Greetings GNU/Linux enthusiasts.

Today, the best GNU/Linux distro, Gentoo, automagically downloaded,
configured, and compiled from the source code, according to my
strict specifications, the following packages:

netsurf-buildsystem
pkgconf
re2c
c-ares
cpuid2cpuflags
libnsgif
dev-lang/mujs
xz-utils
myspell-en
libreoffice-l10n
sys-libs/zlib
dev-libs/gumbo
media-libs/exiftool
net-misc/curl
mdds
dev-libs/nss
libixion
liborcus
dev-ruby/minitest
dev-ruby/io-console
dev-ruby/rbs
dev-ruby/irbnetsurf-buildsystem
pkgconf
re2c
c-ares
cpuid2cpuflags
libnsgif
dev-lang/mujs
xz-utils
myspell-en
libreoffice-l10n
sys-libs/zlib
dev-libs/gumbo
media-libs/exiftool
net-misc/curl
mdds
dev-libs/nss
libixion
liborcus
dev-ruby/minitest
dev-ruby/io-console
dev-ruby/rbs
dev-ruby/irb
meson
dev-libs/libxml2
dev-python/markupsafe
glib-utils
gdbus-codegen
dev-python/mako
libplacebo
dev-debug/gdb
gentoolkit
media-libs/glm
dev-cpp/eigen
dev-python/cryptography
dev-python/pluggy
dev-libs/protobuf
media-libs/assimp
media-sound/mac
dev-python/hatchling
app-text/libetonyek
pydantic-core
pyopenssl
pydantic
mesa
'=glib-2.78.4-r1'
app-misc/mc
gtk-update-icon-cache
app-text/ghostscript-gpl
app-text/mupdf
ffmpeg
'=gtk+-3.24.40'
'=gtk-4.12.5'
libreoffice
meson
dev-libs/libxml2
dev-python/markupsafe
glib-utils
gdbus-codegen
dev-python/mako
libplacebo
dev-debug/gdb
gentoolkit
media-libs/glm
dev-cpp/eigen
dev-python/cryptography
dev-python/pluggy
dev-libs/protobuf
media-libs/assimp
media-sound/mac
dev-python/hatchling
app-text/libetonyek
pydantic-core
pyopenssl
pydantic
mesa
'=glib-2.78.4-r1'
app-misc/mc
gtk-update-icon-cache
app-text/ghostscript-gpl
app-text/mupdf
ffmpeg
'=gtk+-3.24.40'
'=gtk-4.12.5'
libreoffice

Note how libixion and liborcus, which are responsible for alien
spreadsheet imports, like Microslop Exhell, have caused libreoffice
to be rebuilt.

How much time was required for this wondrous feat?

I cannot ascertain.

I drank a two big cups of Carlo Rossi Merlot, got on my treadmill,
and ran two miles on a 10 degree slope. When I was finished, it was
all over.

Note also all those fucking python modules. I don't use that junk
but something else pulls it in. With python, one requires a separate
module just to convert a character from lower space to upper case.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Gentoo is for REAL GNU/Linux users.

All the phonies use Ubuntu/Mint/Arch/Fedora.

On 1/27/2024 2:53 PM, Lameass Larry wrote:

> Today, the best GNU/Linux distro, Gentoo, automagically downloaded,

Python isn't magic.

> configured, and compiled from the source code, according to my
> strict specifications, the following packages:

