I want to force Seamonkey to do the following:

1. Display all messages only as plain text with HTML prohibited;

2. Compose only as plain text with HTML prohibited;

3. Enforce the exact same, uniform font and font size for all message
and composer views.

Exactly how may I achieve this?

G.K.

In article <udcrv2$1f1nd$1@paganini.bofh.team>, g@k.invalid says...
>
> I want to force Seamonkey to do the following:
>
> 1. Display all messages only as plain text with HTML prohibited;
>
> 2. Compose only as plain text with HTML prohibited;
>
> 3. Enforce the exact same, uniform font and font size for all message
> and composer views.
>
> Exactly how may I achieve this?
>
> G.K.

Use a MINITEL

G.K. wrote on 8/9/23 2:03 am:
> I want to force Seamonkey to do the following:
>
> 1. Display all messages only as plain text with HTML prohibited;

View -> Message body as -> Plain Text.

> 2. Compose only as plain text with HTML prohibited;

(For each account concerned) Edit -> Composition & Addressing ->
Composition.

Make sure "Compose messages in HTML format is *not* selected.

> 3. Enforce the exact same, uniform font and font size for all message
> and composer views.

You can *not* set what font or font size other people choose to use when
they compose, just what you use when composing.

> Exactly how may I achieve this?
>
> G.K.

HTH.
--
Daniel

On 09/07/2023 09:40 PM, Daniel65 wrote:
> G.K. wrote on 8/9/23 2:03 am:
>> I want to force Seamonkey to do the following:
>>
>> 1. Display all messages only as plain text with HTML prohibited;
>
> View -> Message body as -> Plain Text.
>
>> 2. Compose only as plain text with HTML prohibited;
>
> (For each account concerned) Edit -> Composition & Addressing ->
> Composition.
>
> Make sure "Compose messages in HTML format is *not* selected.
>
>> 3. Enforce the exact same, uniform font and font size for all message
>> and composer views.
>
> You can *not* set what font or font size other people choose to use when
> they compose, just what you use when composing.

BUT?
Isn't there a way to force a _minimum_ font size when _displaying_
mail/news?
C.F Edit->Preferences->Appearance->Fonts->Minimum font size

I know that I did something [What is long forgotten] that causes
mail/news to be displayed [currently] with the same font size that I
_was_ using back then for web pages.

>
>> Exactly how may I achieve this?
>>
>> G.K.
>
> HTH.

Richard Owlett wrote on 8/9/23 8:55 pm:
> On 09/07/2023 09:40 PM, Daniel65 wrote:
>> G.K. wrote on 8/9/23 2:03 am:
>>> I want to force Seamonkey to do the following:
>>>
>>> 1. Display all messages only as plain text with HTML prohibited;
>>
>> View -> Message body as -> Plain Text.
>>
>>> 2. Compose only as plain text with HTML prohibited;
>>
>> (For each account concerned) Edit -> Composition & Addressing ->
>> Composition.
>>
>> Make sure "Compose messages in HTML format is *not* selected.
>>
>>> 3. Enforce the exact same, uniform font and font size for all
>>> message and composer views.
>>
>> You can *not* set what font or font size other people choose to use
>> when they compose, just what you use when composing.
>
> BUT? Isn't there a way to force a _minimum_ font size when
> _displaying_ mail/news? C.F
> Edit->Preferences->Appearance->Fonts->Minimum font size
>
> I know that I did something [What is long forgotten] that causes
> mail/news to be displayed [currently] with the same font size that I
> _was_ using back then for web pages.

Ah!! Yes, correct as far as *minimum* size is concerned. ;-P

>>> Exactly how may I achieve this?
>>>
>>> G.K.
>>
>> HTH.
> --
Daniel

On 07/09/2023 17:03, G.K. wrote:
> I want to force Seamonkey to do the following:
>
> 1. Display all messages only as plain text with HTML prohibited;
>
> 2. Compose only as plain text with HTML prohibited;
>
> 3. Enforce the exact same, uniform font and font size for all message
> and composer views.
>
> Exactly how may I achieve this?

For 1, use the mailnews.display settings (prefer_plaintext: false,
html_as: 1) shown in this old post below, via about:config.

