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* No keyboard after sleep.Big Al
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No keyboard after sleep.

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Subject: No keyboard after sleep.
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 by: Big Al - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 20:01 UTC

Mint just did a large update yesterday 4/8.

Update old version new version
linux-headers-generic-hwe-22.04 6.5.0.26~22.04.13 6.5.27.28~22.04.1
linux-libc-dev 5.16.0-101.111 5.16.0-102.112
linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04 6.5.0.26.26-22.04.13 6.5.0.27.28~22.04.1
linux-generic-hwe-22.04 6.5.0.26.25~22.04.13 6.5.0.27.28~22.04.1
linux-headers-generic 5.15.0.101.98 5.15.0.102.99
linux-image-generic 5.15.0.101.98 5.15.0.102.99
linux-generic 5.15.0.101.98 5.15.0.102.99

I've been having issues with the 5.16.0-100 kernel, even the 101 kernel, and now the 102 kernel is
installed and it seems to be fine, or let's say it shuts down now without errors.

Kernel 97 was the last good kernel I've had for weeks.

Well these updates have made all kernels good or bad having an issue coming out of sleep and there
is no keyboard. It took me a while to see it happen because I use just the mouse so much. Web
pages, card games, reading mail. But when I finally tried to write mail I found it.

I can maybe put the laptop to sleep 1,2 or maybe 3 times, but eventually the keyboard goes away.
I can adjust the backlight with the sliders on the power icon in the panel, but the shift-lock light
will not turn on/off.

I'm lost and I don't know who to report the issue to. I complained weeks ago about kernel 100 being
bad and the suggestion was to install 6.8 kernel. I'm not able to get/see that one, but 6.5 seemed
to work from the update-manager. But now even that has this keyboard issue.

I'd take any help you can give.
--
Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon 6.0.4 Kernel 5.15.0-102-generic
Al

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 by: Paul - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 22:58 UTC

On 4/9/2024 4:01 PM, Big Al wrote:
> Mint just did a large update yesterday 4/8.
>
> Update                old version        new version
> linux-headers-generic-hwe-22.04  6.5.0.26~22.04.13    6.5.27.28~22.04.1
> linux-libc-dev            5.16.0-101.111        5.16.0-102.112
> linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04    6.5.0.26.26-22.04.13    6.5.0.27.28~22.04.1
> linux-generic-hwe-22.04        6.5.0.26.25~22.04.13    6.5.0.27.28~22.04.1
> linux-headers-generic        5.15.0.101.98        5.15.0.102.99
> linux-image-generic        5.15.0.101.98        5.15.0.102.99
> linux-generic            5.15.0.101.98         5.15.0.102.99
>
> I've been having issues with the 5.16.0-100 kernel, even the 101 kernel, and now the 102 kernel is installed and it seems to be fine, or let's say it shuts down now without errors.
>
> Kernel 97 was the last good kernel I've had for weeks.
>
> Well these updates have made all kernels good or bad having an issue coming out of sleep and there is no keyboard.   It took me a while to see it happen because I use just the mouse so much.  Web pages, card games, reading mail.  But when I finally tried to write mail I found it.
>
> I can maybe put the laptop to sleep 1,2 or maybe 3 times, but eventually the keyboard goes away.
> I can adjust the backlight with the sliders on the power icon in the panel, but the shift-lock light will not turn on/off.
>
> I'm lost and I don't know who to report the issue to.  I complained weeks ago about kernel 100 being bad and the suggestion was to install 6.8 kernel.  I'm not able to get/see that one, but 6.5 seemed to work from the update-manager.  But now even that has this keyboard issue.
>
> I'd take any help you can give.

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=362999

Presumably /etc/default/grub or so. Add "i8042.noaux" as a kernel boot param.

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i8042.noaux"

The details, such as they are, are at the bottom of that thread.
It explains that after suspend, the recovery thinks there's
something like an AUX port and it goes off into the weeds.

"A firmware or kernel bug causes ACPI PNP devices to appear as available, which
in turn causes the i8042 module to detect AUX ports, which are probed during
resume, and this causes the keyboard to cease functioning."

What's important at this point, is figuring out what "problem space"
this could be coming from. Presumably coming out of suspend, the
OS is probing details as if it is booting. Consulting ACPI tables
makes some kind of sense.

And those kernel boot params are sometimes "wonderful". I'd noticed
that one or more of my Knoppix DVDs no longer worked, and a
simple "noacpi" on the boot line, and the thing worked as if
nothing had happened. I never would have guessed from the symptoms,
it could be resolved that easily. Don't do that by the way :-)
That's merely an example of a Sparkle Pony. That would wipe out
your sleep and hibernate if you did that, and I don't use sleep
or hibernate with a LiveDVD. It also puts the OS into a Windows 95
situation of "it is safe to turn off your PC", so when you wipe
ACPI, it's ALL gone. Even shutdown.