> '=glib-2.78.4-r1'
> '=glib-2.78.4-r1'
> '=gtk+-3.24.40'
> '=gtk+-3.24.40'
> '=gtk-4.12.5'
> '=gtk-4.12.5'
> app-misc/mc
> app-misc/mc
> app-text/ghostscript-gpl
> app-text/ghostscript-gpl
> app-text/libetonyek
> app-text/libetonyek
> app-text/mupdf
> app-text/mupdf
> c-ares
> c-ares
> cpuid2cpuflags
> cpuid2cpuflags
> dev-cpp/eigen
> dev-cpp/eigen
> dev-debug/gdb
> dev-debug/gdb
> dev-lang/mujs
> dev-lang/mujs
> dev-libs/gumbo
> dev-libs/gumbo
> dev-libs/libxml2
> dev-libs/libxml2
> dev-libs/nss
> dev-libs/nss
> dev-libs/protobuf
> dev-libs/protobuf
> dev-python/cryptography
> dev-python/cryptography
> dev-python/hatchling
> dev-python/hatchling
> dev-python/mako
> dev-python/mako
> dev-python/markupsafe
> dev-python/markupsafe
> dev-python/pluggy
> dev-python/pluggy
> dev-ruby/io-console
> dev-ruby/io-console
> dev-ruby/irb
> dev-ruby/irbnetsurf-buildsystem
> dev-ruby/minitest
> dev-ruby/minitest
> dev-ruby/rbs
> dev-ruby/rbs
> ffmpeg
> ffmpeg
> gdbus-codegen
> gdbus-codegen
> gentoolkit
> gentoolkit
> glib-utils
> glib-utils
> gtk-update-icon-cache
> gtk-update-icon-cache
> libixion
> libixion
> libnsgif
> libnsgif
> liborcus
> liborcus
> libplacebo
> libplacebo
> libreoffice
> libreoffice
> libreoffice-l10n
> libreoffice-l10n
> mdds
> mdds
> media-libs/assimp
> media-libs/assimp
> media-libs/exiftool
> media-libs/exiftool
> media-libs/glm
> media-libs/glm
> media-sound/mac
> media-sound/mac
> mesa
> mesa
> meson
> meson
> myspell-en
> myspell-en
> net-misc/curl
> net-misc/curl
> netsurf-buildsystem
> pkgconf
> pkgconf
> pydantic
> pydantic
> pydantic-core
> pydantic-core
> pyopenssl
> pyopenssl
> re2c
> re2c
> sys-libs/zlib
> sys-libs/zlib
> xz-utils
> xz-utils

Nearly everything is duplicated? BWA! GuhNoo crapware at work.

And what's wrong with all that untested hobby crapware such that you get
a new version every few weeks?

> I drank a two big cups of Carlo Rossi Merlot,

Wine is for women and gender-confused males.

Merlot is for bull dykes trying to be feminine.

> got on my treadmill,
> and ran two miles on a 10 degree slope. When I was finished, it was
> all over.
>
> Note also all those fucking python modules. I don't use that junk
> but something else pulls it in. With python, one requires a separate
> module just to convert a character from lower space to upper case.

lower space to upper case?

Linux makes you stupid.

Le 31-01-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
>
> Nearly everything is duplicated?

Yes.

> BWA! GuhNoo crapware at work.

No, LP/DG/NV/whatever management. You put anything into his hands, it
results in garbage. You can blame others for LB/DG/NV/FF/FR errors.

> And what's wrong with all that untested hobby crapware such that you get
> a new version every few weeks?

By itself, it's not a bad thing. To have a few improvement each week and
you don't need to wait for the rare big improvement.

>> I drank a two big cups of Carlo Rossi Merlot,
>
> Wine is for women and gender-confused males.

No, wine can be very good. If you believe disgusting alcohol is for real
men, some wine could suit you. Some cheap bad wine can taste like vinegar.

> Linux makes you stupid.

He's a Windows user pretending to be a Linux user.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

>Linux makes you stupid.

