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* self checkouts againThe Godfather
+* self checkouts againShadow42085
|+* self checkouts againpoindexter FORTRAN
||`* self checkouts againMRO
|| `* self checkouts againNightfox
||  `* self checkouts againMRO
||   `* self checkouts againNightfox
||    `* self checkouts againMRO
||     `* self checkouts againNightfox
||      `- self checkouts againMRO
|+- self checkouts againMRO
|`* self checkouts againDumas Walker
| `- self checkouts againShadow42085
+- self checkouts againGamgee
+- self checkouts againMRO
`- self checkouts againDumas Walker

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Re: self checkouts again

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From: the.godfather@VERT/UNDERGRO (The Godfather)
To: Dumas Walker
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2023 17:38:00 +0000
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 by: The Godfather - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 17:38 UTC

DW> Self checkouts don't "cause" theft. They may allow easier avenues for
DW> theives to leave the building, and they are being suspended in areas
DW> where shoplifting is more of an issue. My guess would be these are the
DW> same places where the local legal system stopped prosecuting shoplifters.

I don't recall saying that self checkouts "cause" theft?

Walmarts decision for switching to add more cashiers was that too often people are not ringing some but not all items within their cart, beit intentional or not, which adds to the overall shrinkage of the store.

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From: shadow42085@VERT/PALANTIR (Shadow42085)
To: Dumas Walker
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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 by: Shadow42085 - Sun, 31 Dec 2023 05:11 UTC

Re: Re: self checkouts again
By: The Godfather to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 30 2023 05:38 pm

actually my local Wal-Mart just reduced cashier lanes recently here in Indiana but then of course this is not oregon/california/New York where crime rate are through the roof and most peope here are not crazy and full of themselves yet (KNOCK ON WOOD) thats my 2 cents

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From: gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR (Gamgee)
To: The Godfather
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2023 07:58:00 -0600
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 by: Gamgee - Sun, 31 Dec 2023 13:58 UTC

-=> The Godfather wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

DW> Self checkouts don't "cause" theft. They may allow easier avenues for
DW> theives to leave the building, and they are being suspended in areas
DW> where shoplifting is more of an issue. My guess would be these are the
DW> same places where the local legal system stopped prosecuting shoplifters.

TG> I don't recall saying that self checkouts "cause" theft?

You may not recall it, but you did. Here's the exact quote:

TG> The good news is I read an article that Walmart is going back toward
TG> Cashiers because the dystopian self check outs were causing too much
TG> theft, shrink, shop lifting. Until Tesla robots can apprehend without

That was in a message from you to 'MRO', dated 28Dec2023 in this message
area.

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Re: self checkouts again

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To: Shadow42085
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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 by: poindexter FORTRAN - Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:00 UTC

-=> Shadow42085 wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

Sh> actually my local Wal-Mart just reduced cashier lanes recently here in
Sh> Indiana but then of course this is not oregon/california/New York where
Sh> crime rate are through the roof

<SARCASM>
Yes, because the entirety of all of those states have the crime rate of
an urban inner city. </SARCASM>


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To: The Godfather
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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 by: MRO - Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:26 UTC

Re: Re: self checkouts again
By: The Godfather to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 30 2023 05:38 pm

> Walmarts decision for switching to add more cashiers was that too often
> people are not ringing some but not all items within their cart, beit
> intentional or not, which adds to the overall shrinkage of the store.

where the shit is this happening? not happening at any walmart i have
ever seen.
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To: Shadow42085
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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 by: MRO - Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:27 UTC

Re: Re: self checkouts again
By: Shadow42085 to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 30 2023 11:11 pm

> Re: Re: self checkouts again
> By: The Godfather to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 30 2023 05:38 pm
>
> actually my local Wal-Mart just reduced cashier lanes recently here in
> Indiana but then of course this is not oregon/california/New York where
> crime rate are through the roof and most peope here are not crazy and full
> of themselves yet (KNOCK ON WOOD) thats my 2 cents

every walmart near me has like 60 checkout lines. closed. 2 lines open
with casheer. then on opposite ends a self checkout.
how they have spark drivers so they have a checkout just for them.
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From: dumas.walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Dumas Walker)
To: SHADOW42085
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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 by: Dumas Walker - Sun, 31 Dec 2023 14:55 UTC

> Re: Re: self checkouts again
> By: The Godfather to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 30 2023 05:38 pm

> actually my local Wal-Mart just reduced cashier lanes recently here in Indiana
> ut then of course this is not oregon/california/New York where crime rate are
> rough the roof and most peope here are not crazy and full of themselves yet (K
> CK ON WOOD) thats my 2 cents

I think the move to more cashiers is in places where theft is a bigger
issue, and in places where prosecutors have decided to no longer go after
shoplifters.

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From: dumas.walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 (Dumas Walker)
To: THE GODFATHER
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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 by: Dumas Walker - Sun, 31 Dec 2023 15:15 UTC

> DW> Self checkouts don't "cause" theft. They may allow easier avenues for
> DW> theives to leave the building, and they are being suspended in areas
> DW> where shoplifting is more of an issue. My guess would be these are the
> DW> same places where the local legal system stopped prosecuting shoplifters.

> I don't recall saying that self checkouts "cause" theft?

I got the idea you did from this quote in another message:

> The good news is I read an article that Walmart is going back toward
> Cashiers because the dystopian self check outs were causing too much theft,

Maybe it was mis-attributed?

> Walmarts decision for switching to add more cashiers was that too often people
> re not ringing some but not all items within their cart, beit intentional or n
> , which adds to the overall shrinkage of the store.

