I've been using the OS
Pi OS Lite Dec 11th 2023 since it came out. It was fine.

Today after installing it I did the usual:
sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade

I got an absolute torrent of updates/upgrades and now my MediaPlayer
system does not function at all. It should have a web server for
setting etc. and a player that should be vissible from open home apps
but nothing.

It looks as though neither components is even starting.

Once added in to the builds are these updates permanent or do they
sometimes cause issues and get pulled?

Thanks.

Bob.

On 19/02/2024 14:35, Bob Latham wrote:
> I've been using the OS
> Pi OS Lite Dec 11th 2023 since it came out. It was fine.
>
> Today after installing it I did the usual:
> sudo apt update
> sudo apt upgrade
>
> I got an absolute torrent of updates/upgrades and now my MediaPlayer
> system does not function at all. It should have a web server for
> setting etc. and a player that should be vissible from open home apps
> but nothing.
>
> It looks as though neither components is even starting.
>
> Once added in to the builds are these updates permanent or do they
> sometimes cause issues and get pulled?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob.
>
>

A bit like what happened to me upgrading TO that release. (Dec 11th 2023)

Before I break MY system, will a *fresh* install plus full updates work?

--
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twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a
globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and,
on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer
projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to
contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

Richard Lindzen

In article <5b352dbbf6bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> It looks as though neither components is even starting.

Sorry to reply to myself.

As neither the web server or the player start up I started to think
about Java, I think both are Java apps.

In the past I used java 11 with the command:

sudo apt install openjdk-11-jdk

That has stopped working, it gives the error:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
ca-certificates-java : Breaks: openjdk-11-jre-headless (<
11.0.19+7~1~) but 11.0.17+8-2 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

So I found another install command.
sudo apt install default-jdk

Which installed Java 17 with error but is it a good replacement?

Does this look like it might be the issue?

Thanks.

Bob.

On 19/02/2024 15:33, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <5b352dbbf6bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> It looks as though neither components is even starting.

First try starting the program from a terminal window (edit the main
menu entry to find the command name if you don't know it), there will
often be a very obvious error displayed.

Failing that in a terminal do a
tail -f /var/log/syslog
Then start the program again.

> sudo apt install openjdk-11-jdk
>
> That has stopped working, it gives the error:

jdk-11 is end of life

> So I found another install command.
> sudo apt install default-jdk
>
> Which installed Java 17 with error but is it a good replacement?

Yes, there should be very little hasn't been updated to work with that.

> Does this look like it might be the issue?

You need to tell us, see above.

---druck

In article <ur099n$217o0$1@dont-email.me>,
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
> On 19/02/2024 15:33, Bob Latham wrote:
> > In article <5b352dbbf6bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
> > Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> It looks as though neither components is even starting.

> First try starting the program from a terminal window (edit the
> main menu entry to find the command name if you don't know it),
> there will often be a very obvious error displayed.

Right, I'm hoping that a putty window is sufficient but certainly no
error when the manual start command is issued.

sudo /home/pi/mediaplayer/run.sh

> Failing that in a terminal do a
> tail -f /var/log/syslog

pi@LinnPi-base1:~/mediaplayer/scripts/systemd $ tail -f
/var/log/syslog
tail: cannot open '/var/log/syslog' for reading: No such file or
directory
tail: no files remaining

There is a file mediaplayer.log but I cannot see a way to get this
public so you can have a look.

> Then start the program again.

Still nothing unfortunately.

> > sudo apt install openjdk-11-jdk
> >
> > That has stopped working, it gives the error:

> jdk-11 is end of life

Oh right.

> > So I found another install command.
> > sudo apt install default-jdk
> >
> > Which installed Java 17 with error but is it a good replacement?

Brain got ahead of fingers there. There was NO error.

> Yes, there should be very little hasn't been updated to work with
> that.

Oh dear. I would not be surprised if MediaPlayer has not been updated.

> > Does this look like it might be the issue?

> You need to tell us, see above.

Thanks.

Bob.