Any OS can be used stupidly, including Winblows. I made Windows,
macOS and Linux all look sharp.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>> Linux makes you stupid.
>
>
> Any OS can be used stupidly, including Winblows. I made Windows,
> macOS and Linux all look sharp.
>
it doesn't change how you look here at all

% <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
>Joel wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Linux makes you stupid.
>>
>> Any OS can be used stupidly, including Winblows. I made Windows,
>> macOS and Linux all look sharp.
>>
>it doesn't change how you look here at all

And?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote:
> % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Joel wrote:
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Linux makes you stupid.
>>>
>>> Any OS can be used stupidly, including Winblows. I made Windows,
>>> macOS and Linux all look sharp.
>>>
>> it doesn't change how you look here at all
>
>
> And?
>
what and , you said you made these os's look sharp and ,
they don't look any different when you post at all
so whatever you did was a waste there's no change

On 2/2/2024 6:13 PM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 31-01-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
>>
>> Nearly everything is duplicated?
>
> Yes.
>
>> BWA! GuhNoo crapware at work.
>
> No, LP/DG/NV/whatever management. You put anything into his hands, it
> results in garbage. You can blame others for LB/DG/NV/FF/FR errors.

You think it was a Feeb mistake to dbl-paste a list? I think it was his
crapware. Note: I sorted the list - he always posts it unsorted.

>> And what's wrong with all that untested hobby crapware such that you get
>> a new version every few weeks?
>
> By itself, it's not a bad thing. To have a few improvement each week and
> you don't need to wait for the rare big improvement.

A few years ago I installed OpenSuse Tumbleweed, a rolling distro. These
were the update counts:

Day 0: install

Day 12: "You have 404 new updates"
"Successfully updated 404 packages"

Day 20: "You have 618 new updates"
"Successfully updated 618 packages"

That's 1022 updates in 20 days = 51 per day = insanity

>>> I drank a two big cups of Carlo Rossi Merlot,
>>
>> Wine is for women and gender-confused males.
>
> No, wine can be very good. If you believe disgusting alcohol is for real
> men,

In high school we would do shots and drink whiskey and gin and vokda
straight from the bottle, 'cause we were 17 and drinking was so cool.
Drinking didn't help our skateboarding, though, which we were all
serious about.

> some wine could suit you. Some cheap bad wine can taste like vinegar.

I've tried for decades to find a wine that tastes good. I've probably
tried 30 wines. In Napa CA I went to several wineries and did tastings,
and virtually every bit of the swill was disgusting.

The closest I got to a palatable one was a plum wine (because it was
sweet). But I gave up on wine many years ago.

Beer is so good. Hot day, cold day, with or without food, doesn't
matter. Not all beers, of course. Best beer I ever had was at a Hotel
Schweizer Stuben in Germany - guess it was a house brand.

>> Linux makes you stupid.
>
> He's a Windows user pretending to be a Linux user.

I'm kinda glad Feeb can't program worth a crap. I can only imagine the
boasting and insults he would post if he were a Linux kernel hacker or
device driver or app developer.

On 2/2/2024 7:30 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>> Linux makes you stupid.
>
>
> Any OS can be used stupidly, including Winblows. I made Windows,
> macOS and Linux all look sharp.

Let's see your Linux desktop. Hope it's nicer than Feeb's.

On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 12:08:14 -0500, DFS wrote:

> Python isn't magic.

Are you sure? <https://xkcd.com/353/>

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

>>> Linux makes you stupid.
>>
>> Any OS can be used stupidly, including Winblows. I made Windows,
>> macOS and Linux all look sharp.
>
>Let's see your Linux desktop. Hope it's nicer than Feeb's.

https://i.imgur.com/hiBVbMb.png

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

% <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> I made Windows,
>>>> macOS and Linux all look sharp.
>>>>
>>> it doesn't change how you look here at all
>>
>> And?
>>
>what and , you said you made these os's look sharp and ,
>they don't look any different when you post at all
>so whatever you did was a waste there's no change

It has nothing to do with the appearance of my Usenet posts.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote:
> % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> I made Windows,
>>>>> macOS and Linux all look sharp.
>>>>>
>>>> it doesn't change how you look here at all
>>>
>>> And?
>>>
>> what and , you said you made these os's look sharp and ,
>> they don't look any different when you post at all
>> so whatever you did was a waste there's no change
>
>
> It has nothing to do with the appearance of my Usenet posts.
>
then why did you do it and ,
why are you talking about it in usenet ,
do you think the people here care about what they can't see

On 2/2/2024 8:36 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 12:08:14 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> Python isn't magic.
>
> Are you sure? <https://xkcd.com/353/>

ha!

