Re: book: upgrade by blak
By: Hustler to Ogg on Tue Aug 01 2023 05:47 am

>> If you could do it all over again, what would you do now? ;)

Hu> I'd change my major to computer science instead of criminal justice. ;-)

Ooooo cool, so are you like a lawyer?

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> You said it yourself that highlighting was a bonus feature in a
> used textbook. So, you could have marketed your used books the
> same way! :D

My recollection, which might be wrong, was that the places that bought used
books from the students would not pay as much for ones that had been
highlighted, marked up, etc.

What got me was when I had to buy a real expensive book new only to find
out at the end of the term that the prof figured out it was not a good book
to use, changed back to their previous semester's book, and there was no
way to resell it.

I had that happen in an Accounting class. We were supposedly going to be
able to use it for the next class (Accounting II). That turned out false,
I could not resell the book, and wound up donating it to the library since
it was not a book I wanted to keep.

I kept my Astronomy and Geography textbooks.

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Re: book: upgrade by blak
By: Dumas Walker to OGG on Tue Aug 01 2023 09:15 am

DW> What got me was when I had to buy a real expensive book new only to find
DW> out at the end of the term that the prof figured out it was not a good
DW> book to use, changed back to their previous semester's book, and there was
DW> no way to resell it.

DW> I had that happen in an Accounting class. We were supposedly going to be
DW> able to use it for the next class (Accounting II). That turned out false,
DW> I could not resell the book, and wound up donating it to the library since
DW> it was not a book I wanted to keep.

DW> I kept my Astronomy and Geography textbooks.

I feel like there should be a way for college students to borrow their textbooks rather than buy them, and perhaps that would be less expensive. Most of the time, students don't need to keep the textbooks (though it would be good to still have the option to buy them).

Nightfox

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Re: book: upgrade by blak
By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Tue Aug 01 2023 01:07 pm

Ni> Re: book: upgrade by blak
Ni> By: Dumas Walker to OGG on Tue Aug 01 2023 09:15 am

DW>> What got me was when I had to buy a real expensive book new only to
DW>> find out at the end of the term that the prof figured out it was not
DW>> a good book to use, changed back to their previous semester's book,
DW>> and there was no way to resell it.

DW>> I had that happen in an Accounting class. We were supposedly going
DW>> to be able to use it for the next class (Accounting II). That
DW>> turned out false, I could not resell the book, and wound up donating
DW>> it to the library since it was not a book I wanted to keep.

DW>> I kept my Astronomy and Geography textbooks.

Ni> I feel like there should be a way for college students to borrow their
Ni> textbooks rather than buy them, and perhaps that would be less expensive.
Ni> Most of the time, students don't need to keep the textbooks (though it
Ni> would be good to still have the option to buy them).

Ni> Nightfox

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I heard somewhere that some colleges release new versions each year to force new purchaces by changing page numbers

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Re: book: upgrade by blak
By: Dumas Walker to OGG on Tue Aug 01 2023 09:15 am

> > You said it yourself that highlighting was a bonus feature in a
> > used textbook. So, you could have marketed your used books the
> > same way! :D
>
> My recollection, which might be wrong, was that the places that bought used
> books from the students would not pay as much for ones that had been
> highlighted, marked up, etc.
>
> What got me was when I had to buy a real expensive book new only to find
> out at the end of the term that the prof figured out it was not a good book
> to use, changed back to their previous semester's book, and there was no
> way to resell it.
>
> I had that happen in an Accounting class. We were supposedly going to be
> able to use it for the next class (Accounting II). That turned out false,
> I could not resell the book, and wound up donating it to the library since
> it was not a book I wanted to keep.
>
> I kept my Astronomy and Geography textbooks.
>

i bought used books for tech college. there wasnt really any mention of it being cheaper for having notes or highlights.
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Re: book: upgrade by blak
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Wed Aug 02 2023 01:39 am

MR> i bought used books for tech college. there wasnt really any mention of it
MR> being cheaper for having notes or highlights.

Why would it be cheaper for notes? What if they're wrong/distracting?

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-=> candycane wrote to Nightfox <=-

ca> I heard somewhere that some colleges release new versions each year to
ca> force new purchaces by changing page numbers

It's usually professors who write their own textbooks as a means of
additional income. I remember a physics professor who did minor upgrades
to a spiral bound "text book" complete with his own hand drawn scribbles
pretending to be diagrams. He bumped the version number and made veiled
threats to students who tried using the "old" edition.

Most of the content and page numbers were identical. We'd all had to
buy the previous edition in the fall. Bastard didn't even have the
decency to wait until the beginning of the school year to bump the
edition.

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> I feel like there should be a way for college students to borrow their textboo
> rather than buy them, and perhaps that would be less expensive. Most of the
> me, students don't need to keep the textbooks (though it would be good to stil
> have the option to buy them).

Some schools might do that, but I suspect it is a money maker for someone.
A couple of the smaller state schools here, as a way to compete with the
two largest, have started giving their students their textbooks as
"covered" by their tuition. As best as I can tell, the tuition at those
schools is still less than their larger brothers. The one thing I am not
clear on is whether or not that program is for all students, or just the
freshman class.

The way they advertise it, you get there for the semester and your books
are either already in your room, or ready for you to pick up.

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Re: book: upgrade by blak
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Wed Aug 02 2023 07:39 am

DW> The way they advertise it, you get there for the semester and your books
DW> are either already in your room, or ready for you to pick up.

Kinda ridiculous thats a selling point..

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> > My recollection, which might be wrong, was that the places that bought used
> > books from the students would not pay as much for ones that had been
> > highlighted, marked up, etc.

> i bought used books for tech college. there wasnt really any mention of it be
> g cheaper for having notes or highlights.

I agree they were not cheaper for the buying student. I think the book
stores did not pay the selling student as much for a book that was
marked up.

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> DW> The way they advertise it, you get there for the semester and your books
> DW> are either already in your room, or ready for you to pick up.

> Kinda ridiculous thats a selling point..

In a way, it is, but for some buying the expensive books themselves vs.
knowing it is taken care of might be a tipping point as to which school they
choose.

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Re: Re: book: upgrade by blak
By: Dr. What to Arelor on Tue Jul 18 2023 07:12 am

> quickly.

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Re: Re: book: upgrade by blak
By: Dr. What to Arelor on Tue Jul 18 2023 07:12 am

> eBook readers are wonderful if you are reading the book from cover to cover
> but as soon as you need to jump around in the book, they get cumbersome very
> quickly.

I get this, I really do.

This is a fine example of where different people's physical capabilities come into play.

Having been partially blind and fine/gross motor impaired all my life, print books have always been a struggle. You can't resize the font in a print book, and you can't do a keyword search either :)

There are all kinds of reasons why people might prefer them, and I would never try to convince them otherwise, because you need to do what works for YOU, but for me? ebooks all the way :)

The only exception is comics and graphic novels, where I still vastly prefer the printed page, in part due to the rendering of the art.

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