For 2, use the setting as described by Daniel65

> (For each account concerned) Edit -> Composition & Addressing -> Composition.
>
> Make sure "Compose messages in HTML format is *not* selected.
For 3, as you did 1, you will only get the font that you set via
Preferences>Mail & Newsgroups>Message Display and
Preferences>Appearance>Fonts>Monospace.

/df

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Reading email as plain text
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 16:20:54 +0000
From: Dirk Fieldhouse <surname@gmx.net.removethisandtherest.example.com>
Organisation: Speaking personally
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.seamonkey

For those who like to read email in plain text, with actual link URLs
exposed, etc, SM (and TB, though maybe not in the GUI of recent versions
- I haven't checked) offer more facilities than you might think.

From the SM GUI (View>Message Body As...) you can choose to view
messages as Plaintext, Simple HTML, or Original HTML. This is a global
setting; sadly, changing it in separate message window persists across
the whole application.

One might wonder what "Simple HTML" is. The details are explained by the
developer <https://www.bucksch.org/1/projects/mozilla/108153/> (expired
cert):

In the table below, "html_as" specified the transformation applied to
the HTML part, and "disallow_mime_handlers" specifies the stringency of
stripping potentially nasty content from the HTML, unless overridden by
a higher global setting.

> UI option pref values (mailnews.display.*)
> prefer_plaintext html_as disallow_mime_handlers
> Original HTML false 0 0 (no HTML)
> Simple HTML false 3 1 (strip using built-in list)
> Plaintext true 1 1

Ben explains that "Simple HTML" is generated by converting the "Original
HTML" to plain text with a sort of Markdown-like formatting and then
converting it back to HTML. The aim is to strip out potentially
dangerous links. The conversion process is described here
<https://www.bucksch.org/1/projects/mozilla/16507/>.

This is great, but there's one issue. A lot of corporate email comes
with a deliberately useless plaintext alternative part that says
something like "To show this message as we want, open this link in your
browser". In such a case one would like to force the display of the HTML
part as converted to plaintext, but (apart from manually deleting the
plaintext part using an add-on like "Header Tools Lite") the only option
in the GUI is to switch to Simple HTML to read the email, and then back
again. The add-on "Allow HTML Temp" used to enable a one-time switch but
no longer works in 2.53.10+.

Ben explains that there is a config option combination to help:

mailnews.display.
prefer_plaintext false
html_as 1

With these settings an HTML alternative part, if present, should be
shown after converting to formatted plain text; otherwise the plaintext
part should be shown. This works just as if the plaintext alternative to
an HTML part was deleted.

Now the problem is that the GUI doesn't recognise this combination of
settings, which gets nuked if one of the "View>Message Body As" options
is selected.

....

--
London
UK

On 2023-09-08, Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 09/07/2023 09:40 PM, Daniel65 wrote:
>> G.K. wrote on 8/9/23 2:03 am:
>>> I want to force Seamonkey to do the following:
>>>
>>> 1. Display all messages only as plain text with HTML prohibited;
>>
>> View -> Message body as -> Plain Text.
>>
>>> 2. Compose only as plain text with HTML prohibited;
>>
>> (For each account concerned) Edit -> Composition & Addressing ->
>> Composition.
>>
>> Make sure "Compose messages in HTML format is *not* selected.
>>
>>> 3. Enforce the exact same, uniform font and font size for all
>>> message and composer views.
>>
>> You can *not* set what font or font size other people choose to use
>> when they compose, just what you use when composing.
>
> BUT?
> Isn't there a way to force a _minimum_ font size when _displaying_
> mail/news?
> C.F Edit->Preferences->Appearance->Fonts->Minimum font size

A note: I think this actually ends up being

Edit->Preferences->Appearance->
Fonts->*Encoding*->Minimum font size

That is, depending on the drop-down box selection, the settings may be
different. Look for font.minimum-size in about:config to see the
different minimum font size settings (about:config may actually be the
best way to compare this setting for all encodings at once?).

Then, even if the message body is being displayed as plain text, the
font and its size may depend on the message body encoding, if there are
different font settings for different encodings.

> I know that I did something [What is long forgotten] that causes
> mail/news to be displayed [currently] with the same font size that I
> _was_ using back then for web pages.

--
Nuno Silva