It's #1 on the TIOBE index, with a significant lead over C.

https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

Le 03-02-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
> On 2/2/2024 6:13 PM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> Le 31-01-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Nearly everything is duplicated?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> BWA! GuhNoo crapware at work.
>>
>> No, LP/DG/NV/whatever management. You put anything into his hands, it
>> results in garbage. You can blame others for LB/DG/NV/FF/FR errors.
>
> You think it was a Feeb mistake to dbl-paste a list? I think it was his
> crapware. Note: I sorted the list - he always posts it unsorted.

Last time he showed up, he had five versions of python on his computer.
So yes, he is unable to clean and to manage what he had installed. For
something bloated like Ubuntu or Mint, you can have a lot of useless
things without really knowing why it's there. But for light distros like
Gentoo or Arch there is no reason except the inability of its owner.

>>> And what's wrong with all that untested hobby crapware such that you get
>>> a new version every few weeks?
>>
>> By itself, it's not a bad thing. To have a few improvement each week and
>> you don't need to wait for the rare big improvement.
>
>
> A few years ago I installed OpenSuse Tumbleweed, a rolling distro. These
> were the update counts:
>
> Day 0: install
>
> Day 12: "You have 404 new updates"
> "Successfully updated 404 packages"
>
> Day 20: "You have 618 new updates"
> "Successfully updated 618 packages"
>
> That's 1022 updates in 20 days = 51 per day = insanity

You are insane if you use something you don't want. If you have a
rolling version, it's to be up to date with everything. So if you have
installed Firefox which does a version every day, you'll have an update
every day. But if you are using wget or curl which didn't really evolved
anymore, you'll have very few updates.

So if you want a rolling distro with new applications improving very
fast, you'll have a lot of updates. But it's your choice. If you want
old versions of your applications, you use something like Debian or Red
Hat.

If you can't know why you chose your distro, it's normal it doesn't suit
your needs. But it doesn't mean others don't have different needs.

> Beer is so good. Hot day, cold day, with or without food, doesn't
> matter. Not all beers, of course. Best beer I ever had was at a Hotel
> Schweizer Stuben in Germany - guess it was a house brand.

The best brands of beer are the little ones unknown outside.

>>> Linux makes you stupid.
>>
>> He's a Windows user pretending to be a Linux user.
>
> I'm kinda glad Feeb can't program worth a crap. I can only imagine the
> boasting and insults he would post if he were a Linux kernel hacker or
> device driver or app developer.

No, he wouldn't. He insults everyone because he's bad and not confident.
There is a strong correlation between mediocrity and insults. The best
guys I saw at work and in sport where never insulting and where always
ready to help other's progress. The worst ones I saw, unable to manage
anything where always the ones insulting others and blaming their
mediocrity on others.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

On 2024-02-02 19:43, DFS wrote:

>>> And what's wrong with all that untested hobby crapware such that you get
>>> a new version every few weeks?
>>
>> By itself, it's not a bad thing. To have a few improvement each week and
>> you don't need to wait for the rare big improvement.
>
>
> A few years ago I installed OpenSuse Tumbleweed, a rolling distro. These
> were the update counts:
>
> Day 0: install
>
> Day 12: "You have 404 new updates"
> "Successfully updated 404 packages"
>
> Day 20: "You have 618 new updates"
> "Successfully updated 618 packages"
>
> That's 1022 updates in 20 days = 51 per day = insanity

It's not insanity in that the operating system is made up of thousands
of packages which are all in constant evolution. However, it is certain
that you essentially faced 1,022 potential breakages in the system
because any of them might have updated to a version which would have
made other things incompatible. That's why I'm a proponent of Flatpak; I
don't want my software to be dependent on packages used by other
applications. I've lived in that world and it's shit.

