "The Flintstones", with the intercom in the
doctor's office, with a parrot flying back and forth with the message. <G>

BR> Covid-19: free government's dream to install communism through Dr.
BR> Fauci! He needs to go back to collecting bridge tolls <G>

Just like AOC needs to go back being a bartender. :P

DS> Three things fail when we get older. Memory is first... <G>

BR> What did you say?? <G>

That's like the one in church where the woman tells her husband
"I just let a silent but deadly fart!! What should I do??!!". He
curtly replies "Change the batteries in your hearing aid". <BG>

Another deal has this elderly couple sitting on this couch, and
the old man says "My butt's asleep"...and his wife says "Yeah, I
can hear it snoring". <G>

Daryl, WX4QZ

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 by: Brian Rogers - Fri, 4 Jun 2021 15:31 UTC

Daryl;

-=> Daryl Stout wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

DS> Well, even when the local club has RF only (and I've been licensed 30
DS> years, not starting VoIP use until 2006), it was extremely difficult
DS> getting folks to be Net Control, a club officer, or a worker at a
DS> hamfest. Everyone wants the glory and benefits, but no one wants the
DS> gall and the work.

I think a good part of it comes from the lack of support from Newington.
They want nothing more but for packet to totally vanish! They've basically
squashed Amateur TV. Tis a shame. We used to have a net on Mondays that
had a repeater on our local Channel 61's tower and they'd have weekly
contests:
Who could find the sexiest nudie and cover her up with their callsign in
the most provocative way(s)... *that* was a fun net <G> Look up ham in
Websters:
ham (adj): Horny aged men <G>

You're right though, so many now a day just want to be lemmings and have
everything given to them on a silver 802.11 dish. Hell now a day NO CW is
required testing! I took the old CW tests.

DS> Arkansas has quite a bit of hills and some mountains.

Your women don't count.. braggar <G>

DS> Years ago,
DS> there was a hamfest held on top of one of the mountains...but it was a
DS> bear trying to get to and from there.

I was in the woods of New Hampshire past few days... almost had a bear get
me for breakfast! On 2 days he walked right past my window while I was in bed.
DS> The thing about analog, if someone is kerchunking, there's no way to
DS> identify them. We had problems with that for years (and that may still
DS> be the case today), of an interfering individual who was mobile, so the
DS> fox hunters couldn't get a fix on him. With digital, the callsign shows
DS> up.

What I don't get is, why all of a sudden are these issues when they weren't
10 years ago? Answer: technology made us L A Z Y. Half the fun of radio is
working for that contact... not having it handed to you. The one TXing would
insure he had the best SWR etc while the receiving station did what they could
to pull the signal out of the mud. Now that is basically gone. I won't get into
what it's doing to the band plan.

DS> There are a ton of repeaters that are rarely used...maybe during
DS> nets, and otherwise, they're dead as a doornail. I think in the
DS> Arklatex, Arklamiss, and MidSouth, all of the frequencies for 2 meters,
DS> 1.25 meters, and 70 centimeters, are taken.

Sounds very similar to here to be brutally honest.

DS> Maybe those with the tube type radios might be able to communicate,
DS> but not much else. Talk about "Back To The Stone Age"...all that comes
DS> to mind is the episode of "The Flintstones", with the intercom in the
DS> doctor's office, with a parrot flying back and forth with the message.
<G>

Ahh but did it work? Y/n <G> Analog also has a farther carrier distance
than digital does.

DS> That's like the one in church where the woman tells her husband
DS> "I just let a silent but deadly fart!! What should I do??!!". He
DS> curtly replies "Change the batteries in your hearing aid". <BG>

DS> Another deal has this elderly couple sitting on this couch, and
DS> the old man says "My butt's asleep"...and his wife says "Yeah, I
DS> can hear it snoring". <G>

In both cases was the wife Whoopie (cushion) Goldberg? <G>

.... Old sculptors never die, they just lose their marbles.
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