Re: Hello
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 12:01 pm

> i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
> you know you are old and people are dying.

This reminded me of a point that I'm surprised needs to regularly be made about information hunting on the internet:

The data has to actually BE online to be found.

I know most of us here understand that concept, but it is worth a refresher that not everything is put online, let alone in a searchable format that's actually been indexed by a search engine or is otherwise human readable.

It's incredible how many people in my life seem to think that literally every bit of information ever is on the internet -- that a simple search should be able to get you anything.

We know this to be false -- that, quite simply, some information people may want is not available in any meaningful way. It most certainly isn't any different with obits, as other replies have suggested, for a variety of reasons. That can be true, though, of just about any kind of data.

What I'm getting at is the fact that a blanket thought of just searching obits = absolute knowledge on the living or dead status of a person isn't the best methodology...
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Re: Hello
By: Kurisu to MRO on Fri Jan 19 2024 02:37 pm

> Re: Hello
> By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 12:01 pm
>
> > i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
> > you know you are old and people are dying.
>
> This reminded me of a point that I'm surprised needs to regularly be made
> about information hunting on the internet:

what point? your point?

> I know most of us here understand that concept, but it is worth a refresher
> that not everything is put online, let alone in a searchable format that's

everything is fucking put online.

> Re: Hello
>
> What I'm getting at is the fact that a blanket thought of just searching
> obits = absolute knowledge on the living or dead status of a person isn't
> the best methodology...

'blanket thought of just searching obits'

what?

obituaries are literally there to see if someone died and when and where.
you have no points.
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Re: Hello
By: MRO to Kurisu on Sat Jan 20 2024 08:38 am

So you're just going to be contrarian. Okay, means there's zero conversation to be had on that subject since you're playing the "nuh uh" card but I do want to prove you wrong in one statement.

> everything is fucking put online.

Okay then, if that statement is true, that "everything is fucking put online" then please identify the type of plant sitting on top of my computer as I type this.

You won't be able to, as that is an example of something (as in, information) which has not been in any capacity placed online. I've never written about the particular plant on my computer, so without a very lucky guess that I would still have to verify, you simply won't know. The information isn't online, and since that is something which cannot be found online, your statement is fundamnetally false.

Yeah, that's me being pedantic as fuck, but I did prove your statement wrong via an actual logic chain which can be followed by anyone who's not just being contrarian.

Now, what does that matter? It still demonstrates what I said: just replace plant on my computer with obituary. One may be published but that doesn't mean it does get put online -- there is nothing which universarlly forces such inforamtion to be placed in some way your or I could trivially access via a simple google search, as your original statement implied.

.....

Ironically, something like find a grave may actually prove a better way to check a living or dead status since if the grave was documented there it's pretty open-shut case that the person is considered deceased, and the requirements for such are simply for someone to have been to a graveyard, documented that grave existing, and get it published to the site, which can happen at seemingly any time and not some little window immediately after death.

But even precluding that, there are no obits for some of my own family members dying. Does that mean they are alive, still? Again, your entire point was "google it" which just doesn't work if the info isn't there.

Again, though, I've given this too much of a reply because, again, you simply wish to be contrarian. That's fine, you do you. TBH for every time I've seen your posts and been like "what the fuck bro" you've also posted things I fully agree with so it's just the way it is.

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Re: Hello
By: Kurisu to MRO on Fri Jan 19 2024 02:37 pm

> just searching obits absolute knowledge on the living or dead status of a
> person isn't the best methodology...

That's why I recommended a chant that goes "Hands vermillion, start of five.
Bright cotillion, raven's dive. Nightshade's promise, spirits strive. To the
living let now the dead come alive."

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Re: Hello
By: Nopants to Kurisu on Sat Jan 20 2024 09:04 am

>> just searching obits absolute knowledge on the living or dead status of a
>> person isn't the best methodology...

No> That's why I recommended a chant that goes "Hands vermillion, start of
No> five. Bright cotillion, raven's dive. Nightshade's promise, spirits
No> strive. To the living let now the dead come alive."

#beetlejuice

Nightfox

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Ni> #beetlejuice

#beetlejuice

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Re: Re: Hello
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sun Jan 21 2024 10:07 am

Ni>> #beetlejuice

PF> #beetlejuice

#beetlejuice

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Hello
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 21 2024 12:40 pm

> Re: Re: Hello
> By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sun Jan 21 2024 10:07 am
>
> Ni>> #beetlejuice
>
> PF> #beetlejuice
>
> #beetlejuice

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Re: Re: Hello
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 21 2024 12:40 pm

Ni>>> #beetlejuice

PF>> #beetlejuice

Ni> #beetlejuice

Its Showtime!

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