In article <5b35330dcfbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <5b352dbbf6bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> > It looks as though neither components is even starting.

> Sorry to reply to myself.

Again.

My player builds are done in blocks, the idea is that it helps a
little with testing if you don't have to go back to the start every
time. After each block is added, I save back the SD card.

Block01 working operating system with updates.
Block02 Block01 + working Samba.
Block03 Block02 + mpd + java
block04 Block03 + media Player

So as Java looks a strong possibility I cleaned an SD card and
installed Block02 from January build. All fine.

Tried to install mpd.
No it's not having any of it.

E: Failed to fetch
http://raspbian.raspberrypi.com/raspbian/pool/main/libs/libssh/libssh-gcrypt-4_0.10.5-2_armhf.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 93.93.128.193 80]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try
with --fix-sing?

So changes have been made and things are really broken for me now.

Fortunately, I still have the working blocks from january although on
block 04 is of any use apparently.

Bob.

In article <5b354e23adbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> pi@LinnPi-base1:~/mediaplayer/scripts/systemd $ tail -f
> /var/log/syslog
> tail: cannot open '/var/log/syslog' for reading: No such file or
> directory
> tail: no files remaining

> There is a file mediaplayer.log but I cannot see a way to get this
> public so you can have a look.

Okay, if anyone would be interested enough to look at the mediaplayer
log that would be great, thanks.

it's now at..

http://www.mightyoak.org.uk/raspi/mediaplayer.txt

had to change the type to txt from log which the web server didn't
like and I've no idea why that pie thought it was summer time.

Thanks.

Bob.

On 19/02/2024 20:29, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <ur099n$217o0$1@dont-email.me>,
> druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
>> Failing that in a terminal do a
>> tail -f /var/log/syslog
>
> pi@LinnPi-base1:~/mediaplayer/scripts/systemd $ tail -f
> /var/log/syslog
> tail: cannot open '/var/log/syslog' for reading: No such file or
> directory
> tail: no files remaining

FFS you've got one infested with systemd's journald and no rsyslog
installed - in which case god help you.

---druck

On 19/02/2024 20:29, Bob Latham wrote:
> sudo /home/pi/mediaplayer/run.sh

You shouldn't need to run a mediaplayer as root, it is not a good thing
to do.

---druck

Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> E: Failed to fetch
> http://raspbian.raspberrypi.com/raspbian/pool/main/libs/libssh/libssh-gcrypt-4_0.10.5-2_armhf.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 93.93.128.193 80]

From your log:

2024-02-19 16:05:39,769 [main] ERROR [org.rpi.mpdplayer.TCPConnector] java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused
2024-02-19 16:05:39,770 [Thread-0] ERROR [org.rpi.mpdplayer.TCPConnector] java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused
2024-02-19 16:05:39,774 [main] ERROR [org.rpi.mpdplayer.TCPConnector] java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused

Is there something wrong with networking on your Pi? Can you
ping google.com?

It looks like you've configured this URL:

[org.rpi.config.Config] 'pins_service_url' : 'http://192.168.1.205:8088/PinServiceManager1/webapi/broadcast'

I don't know what it does, but can you ping that IP (192.168.1.205)?

Theo

In article <9Nn*5wuDz@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> > E: Failed to fetch

> > http://raspbian.raspberrypi.com/raspbian/pool/main/libs/libssh/libssh-gcrypt-4_0.10.5-2_armhf.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 93.93.128.193 80]

> From your log:

> Is there something wrong with networking on your Pi?

I don't think so.

> Can you ping google.com?

Yes, no problem.

> It looks like you've configured this URL:

> [org.rpi.config.Config] 'pins_service_url' :
> 'http://192.168.1.205:8088/PinServiceManager1/webapi/broadcast'

> I don't know what it does,

Neither do I. Pins is something I keep seeing mentioned in the Linn
control app but I've never understood what it is, I've ignored it for
years.

> but can you ping that IP (192.168.1.205)?

No, there is nothing there.

I manage IP addresses from the router and IPs:
02 to 99 are managed for various fixed devices.
from 240 upwards is for NAS boxes and printers.

