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* Linux 6.7.4vallor
+* Re: Linux 6.7.4Chris Ahlstrom
|`* Re: Linux 6.7.4RonB
| `* Re: Linux 6.7.4rbowman
|  `- Re: Linux 6.7.4RonB
`* Re: Linux 6.7.4Farley Flud
 +- Re: Linux 6.7.4Joel
 `- Re: Linux 6.7.4DFS

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Linux 6.7.4

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From: vallor@cultnix.org (vallor)
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Subject: Linux 6.7.4
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 by: vallor - Wed, 7 Feb 2024 07:10 UTC

$ uname -a
Linux lm 6.7.4 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Feb 6 17:58:05 PST 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Started with the low-latency config I had, then ran

$ make oldconfig

Then, after going through all the new settings in the kernel,

$ make menuconfig

and tweaked the settings.

Then:

$ make
$ sudo make modules_install
$ sudo make install

One "gotcha" to look out for:

When booting this kernel, NVidia drivers
didn't load. Had to download the binary blob
and run it...

I recommend having the file on-hand if
you're going to try this at home.

Peace out.

--
-v

Re: Linux 6.7.4

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From: OFeem1987@teleworm.us (Chris Ahlstrom)
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Subject: Re: Linux 6.7.4
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 by: Chris Ahlstrom - Wed, 7 Feb 2024 11:55 UTC

vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> $ uname -a
> Linux lm 6.7.4 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Feb 6 17:58:05 PST 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Arch Linux rolling update:

Linux mlsleno 6.7.1-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun, 21 Jan 2024 22:14:10
+0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Good enough fer gummint work!

> Started with the low-latency config I had, then ran
>
> $ make oldconfig
>
> Then, after going through all the new settings in the kernel,
>
> $ make menuconfig
>
> and tweaked the settings.
>
> Then:
>
> $ make
> $ sudo make modules_install
> $ sudo make install
>
> One "gotcha" to look out for:
>
> When booting this kernel, NVidia drivers
> didn't load. Had to download the binary blob
> and run it...
>
> I recommend having the file on-hand if
> you're going to try this at home.
>
> Peace out.

:-)

--
You are going to have a new love affair.

Re: Linux 6.7.4

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From: ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com (RonB)
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Subject: Re: Linux 6.7.4
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 by: RonB - Wed, 7 Feb 2024 19:10 UTC

On 2024-02-07, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> $ uname -a
>> Linux lm 6.7.4 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Feb 6 17:58:05 PST 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> Arch Linux rolling update:
>
> Linux mlsleno 6.7.1-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun, 21 Jan 2024 22:14:10
> +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> Good enough fer gummint work!

My Fedora 39 laptop installed 6.7.3-200 yesterday. I wonder if there's a new
kernel today? I don't know if I like living on the "edge."

Just checked, nope, no kernel updates today...yet. No updates at all — this
is a first — but the day is not over.

>> Started with the low-latency config I had, then ran
>>
>> $ make oldconfig
>>
>> Then, after going through all the new settings in the kernel,
>>
>> $ make menuconfig
>>
>> and tweaked the settings.
>>
>> Then:
>>
>> $ make
>> $ sudo make modules_install
>> $ sudo make install
>>
>> One "gotcha" to look out for:
>>
>> When booting this kernel, NVidia drivers
>> didn't load. Had to download the binary blob
>> and run it...
>>
>> I recommend having the file on-hand if
>> you're going to try this at home.
>>
>> Peace out.
>
>:-)
>

--
"Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good."
-- Archbishop Charles J. Chaput

Re: Linux 6.7.4

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 by: Farley Flud - Wed, 7 Feb 2024 21:32 UTC

On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 07:10:16 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:

> $ uname -a
> Linux lm 6.7.4 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Feb 6 17:58:05 PST 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>

Well, good. But did you strip out all the useless (for a desktop)
kernel security "mitigations?" They ARE a serious impediment to
overall performance.

Furthermore, all your user-space, especially glibc, software should
also be built sans ridiculous security.