Paul

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 by: Nic - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:27 UTC

On 4/9/24 4:01 PM, Big Al wrote:
> Mint just did a large update yesterday 4/8.
>
> Update                old version        new version
> linux-headers-generic-hwe-22.04  6.5.0.26~22.04.13 6.5.27.28~22.04.1
> linux-libc-dev            5.16.0-101.111        5.16.0-102.112
> linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04    6.5.0.26.26-22.04.13 6.5.0.27.28~22.04.1
> linux-generic-hwe-22.04        6.5.0.26.25~22.04.13 6.5.0.27.28~22.04.1
> linux-headers-generic        5.15.0.101.98        5.15.0.102.99
> linux-image-generic        5.15.0.101.98        5.15.0.102.99
> linux-generic            5.15.0.101.98         5.15.0.102.99
>
> I've been having issues with the 5.16.0-100 kernel, even the 101
> kernel, and now the 102 kernel is installed and it seems to be fine,
> or let's say it shuts down now without errors.
>
> Kernel 97 was the last good kernel I've had for weeks.
>
> Well these updates have made all kernels good or bad having an issue
> coming out of sleep and there is no keyboard.   It took me a while to
> see it happen because I use just the mouse so much.  Web pages, card
> games, reading mail.  But when I finally tried to write mail I found it.
>
> I can maybe put the laptop to sleep 1,2 or maybe 3 times, but
> eventually the keyboard goes away.
> I can adjust the backlight with the sliders on the power icon in the
> panel, but the shift-lock light will not turn on/off.
>
> I'm lost and I don't know who to report the issue to.  I complained
> weeks ago about kernel 100 being bad and the suggestion was to install
> 6.8 kernel.  I'm not able to get/see that one, but 6.5 seemed to work
> from the update-manager.  But now even that has this keyboard issue.
>
> I'd take any help you can give.
Have you checked the health of the hd? Use GSmart Control. What was your
solution to viewing the logout message that moves too fast?

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From: alan@invalid.com (Big Al)
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Subject: Re: No keyboard after sleep.
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 by: Big Al - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 13:29 UTC

On 4/10/24 08:27 AM, Nic wrote:
> On 4/9/24 4:01 PM, Big Al wrote:
>> Mint just did a large update yesterday 4/8.
>>
>> Update                old version        new version
>> linux-headers-generic-hwe-22.04  6.5.0.26~22.04.13 6.5.27.28~22.04.1
>> linux-libc-dev            5.16.0-101.111        5.16.0-102.112
>> linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04    6.5.0.26.26-22.04.13 6.5.0.27.28~22.04.1
>> linux-generic-hwe-22.04        6.5.0.26.25~22.04.13 6.5.0.27.28~22.04.1
>> linux-headers-generic        5.15.0.101.98        5.15.0.102.99
>> linux-image-generic        5.15.0.101.98        5.15.0.102.99
>> linux-generic            5.15.0.101.98         5.15.0.102.99
>>
>> I've been having issues with the 5.16.0-100 kernel, even the 101 kernel, and now the 102 kernel is
>> installed and it seems to be fine, or let's say it shuts down now without errors.
>>
>> Kernel 97 was the last good kernel I've had for weeks.
>>
>> Well these updates have made all kernels good or bad having an issue coming out of sleep and there
>> is no keyboard.   It took me a while to see it happen because I use just the mouse so much.  Web
>> pages, card games, reading mail.  But when I finally tried to write mail I found it.
>>
>> I can maybe put the laptop to sleep 1,2 or maybe 3 times, but eventually the keyboard goes away.
>> I can adjust the backlight with the sliders on the power icon in the panel, but the shift-lock
>> light will not turn on/off.
>>
>> I'm lost and I don't know who to report the issue to.  I complained weeks ago about kernel 100
>> being bad and the suggestion was to install 6.8 kernel.  I'm not able to get/see that one, but 6.5
>> seemed to work from the update-manager.  But now even that has this keyboard issue.
>>
>> I'd take any help you can give.
> Have you checked the health of the hd? Use GSmart Control. What was your solution to viewing the
> logout message that moves too fast?
For the shutdown, I recorded a video using my phone. As much as I submitted a kernel bug, I simply
waited for 2 kernel updates. 5.15.0-97 works, 100 failed, 101 failed and 102 works now.
In the meantime I found 6.5.0.27 (whatever update-manager showed) worked.

GSmart shows.

=== START OF SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

I've also used Windows programs to look at it. Linux doesn't really like my drive and says it's
unknown. Windows tools can handle the smart stats.
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Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon 6.0.4 Kernel 5.15.0-102-generic
Al

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