They don't seem to be switching them here, yet.

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To: poindexter FORTRAN
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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 by: MRO - Sun, 31 Dec 2023 19:53 UTC

Re: Re: self checkouts again
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Shadow42085 on Sun Dec 31 2023 10:00 am

> -=> Shadow42085 wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
>
> Sh> actually my local Wal-Mart just reduced cashier lanes recently here in
> Sh> Indiana but then of course this is not oregon/california/New York where
> Sh> crime rate are through the roof
>
> <SARCASM>
> Yes, because the entirety of all of those states have the crime rate of
> an urban inner city. </SARCASM>

yeah walmart and walgreens are pulling out of california and oregon and other areas because they're racist! that is totally why.
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From: nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST (Nightfox)
To: MRO
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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 by: Nightfox - Sun, 31 Dec 2023 20:56 UTC

Re: Re: self checkouts again
By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Dec 31 2023 01:53 pm

MR> yeah walmart and walgreens are pulling out of california and oregon and
MR> other areas because they're racist! that is totally why.

I live in Oregon and haven't heard of either one pulling out of the state. They've closed stores in Portland, but not the whole state of Oregon.

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To: Nightfox
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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 by: MRO - Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:37 UTC

Re: Re: self checkouts again
By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Dec 31 2023 12:56 pm

> Re: Re: self checkouts again
> By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Dec 31 2023 01:53 pm
>
> MR> yeah walmart and walgreens are pulling out of california and oregon and
> MR> other areas because they're racist! that is totally why.
>
> I live in Oregon and haven't heard of either one pulling out of the state.
> They've closed stores in Portland, but not the whole state of Oregon.
>

and why did they close those stores?
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To: MRO
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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 by: Nightfox - Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:51 UTC

Re: Re: self checkouts again
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 01 2024 03:37 am

> MR>> yeah walmart and walgreens are pulling out of california and oregon
> MR>> and other areas because they're racist! that is totally why.

>> I live in Oregon and haven't heard of either one pulling out of the state.
>> They've closed stores in Portland, but not the whole state of Oregon.

MR> and why did they close those stores?

Because of vandalism, damage done to buildings (especially in the last few years), etc., especially in more dangerous parts of Portland where people might not want to be in.

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Re: self checkouts again

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From: mro@VERT/BBSESINF (MRO)
To: Nightfox
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2024 03:00:42 -0600
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 by: MRO - Tue, 2 Jan 2024 09:00 UTC

Re: Re: self checkouts again
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Jan 01 2024 11:51 am

> Re: Re: self checkouts again
> By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 01 2024 03:37 am
>
> > MR>> yeah walmart and walgreens are pulling out of california and oregon
> > MR>> and other areas because they're racist! that is totally why.
>
> >> I live in Oregon and haven't heard of either one pulling out of the
> state.
> >> They've closed stores in Portland, but not the whole state of Oregon.
>
> MR> and why did they close those stores?
>
> Because of vandalism, damage done to buildings (especially in the last few
> years), etc., especially in more dangerous parts of Portland where people
> might not want to be in.
>

oh my word! *clutches pearls*
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Re: self checkouts again

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From: shadow42085@VERT/PALANTIR (Shadow42085)
To: Dumas Walker
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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 by: Shadow42085 - Tue, 2 Jan 2024 11:36 UTC

Re: Re: self checkouts again
By: Dumas Walker to SHADOW42085 on Sun Dec 31 2023 09:55 am

well there are other reasons even I dont know what goes on in those mega-corps upper mangement heads but other than adding more cashiers or people in the front to keep an eye for shoplifters. Is to put a security tab on every item but thats impossible for alot of items plus that would be a logistical and costly nightmare, or do like alot of the high crime rate riddled cities stores did put them under lock and key and you have to get a SR to open the case to get the items. But thats another costly both in the cases and employees plus the chance the employee rips of the store themselves really a fucked up mess this has become but it will continue to get worse before it gets better anyway I am done with this later ya all.

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Re: self checkouts again

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From: nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST (Nightfox)
To: MRO
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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 by: Nightfox - Tue, 2 Jan 2024 17:38 UTC

Re: Re: self checkouts again
By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Jan 02 2024 03:00 am

>> MR>>> yeah walmart and walgreens are pulling out of california and oregon

>>>> I live in Oregon and haven't heard of either one pulling out of the
>> state.

> MR>> and why did they close those stores?
>> Because of vandalism, damage done to buildings (especially in the last few

MR> oh my word! *clutches pearls*

Yes, that happens in parts of Portland. At any rate, as far as I know, they haven't pulled out of the entire state of Oregon, as you seemed to suggest; it's just Portland.

Nightfox

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From: mro@VERT/BBSESINF (MRO)
To: Nightfox
Subject: Re: self checkouts again
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 by: MRO - Tue, 2 Jan 2024 19:31 UTC

Re: Re: self checkouts again
By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Jan 02 2024 09:38 am

> >> MR>>> yeah walmart and walgreens are pulling out of california and
> oregon
>
> >>>> I live in Oregon and haven't heard of either one pulling out of the
> >> state.
>
> > MR>> and why did they close those stores?
> >> Because of vandalism, damage done to buildings (especially in the last
> few
>
> MR> oh my word! *clutches pearls*
>
> Yes, that happens in parts of Portland. At any rate, as far as I know, they
> haven't pulled out of the entire state of Oregon, as you seemed to suggest;
> it's just Portland.
>

i didnt suggest the entire state. i just said they are pulling out of california and oregon. in california they said it's because of organized retail theft(san francisco).
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