Furthermore again, all your user-space software should be optimized
for your specific processor, and especially CACHE OPTIMIZATION.

I have achieved a performance increase of up to 37% with such
optimizations. They are NOT an illusion.

The common Linux distros, like Microshaft, waste processor cycles
on useless security and generic suppositions.

One of my "ancient" i7-4770 machines can beat any bleeding-edge
modern hardware because of such optimization.

GNU/Linux *is* the greatest.

But distro lackeys, like you, will never know it.

Re: Linux 6.7.4

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 by: Joel - Wed, 7 Feb 2024 23:06 UTC

Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

>all your user-space software should be optimized
>for your specific processor, and especially CACHE OPTIMIZATION.
>
>I have achieved a performance increase of up to 37% with such
>optimizations. They are NOT an illusion.
>
>The common Linux distros, like Microshaft, waste processor cycles
>on useless security and generic suppositions.
>
>One of my "ancient" i7-4770 machines can beat any bleeding-edge
>modern hardware because of such optimization.
>
>GNU/Linux *is* the greatest.
>
>But distro lackeys, like you, will never know it.

You're not really wrong, but using a generic distro's binary release,
of its complete OS, does function well enough, it's not any different
than in Winblows, they don't have different versions for different
CPUs.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Re: Linux 6.7.4

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 by: rbowman - Thu, 8 Feb 2024 01:17 UTC

On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 19:10:51 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> My Fedora 39 laptop installed 6.7.3-200 yesterday. I wonder if there's a
> new kernel today? I don't know if I like living on the "edge."
>
> Just checked, nope, no kernel updates today...yet. No updates at all —
> this is a first — but the day is not over.

I must have missed a day -- I'm getting 6.7.3-200 now along with some mesa
stuff. Quit your bithcing, you could be on Rawhide:

"Be willing to update on an almost daily basis. Rawhide gets hundreds of
updates a day, and applying those updates on a regular basis allows you to
more easily isolate when a bug appeared and what package(s) are
responsible."

Fedora is downstream of Rawhide -- slightly.

Re: Linux 6.7.4

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 by: RonB - Thu, 8 Feb 2024 01:55 UTC

On 2024-02-08, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 19:10:51 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> My Fedora 39 laptop installed 6.7.3-200 yesterday. I wonder if there's a
>> new kernel today? I don't know if I like living on the "edge."
>>
>> Just checked, nope, no kernel updates today...yet. No updates at all —
>> this is a first — but the day is not over.
>
> I must have missed a day -- I'm getting 6.7.3-200 now along with some mesa
> stuff. Quit your bithcing, you could be on Rawhide:
>
> "Be willing to update on an almost daily basis. Rawhide gets hundreds of
> updates a day, and applying those updates on a regular basis allows you to
> more easily isolate when a bug appeared and what package(s) are
> responsible."
>
> Fedora is downstream of Rawhide -- slightly.

Even more than Fedora? And speaking of Fedora, I just checked again for
updates — still none. Everyone call in sick at Fedora today? This has to be
a first.

--
"Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good."
-- Archbishop Charles J. Chaput

Re: Linux 6.7.4

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 by: DFS - Thu, 8 Feb 2024 12:25 UTC

On 2/7/2024 4:32 PM, Lame Larry wrote:

> I have achieved a performance increase of up to 37% with such
> optimizations.

On ONE synthetic benchmark.

> They are NOT an illusion.

Your performance claims are extremely illusory.

The people that have actually compared the performance of stock binaries
to "optimization" report very small avg gains - usually 1%, sometimes up
to 5%.

ahferroin7
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gentoo/comments/10rs5ql/is_a_source_distribution_faster_than_a_binary_one/

When asked to test a real-world usage scenario I wrote (involving
SQLite), you whined and ran away because you knew the result wouldn't
support your babbling.

> One of my "ancient" i7-4770 machines can beat any bleeding-edge
> modern hardware because of such optimization.

Beat it at what?

Like I've been telling you and other crazed "advocates" for years: Prove
your ludicrous claims, or quit making them.

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