Try a Linux system where all or most of your applications are Flatpaks.
I doubt you'll face any kind of issues even years later. If Excel
compatibility is so important to you, I am getting the feeling that the
open-source OnlyOffice will provide you with what you're looking for.

< snip >

--
RabidPedagog
Catholic paleoconservative
Linux Mint patron

On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 12:08:14 -0500, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
<%7vuN.139674$taff.84993@fx41.iad>:

> On 1/27/2024 2:53 PM, Lameass Larry wrote:
>
>> Today, the best GNU/Linux distro, Gentoo, automagically downloaded,
>
> Python isn't magic.
>
>
>> configured, and compiled from the source code, according to my
>> strict specifications, the following packages:
>
>> '=glib-2.78.4-r1'
>> '=glib-2.78.4-r1'
>> '=gtk+-3.24.40'
>> '=gtk+-3.24.40'
>> '=gtk-4.12.5'
>> '=gtk-4.12.5'
>> app-misc/mc
>> app-misc/mc
>> app-text/ghostscript-gpl
>> app-text/ghostscript-gpl
>> app-text/libetonyek
>> app-text/libetonyek
>> app-text/mupdf
>> app-text/mupdf
>> c-ares
>> c-ares
>> cpuid2cpuflags
>> cpuid2cpuflags
>> dev-cpp/eigen
>> dev-cpp/eigen
>> dev-debug/gdb
>> dev-debug/gdb
>> dev-lang/mujs
>> dev-lang/mujs
>> dev-libs/gumbo
>> dev-libs/gumbo
>> dev-libs/libxml2
>> dev-libs/libxml2
>> dev-libs/nss
>> dev-libs/nss
>> dev-libs/protobuf
>> dev-libs/protobuf
>> dev-python/cryptography
>> dev-python/cryptography
>> dev-python/hatchling
>> dev-python/hatchling
>> dev-python/mako
>> dev-python/mako
>> dev-python/markupsafe
>> dev-python/markupsafe
>> dev-python/pluggy
>> dev-python/pluggy
>> dev-ruby/io-console
>> dev-ruby/io-console
>> dev-ruby/irb
>> dev-ruby/irbnetsurf-buildsystem
>> dev-ruby/minitest
>> dev-ruby/minitest
>> dev-ruby/rbs
>> dev-ruby/rbs
>> ffmpeg
>> ffmpeg
>> gdbus-codegen
>> gdbus-codegen
>> gentoolkit
>> gentoolkit
>> glib-utils
>> glib-utils
>> gtk-update-icon-cache
>> gtk-update-icon-cache
>> libixion
>> libixion
>> libnsgif
>> libnsgif
>> liborcus
>> liborcus
>> libplacebo
>> libplacebo
>> libreoffice
>> libreoffice
>> libreoffice-l10n
>> libreoffice-l10n
>> mdds
>> mdds
>> media-libs/assimp
>> media-libs/assimp
>> media-libs/exiftool
>> media-libs/exiftool
>> media-libs/glm
>> media-libs/glm
>> media-sound/mac
>> media-sound/mac
>> mesa
>> mesa
>> meson
>> meson
>> myspell-en
>> myspell-en
>> net-misc/curl
>> net-misc/curl
>> netsurf-buildsystem
>> pkgconf
>> pkgconf
>> pydantic
>> pydantic
>> pydantic-core
>> pydantic-core
>> pyopenssl
>> pyopenssl
>> re2c
>> re2c
>> sys-libs/zlib
>> sys-libs/zlib
>> xz-utils
>> xz-utils
>
>
> Nearly everything is duplicated? BWA! GuhNoo crapware at work.

It is peculiar that he listed them twice.

sort(1) has a "-u" (unique) option that fixes this.

--
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