I just tried to look at Apple maps (maps.apple.com) on my RasPiOS
machine and got nothing but advertising from the Apple store.

Is it possible to view Apple maps on a Pi? I normally use Google
maps and wanted to see how they compare. Neither chrome nor firefox
seem able to display Apple's map website on a Pi4.

Thanks for reading,

bob prohaska

bp@www.zefox.net wrote on 03.22.2024, 02:08 h:

> I just tried to look at Apple maps (maps.apple.com) on my RasPiOS
> machine and got nothing but advertising from the Apple store.

Same here on an Apple.

> Is it possible to view Apple maps on a Pi? I normally use Google
> maps and wanted to see how they compare. Neither chrome nor firefox
> seem able to display Apple's map website on a Pi4.

Seems like Apple Maps is not like Google Maps or Open Street Map an
accessible map system via browser but via own programm. I can use the
onboard application to view something but not Firefox e.g.

B. Alabay

On 22/03/2024 01:26, Başar Alabay wrote:
> bp@www.zefox.net wrote on 03.22.2024, 02:08 h:
>
>> I just tried to look at Apple maps (maps.apple.com) on my RasPiOS
>> machine and got nothing but advertising from the Apple store.
>
> Same here on an Apple.
>
>> Is it possible to view Apple maps on a Pi? I normally use Google
>> maps and wanted to see how they compare. Neither chrome nor firefox
>> seem able to display Apple's map website on a Pi4.
>
> Seems like Apple Maps is not like Google Maps or Open Street Map an
> accessible map system via browser but via own programm. I can use the
> onboard application to view something but not Firefox e.g.
>
> B. Alabay

I wonder how accurate they are - ISTR a few years ago they revamped
them, and missed out quite a few significant UK cities

--
Chris

Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I wonder how accurate they are - ISTR a few years ago they revamped
> them, and missed out quite a few significant UK cities
>

I'm in the USA, so YMMV

Ran across a page that suggested doing a duckduckgo.com search for a
business in the region of interest. Apparently duckduckgo.com has a
link to apple maps that works. One can then peruse the neighborhood,
get directions and bring up satellite images. Tried it, it works.

As to accuracy, apple maps seems to beat google maps, at least in
one very narrow way:

Using google maps to plan a bike route resulted in a path through
unpaved private land and even ploughed fields. Using apple maps
the route was realistic, sticking to public way that was paved.

I'm really surprised how idiotic google maps turned out to be.
Missing a recent change is understandable, but the ploughed field
had been there for a very long time.

Thanks for writing,

bob prohaska

On 22/03/2024 01:34, Chris Townley wrote:
> On 22/03/2024 01:26, Başar Alabay wrote:
>> bp@www.zefox.net wrote on 03.22.2024, 02:08 h:
>>
>>> I just tried to look at Apple maps (maps.apple.com) on my RasPiOS
>>> machine and got nothing but advertising from the Apple store.
>>
>> Same here on an Apple.
>>
>>> Is it possible to view Apple maps on a Pi? I normally use Google
>>> maps and wanted to see how they compare. Neither chrome nor firefox
>>> seem able to display Apple's map website on a Pi4.
>>
>> Seems like Apple Maps is not like Google Maps or Open Street Map an
>> accessible map system via browser but via own programm. I can use the
>> onboard application to view something but not Firefox e.g.
>>
>> B. Alabay
>
> I wonder how accurate they are - ISTR a few years ago they revamped
> them, and missed out quite a few significant UK cities
>

They are 100% accurate, any errors come from the user holding the device
wrong.

On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 08:04:25 +0000
mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:

> They are 100% accurate, any errors come from the user holding the device
> wrong.

Do they not contain mapmaker's copyright traps ? I'd expect that on
everything except open street map.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
For forms of government let fools contest
Whate're is best administered is best - Alexander Pope

On 22/03/2024 08:43, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 08:04:25 +0000
> mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> They are 100% accurate, any errors come from the user holding the device
>> wrong.
>
> Do they not contain mapmaker's copyright traps ? I'd expect that on
> everything except open street map.
>
Sorry Steve, I was parodying the late Jesus Jobs and his iPhone antenna
design screw up.

The original Apple Maps replaced Google Maps on Apple devices and it was
dire. As MacRumours said "At launch, Apple Maps was heavily criticized
for inaccuracies and errors, leading Tim Cook to apologize and promise
to improve the service." That was in 2012.

Does anyone really think they have not been heavily improved in the last
12 years?

On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 12:21:07 +0000
mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:

> On 22/03/2024 08:43, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 08:04:25 +0000
> > mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:
> >
> >> They are 100% accurate, any errors come from the user holding the
> >> device wrong.
> >
> > Do they not contain mapmaker's copyright traps ? I'd expect
> > that on everything except open street map.
> >
> Sorry Steve, I was parodying the late Jesus Jobs and his iPhone antenna
> design screw up.

<grin>

> Does anyone really think they have not been heavily improved in the last
> 12 years?

Last time I used Apple Maps as a splat nav I found it to be
sufficiently accurate for the wbo and to provide better turn-by-turn than
google, identifying turns by features - roundabout, T-junction, lights .. -
where google just gives distances.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
For forms of government let fools contest
Whate're is best administered is best - Alexander Pope

"BasarAlabay" <alabay@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:utimnv$2hlnl$1@dont-email.me...
> bp@www.zefox.net wrote on 03.22.2024, 02:08 h:
>
>> I just tried to look at Apple maps (maps.apple.com) on my RasPiOS
>> machine and got nothing but advertising from the Apple store.
>
> Same here on an Apple.
>
>> Is it possible to view Apple maps on a Pi? I normally use Google
>> maps and wanted to see how they compare. Neither chrome nor firefox
>> seem able to display Apple's map website on a Pi4.
>
> Seems like Apple Maps is not like Google Maps or Open Street Map an
> accessible map system via browser but via own programm. I can use the
> onboard application to view something but not Firefox e.g.

Good old Apple. If there's an established way of doing something (a map that
can be displayed in any browser on any OS) they will do it a different way
and lock people in to having to install an app, even if it is accessed via a
web site.