From 100 to 239 is not managed and is just for things which
temporarily get plugged in with random allocation. So I've no idea
what gave rise to the 202 address.

Do you think I should try to find where that is configured and remove
it? Or, try and stop the usage of it.

Thanks.

Bob.

In article <ur32vu$2m7la$1@dont-email.me>,
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

> FFS you've got one infested with systemd's journald and no rsyslog
> installed - in which case god help you.

That's comforting. :-)

Bob.

In article <ur34lh$2mguh$1@dont-email.me>,
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
> On 19/02/2024 20:29, Bob Latham wrote:
> > sudo /home/pi/mediaplayer/run.sh

> You shouldn't need to run a mediaplayer as root, it is not a good thing
> to do.

I get that.

Bob.

On 20/02/2024 09:58, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <5b354e23adbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> pi@LinnPi-base1:~/mediaplayer/scripts/systemd $ tail -f
>> /var/log/syslog
>> tail: cannot open '/var/log/syslog' for reading: No such file or
>> directory
>> tail: no files remaining
>
>> There is a file mediaplayer.log but I cannot see a way to get this
>> public so you can have a look.
>
> Okay, if anyone would be interested enough to look at the mediaplayer
> log that would be great, thanks.
>
> it's now at..
>
> http://www.mightyoak.org.uk/raspi/mediaplayer.txt
>

In the log, why is FATAL being used like INFO?

It makes me wonder what level of support this app gets, if the answer is
very little, is it worth the effort?

There are very good media players for the rPi like mpv. What does this
app give you?

In article <ur4nu5$34044$1@dont-email.me>,
Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote:

> In the log, why is FATAL being used like INFO?

I've no idea. :-)

> It makes me wonder what level of support this app gets, if the
> answer is very little,

I think that is the answer yes.

> is it worth the effort?

It's as near a perfect match for my needs as I'll get.

> There are very good media players for the rPi like mpv. What does
> this app give you?

Plays music from MinimServer UPnP server.
Also radio streams indexed from a play list on MinimServer.
In essence that's it but the extra bonus is that it's an openhome
player.

For my main hifi system I use a Linn streamer which has it's own apps
which work with any openhome players so the same control point for
all my players.

I did look briefly at volumio but the control point (when I looked)
was quite basic, it was mostly text rather than graphical.

Bob.

On 21/02/2024 12:20, Bob Latham wrote:

>
> Plays music from MinimServer UPnP server.
> Also radio streams indexed from a play list on MinimServer.
> In essence that's it but the extra bonus is that it's an openhome
> player.
>
> For my main hifi system I use a Linn streamer which has it's own apps
> which work with any openhome players so the same control point for
> all my players.
>
> I did look briefly at volumio but the control point (when I looked)
> was quite basic, it was mostly text rather than graphical.
>

Fair enough, I never got into the home streaming idea. I just have NAS
and play music and video on the rPi, like I would on a normal PC.

In article <ur099n$217o0$1@dont-email.me>,
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
> On 19/02/2024 15:33, Bob Latham wrote:
> > In article <5b352dbbf6bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
> > Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> > sudo apt install openjdk-11-jdk
> >
> > That has stopped working, it gives the error:

> jdk-11 is end of life

> > So I found another install command.
> > sudo apt install default-jdk
> >
> > Which installed Java 17 with error but is it a good replacement?

> Yes, there should be very little hasn't been updated to work with that.

> > Does this look like it might be the issue?

> You need to tell us, see above.

Just in case anyone is interested in how this worked out. I'm not
fully conversant with it but in general...

The author wrote the application to work on several platforms and in
order to make that work he set the PATH required dynamically.
Unfortunately, Java 17 stopped his method of doing that working.
That's what he told me.

So he gave me a fix just for the pi.

In two files, run.sh and run_systemd.sh I had to add the single line:

export
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:$SCRIPTPATH/mediaplayer_lib/ohNet/linux/armv6hf

That fixed the problem for me.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Cheers,

Bob.