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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
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by: Marco Moock - Fri, 27 Oct 2023 12:31 UTC

Hello!

I experienced that 2 times with 8.17.1.9 on Debian 12.

A message with 2 recipients got a 450 error of one server, the other
one got delivered immediately.

It was in the queue and I ran sendmail -q -v and it got delivered (I
saw it on the output and now it finally reached the mailing list), but
not logged.

m@srv1:~$ sudo journalctl --no-pager -t sm-mta -S 0:00 |grep 'to=<mailop@mailop.org>'
Oct 27 12:44:16 srv1.dorfdsl.de sm-mta[47521]: 39RAiAG4047519: to=<mailop@mailop.org>, delay=00:00:06, xdelay=00:00:06, mailer=esmtp, pri=62213, relay=mx.mailop.org. [IPv6:2a03:4000:37:599:d8ce:dff:fee1:81c2], dsn=4.3.2, reply=450-4.3.2 Service currently unavailable, stat=Deferred: 450-4.3.2 Service currently unavailable
m@srv1:~

I also experienced that with another mail this morning.

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Marco

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by: Claus Aßmann - Fri, 27 Oct 2023 13:54 UTC

Marco Moock wrote:

> I experienced that 2 times with 8.17.1.9 on Debian 12.

Logging via "systemd"?

> It was in the queue and I ran sendmail -q -v and it got delivered (I

> m@srv1:~$ sudo journalctl --no-pager -t sm-mta -S 0:00 |grep
> 'to=<mailop@mailop.org>'

You should grep for the "queue id" instead -- in the full log
(whatever -t sm-mta is: does it select entries matching that?)

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by: Marco Moock - Fri, 27 Oct 2023 19:45 UTC

Am 27.10.2023 um 09:54:26 Uhr schrieb Claus Aßmann:

> Marco Moock wrote:
>
> > I experienced that 2 times with 8.17.1.9 on Debian 12.
>
> Logging via "systemd"?

Yes, and I use journalctl to get the logs and that is default in all
systemd based systems, some even don't have syslogd installed by
default.

> You should grep for the "queue id" instead -- in the full log
> (whatever -t sm-mta is: does it select entries matching that?)

-t, --identifier=SYSLOG-KENNUNG

That seems to be the same identifier that syslogd uses and that was the
issue.

The sendmail -q command uses the 'sendmail' identifier instead of
sm-mta.

Oct 27 12:48:15 srv1.dorfdsl.de sendmail[47549]: 39RAiAG4047519: to=<mailop@mailop.org>, delay=00:04:05, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=esmtp, pri=152213, relay=mx.mailop.org. [IPv6:2a03:4000:37:599:d8ce:dff:fee1:81c2], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued as 4SGzsW2V5mz8sgJ)

Subject	Author
successful delivery not logged when message has 2 recipients and	Marco Moock
Re: successful delivery not logged when message has 2 recipients and	Claus Aßmann
Re: successful delivery not logged when message has 2 recipients	Marco Moock