On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 9:39:12 AM UTC-8, dav...@sky.com wrote:
> On Saturday, 26 February 2022 at 16:29:53 UTC, rei...@dslextreme.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 8:20:50 AM UTC-8, Joshua Reichek wrote:
> > > On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 4:35:28 AM UTC-8, dav...@sky.com wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, 26 February 2022 at 01:15:12 UTC, rei...@dslextreme.com wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 10:55:33 AM UTC-8, dav...@sky.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, 24 February 2022 at 18:42:36 UTC, rei...@dslextreme.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 4:50:42 AM UTC-8, dav...@sky.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 23 February 2022 at 22:35:13 UTC, rei...@dslextreme.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Greetings all. I have been using Eudora 7.1.0.9 in windows as my email client for nearly 20 years. Currently it is running with the latest version of windows 10. It was running fine until this past weekend when it suddenly decided not to send emails. I can receive emails no problem.. None of my settings in Eudora have changed. These setting were working fine for years. I called dslextreme technical support for email and they of course said not our problem – They said their mail server is working fine and has been without any issues.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My Eudora email settings are:
> > > > > > > > > smtp server: smtp.dslextreme.com
> > > > > > > > > smtp relay personality: None
> > > > > > > > > All the following options are checked:
> > > > > > > > > allow authentication
> > > > > > > > > immediate send
> > > > > > > > > send on check
> > > > > > > > > use submission port (587)
> > > > > > > > > Secure sockets when sending: Never
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The issue I have with not being able to send emails is: upon and attempt to send an email, I get the following error message:
> > > > > > > > > <Dominant> , Connecting to the Mail Server…., EHLO MBMaster1.dslextreme.com {04:22:50 PM}
> > > > > > > > > Error reading from network Cause: connection closed by foreign host. [0]
> > > > > > > > > I also get:
> > > > > > > > > <Dominant> , Connecting to the Mail Server…., HELO MBMaster1.dslextreme.com {05:14:16 PM}
> > > > > > > > > Error reading from network Cause: connection closed by foreign host. [0]
> > > > > > > > > BTW .. MBMaster1 is the name of my computer. Any ideas? Anything would be appreciated.
> > > > > > > > > With appreciative regards, Joshua
> > > > > > > > Try setting "Secure Sockets when Sending" to "Required, Alternate Port".
> > > > > > > > Your provider has probably updated their security requirements, and you will probably have to do the same for receiving soon as well.
> > > > > > > Dav...sky - Thank you for responding. My provider's tech support said there had been no changes to the server and it was working fine - no other customers calling in with similar technical issues. Of course that is the easy way out for them. Thank for your suggestion -- I have tried all the options for setting "Secure Sockets when Sending" and none of them permit me to send emails again. There are four options to choose from for "Secure Sockets when Sending" :
> > > > > > > Never
> > > > > > > if available, STARTTLS
> > > > > > > Required, Alternate port
> > > > > > > Required, STARTTLS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any further thoughts or suggestions would be most welcomed and appreciated . Best regards, Joshua
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Well they must have changed something, or it wouldn't have suddenly stopped working!
> > > > > > There are two immediate possibilities.
> > > > > > One is that they have stopped supporting TLSv1.0 encryption, which is the only version that Eudora can natively use.
> > > > > > That is fixable using an update to some Eudora program files. It's called Hermes (nothing to do with the courier company!)
> > > > > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/
> > > > > > These new files give TLSv1.2 support to Eudora for sending and receiving.
> > > > > > The other possibility is that they now require an application specific password for mail clients that they deem to be insecure.
> > > > > > Eudora is one of them due to its age since its last update of course!
> > > > > > Have a look at the webmail interface, and check the settings page to see if there's anything that refers to that.
> > > > > > If so, you will have to get the webmail system to generate an application specific password, which you will have to use in Eudora in place of your usual password. Use the option Special>Forget Passwords in Eudora to remove your existing password, and put in the new one when prompted.
> > > > > > Good luck!
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Dave.
> > > > > Dear Dave and fellow forum members, Thank you for the thoughts and suggestions. I have downloaded Hermes and copied the files, per the readme.txt file, to my Eudora directory. I still cannot send emails. I can receive them fine. But not send. Any further thoughts or suggestions would be most welcomed and appreciated . Best regards, Joshua
> > > > >
> > > > Installing the Hermes files is always a good thing to do.
> > > > If you don't need them now, you almost certainly will at some point in the future when the servers stop supporting TLSv1.0.
> > > > You can check that the Hermes update is working by going to the properties of your Eudora persona, selecting the "Incoming Mail" tab, and clicking on "Last SSL Info" after doing a mail check. In the "SSL Info" box it should say "TLSv1.2".
> > > > As for the sending problem, did you look at the settings on the webmail interface to see if you can generate an application specific password?
> > > > Cheers, Dave.
> > > Dear Dave. Thank you so much for your assistance with this. I copied the hermes files over to the Eudora directory and verified that the modified date was yesterday when I copied the files over. I closed Eudora and relaunched it. I rebooted my computer, a Microsoft Book 2. The last ssl info gives: You have never done any ssl negotiations with any personality since the last time you started Eudora or a negotiation is in progress with that personality. Should the "Secure Sockets when Sending" be set to "Required, Alternate Por" or to "Never" I tried both but neither seems to make an difference. . I still cannot send emails. I am not sure what you are referring to when you say: "The other possibility is they now require an application specific password for mail clients they deem to be insecure.
> > > Have a look at the webmail interface, and check the settings page" -- Where do I find the "webmail interface" (a search for webmail in settings for windows 10 gave no results and I went to Zimbra my email service provider - dslextreme 's, browser based mail client and, perhaps in my ignorance, found nothing under preferences which would seem to effect sending mail from an email client?
> > > "If so, you will have to get the webmail system to generate an application specific password, " How would I go about doing that? "which you will have to use in Eudora in place of your usual password. Use the option Special>Forget Passwords in Eudora to remove your existing password, and put in the new one when prompted." Should I remove the existing password and put in a new one anyway? I so appreciate your assistance and knowledge. I tried to send screenshots here but was unsuccessful - This forum does not seem to permit including pictures/attachments. With my appreciation and gratitude for your assistance. Best regards, Joshua
> > Dear Dave, Greetings again. I occurs to me you may be indicating that I should make sure my password for access to Dslextreme's browser based Zimbra email program is the same as my password for my Eudora. Is that what you are suggesting I do? Best, Joshua
> >
> Hi again Joshua, we really need to know that the Hermes files are working.. Checking on the sending side won't be any good as you can't send at the moment anyway, so it will always say that you haven't made an SSL connection!
> Do a mail check (it doesn't matter if it doesn't find anything) and then look at the persona properties again, this time looking under the "Incoming Mail" tab. What do you see if you click the "Last SSL Info" button there? Does it say TLSv1.2? If so, the Hermes files are doing what they should do.
Dear Dave, Greetings again. I noticed I have a Last SSL info under Checking Mail the Secure Sockets when receiving is set to Never and the Last SSL Info gives "You have never done any ssl negotiation with any personality since the last time you started Eudora" Best, Joshua