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dovenet / Synchronet Discussion / Re: kermit protocol in sy

SubjectAuthor
* kermit protocol in sypaulie420
`* kermit protocol in syPhigan
 +* kermit protocol in syBf2k+
 |`* kermit protocol in syMRO
 | `* kermit protocol in syBf2k+
 |  `- kermit protocol in syDredster
 `* kermit protocol in syThe Lizard Master
  +* kermit protocol in syPhigan
  |`* kermit protocol in syDigital Man
  | +- kermit protocol in syPhigan
  | `- kermit protocol in syThe Lizard Master
  +- kermit protocol in syRagnarok
  `- kermit protocol in syDredster

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Re: kermit protocol in sy

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From: paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 (paulie420)
To: Nightfox
Subject: Re: kermit protocol in sy
Message-ID: <64E04260.50294.sync@vert.synchro.net>
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 20:59:00 +0000
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 by: paulie420 - Fri, 18 Aug 2023 20:59 UTC

Ni> pa> Same here; I believe this has to do with current hardware, OS and
Ni> pa> softwares that we all run - neat that protocols perform differently 3
Ni> pa> years later, but kermit flies for me over telnet/ssh in terminal.
Ni>
Ni> I think they're performing differently because we're using them on an
Ni> internet connection rather than a serial/modem connection. File transfer
Ni> protcools such as Kermit, X/Y/Zmodem etc. were designed for serial
Ni> connections (with considerations for dialup modems) and as such, they
Ni> were designed for raw data connections. But all the software that works
Ni> with an internet connection uses network protocols such as TCP/IP &
Ni> such, which already have software mechanisms for transferring data back
Ni> & forth. As such, adding another file transfer protocol such as Zmodem
Ni> or Kermit onto that is redundant. A file transfer protocol that has
Ni> minimal overhead (which I think is true for Kermit) probably is faster
Ni> over the internet than something like Zmodem.

100% - its using these tools on our new tech that causes the differences. Regardless, its way better to just use www download links; but since people like using the terminal when bbsing, it is worthwhile that mL helps us offer kermit... mystic is a different beast. :P

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Re: kermit protocol in sy

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From: phigan@VERT/TACOPRON (Phigan)
To: paulie420
Subject: Re: kermit protocol in sy
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 by: Phigan - Sat, 19 Aug 2023 12:57 UTC

Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: paulie420 to Nightfox on Fri Aug 18 2023 08:59 pm

> Regardless, its way better to just use www download links; but since people
> like using the terminal when bbsing, it is worthwhile that mL helps us offer

I demand jmodem support, damnit!!

*cough*

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Re: kermit protocol in sy

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From: bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON (Bf2k+)
To: Phigan
Subject: Re: kermit protocol in sy
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 by: Bf2k+ - Sat, 19 Aug 2023 16:19 UTC

Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Phigan to paulie420 on Sat Aug 19 2023 05:57 am

Don't forget LModem...

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Re: kermit protocol in sy

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From: mro@VERT/BBSESINF (MRO)
To: Bf2k+
Subject: Re: kermit protocol in sy
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 by: MRO - Sun, 20 Aug 2023 02:30 UTC

Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Bf2k+ to Phigan on Sat Aug 19 2023 09:19 am

> Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
> By: Phigan to paulie420 on Sat Aug 19 2023 05:57 am
>
> Don't forget LModem...

whats lmodem?
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Re: kermit protocol in sy

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From: bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON (Bf2k+)
To: MRO
Subject: Re: kermit protocol in sy
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Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2023 21:08:55 -0700
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 by: Bf2k+ - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 04:08 UTC

Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Sat Aug 19 2023 09:30 pm

> whats lmodem?
In the Atari BBS world back in the 80's, Keith Ledbetter wrote BBS:Express Pro and BBS:Express ST. LModem was a protocol he designed for his BBSes.

I was just mentioning it to Phigan as a joke...

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Re: kermit protocol in sy

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From: the.lizard.master@VERT/NITEEYES (The Lizard Master)
To: Phigan
Subject: Re: kermit protocol in sy
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 08:17:18 -0400
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 by: The Lizard Master - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 12:17 UTC

Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Phigan to paulie420 on Sat Aug 19 2023 05:57 am

> I demand jmodem support, damnit!!
>
> *cough*

I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting today. Who's with me!

---TLM

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Re: kermit protocol in sy

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From: phigan@VERT/TACOPRON (Phigan)
To: The Lizard Master
Subject: Re: kermit protocol in sy
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 by: Phigan - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 16:46 UTC

Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: The Lizard Master to Phigan on Mon Aug 21 2023 08:17 am

> I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting today.
> Who's with me!

Hah! They might actually take up this one :). Surprised there isn't such support already!

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From: digital.man@VERT (Digital Man)
To: Phigan
Subject: Re: kermit protocol in sy
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 10:20:26 -0700
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 by: Digital Man - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 17:20 UTC

Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Phigan to The Lizard Master on Mon Aug 21 2023 09:46 am

> > I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting today.
> > Who's with me!
>
> Hah! They might actually take up this one :). Surprised there isn't such
> support already!

https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/300
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To: The Lizard Master
Subject: Re: kermit protocol in sy
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 by: Ragnarok - Tue, 22 Aug 2023 00:47 UTC

El 21/8/23 a las 09:17, The Lizard Master escribi�:
> Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
> By: Phigan to paulie420 on Sat Aug 19 2023 05:57 am
>
> > I demand jmodem support, damnit!!
> >
> > *cough*
>
> I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting today. Who's with me!
>
SBBS support for external protocols, maybe a good implementation of
punker could be work

syncterm have not this way.

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From: phigan@VERT/TACOPRON (Phigan)
To: Digital Man
Subject: Re: kermit protocol in sy
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 by: Phigan - Tue, 22 Aug 2023 02:48 UTC

Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Mon Aug 21 2023 10:20 am

> > Hah! They might actually take up this one :). Surprised there isn't such
> > support already!
>
> https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/300

Ahhh, that's more like it :).

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To: Digital Man
Subject: Re: kermit protocol in sy
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 by: The Lizard Master - Tue, 22 Aug 2023 11:25 UTC

Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Mon Aug 21 2023 10:20 am

> > > I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting
> > > today. Who's with me!
>
> > Hah! They might actually take up this one :). Surprised there isn't such
> > support already!
>
> https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/300

Protest withdrawn.

---TLM

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 by: Dredster - Wed, 23 Aug 2023 04:43 UTC

Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Bf2k+ to MRO on Sun Aug 20 2023 09:08 pm

> > whats lmodem?
> In the Atari BBS world back in the 80's, Keith Ledbetter wrote BBS:Express Pro and BBS:Express ST. LModem was a protocol he designed for his BBSes.
>
> I was just mentioning it to Phigan as a joke...
>

You forgot the old C= standard, Punter!

Dred

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To: The Lizard Master
Subject: Re: kermit protocol in sy
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 by: Dredster - Wed, 23 Aug 2023 04:44 UTC

Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: The Lizard Master to Phigan on Mon Aug 21 2023 08:17 am

> I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting today. Who's with me!
>
> ---TLM

And as soon as I mention Punter, the very NEXT message mentions Punter :)

Dred

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