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by: Don Vito Martinelli - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:09 UTC

This question is aimed at Rust under Linux.

The Build documentation for Linux -
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/code-development - specifies which
level of Rust is necessary to build Seamonkey.

> autoconf-2.13, python-2.7.18, python-3.6.6, nasm-2.14.x, clang-5, gcc-7, rustc-1.61.0, unzip-6.0 and zip-3.0
> Note: For 2.53.x even though 1.61.0 is the minimum rustc version, 1.66.1 is the preferred one. We also recommend using at least gcc 8.3.1 or clang 9 for building.
>
> The following development packages are required:
> alsa-lib, dbus-glib, GConf2, gtk+-3.24.x, libXt, pulseaudio-libs and yasm-1.3.0

However, there have been problems quite recently (2.53.15) where there
was also a "maximum level permitted", and Seamonkey would abort under
certain circumstances (playing audio) if a rust level > 1.66.1 was used
to build it.
Now I'm aware that 2.53.16 contained a workaround and 2.53.17 a full fix
for that particular problem.
I have my brand new Seamonkey from my Linux distribution's repositories
and see that they used rust 1.69.0 to build it. Are there any hidden
problems associated with this level?

I have just looked at the release description for 1.53.15 and all it
says is: Verified compatibility with Rust 1.65.
1.53.16 says: Verified compatibility with Rust 1.66.1.
1.53.17 says nothing at all about rust in the Release Description.

I'm assuming 2.53.15 would have been fixed before it was released if
anyone had noticed that building with a newer rust would have had those
side-effects, but the only place I ever saw that dependency "announced"
was in a reply to a question in this forum.
Oh, and Audio works.

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by: frg - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 16:26 UTC

2.53.17 should work with latest rust. Not aware of any problems at the moment.

FRG

Don Vito Martinelli wrote:
> This question is aimed at Rust under Linux.
>
>
> The Build documentation for Linux -
> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/code-development - specifies which level
> of Rust is necessary to build Seamonkey.
>
>> autoconf-2.13, python-2.7.18, python-3.6.6, nasm-2.14.x, clang-5, gcc-7,
>> rustc-1.61.0, unzip-6.0 and zip-3.0
>> Note: For 2.53.x even though 1.61.0 is the minimum rustc version, 1.66.1 is
>> the preferred one. We also recommend using at least gcc 8.3.1 or clang 9 for
>> building.
>>
>> The following development packages are required:
>> alsa-lib, dbus-glib, GConf2, gtk+-3.24.x, libXt, pulseaudio-libs and yasm-1.3.0
>
> However, there have been problems quite recently (2.53.15) where there was
> also a "maximum level permitted", and Seamonkey would abort under certain
> circumstances (playing audio) if a rust level > 1.66.1 was used to build it.
> Now I'm aware that 2.53.16 contained a workaround and 2.53.17 a full fix for
> that particular problem.
> I have my brand new Seamonkey from my Linux distribution's repositories and
> see that they used rust 1.69.0 to build it. Are there any hidden problems
> associated with this level?
>
> I have just looked at the release description for 1.53.15 and all it says is:
> Verified compatibility with Rust 1.65.
> 1.53.16 says: Verified compatibility with Rust 1.66.1.
> 1.53.17 says nothing at all about rust in the Release Description.
>
> I'm assuming 2.53.15 would have been fixed before it was released if anyone
> had noticed that building with a newer rust would have had those side-effects,
> but the only place I ever saw that dependency "announced" was in a reply to a
> question in this forum.
> Oh, and Audio works.

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by: Don Vito Martinelli - Wed, 9 Aug 2023 09:45 UTC

Thanks.
The distribution is moving to rust 1.71.1 - it made the servers today -
but it should be a while before we get to see a Seamonkey built using
that level. I have vaguely considered installing a build environment on
my test machine but would very much prefer to leave it to the people who
actually know what they are doing.

frg wrote:
> 2.53.17 should work with latest rust. Not aware of any problems at the
> moment.
>
> FRG
>
> Don Vito Martinelli wrote:
>> This question is aimed at Rust under Linux.
>>
>>
>> The Build documentation for Linux -
>> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/code-development - specifies
>> which level of Rust is necessary to build Seamonkey.
>>
>>> autoconf-2.13, python-2.7.18, python-3.6.6, nasm-2.14.x, clang-5,
>>> gcc-7, rustc-1.61.0, unzip-6.0 and zip-3.0
>>> Note: For 2.53.x even though 1.61.0 is the minimum rustc version,
>>> 1.66.1 is the preferred one. We also recommend using at least gcc
>>> 8.3.1 or clang 9 for building.
>>>
>>> The following development packages are required:
>>> alsa-lib, dbus-glib, GConf2, gtk+-3.24.x, libXt, pulseaudio-libs and
>>> yasm-1.3.0
>>
>> However, there have been problems quite recently (2.53.15) where there
>> was also a "maximum level permitted", and Seamonkey would abort under
>> certain circumstances (playing audio) if a rust level > 1.66.1 was
>> used to build it.
>> Now I'm aware that 2.53.16 contained a workaround and 2.53.17 a full
>> fix for that particular problem.
>> I have my brand new Seamonkey from my Linux distribution's
>> repositories and see that they used rust 1.69.0 to build it. Are
>> there any hidden problems associated with this level?
>>
>> I have just looked at the release description for 1.53.15 and all it
>> says is: Verified compatibility with Rust 1.65.
>> 1.53.16 says: Verified compatibility with Rust 1.66.1.
>> 1.53.17 says nothing at all about rust in the Release Description.
>>
>> I'm assuming 2.53.15 would have been fixed before it was released if
>> anyone had noticed that building with a newer rust would have had
>> those side-effects, but the only place I ever saw that dependency
>> "announced" was in a reply to a question in this forum.
>> Oh, and Audio works.
>

Subject	Author
Software Levels when building	Don Vito Martinelli
Software Levels when building	frg
Software Levels when building	Don Vito Martinelli