So I want to install the graphics app "DIA" (dia) on this Arch Linux laptop.
Turns out there's no native package, but it's in the AUR. Cloned the link and
the ran "makepkg -s", only to find 3 dependencies are needed. Two of them have
native packages, but python2 has to be gotten from the AUR. Sigh.

So got that, only to get a checksum error. So had to google, and figure out
that one has to install the key:

# pacman-key --recv-keys ABCEDF123...
$ gpg --recv-key

Making the package ran a ./configure script, built python, and built and ran
about 400 tests. It's still going on... had to plug in the power supply.

Will it all work out in the end?
Will it be worth it?
Stay detuned.

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Chris Ahlstrom wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> So I want to install the graphics app "DIA" (dia) on this Arch Linux laptop.
> Turns out there's no native package, but it's in the AUR. Cloned the link and
> the ran "makepkg -s", only to find 3 dependencies are needed. Two of them have
> native packages, but python2 has to be gotten from the AUR. Sigh.
>
> So got that, only to get a checksum error. So had to google, and figure out
> that one has to install the key:
>
> # pacman-key --recv-keys ABCEDF123...
> $ gpg --recv-key
>
> Making the package ran a ./configure script, built python, and built and ran
> about 400 tests. It's still going on... had to plug in the power supply.
>
> Will it all work out in the end?
> Will it be worth it?
> Stay detuned.

Well, installed the python2 build no problem.

But building dia led to a spewage of warnings (such as incompatible pointer
types) and finally an error about a function not found.

Oh well, will have to use Dia on the Ubuntu box.

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On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 07:50:38 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> So I want to install the graphics app "DIA" (dia) on this Arch Linux
> laptop. Turns out there's no native package, but it's in the AUR. Cloned
> the link and the ran "makepkg -s", only to find 3 dependencies are
> needed. Two of them have native packages, but python2 has to be gotten
> from the AUR. Sigh.

Ah, the bad old days. I don't miss them at all.

On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 08:04:57 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>
> But building dia led to a spewage of warnings (such as incompatible pointer
> types) and finally an error about a function not found.
>

With Gentoo there is no problem whatsoever:

emerge dia

After 2 minutes dia was up and running:

https://i.postimg.cc/cHLGSVWf/dia.png

Portage did pull in a single dependency, libart_lgpl,
but everything was already present.

My advice:

Get Gentoo and fuck everything else.

Farley Flud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 08:04:57 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> But building dia led to a spewage of warnings (such as incompatible pointer
>> types) and finally an error about a function not found.
>
> With Gentoo there is no problem whatsoever:
>
> emerge dia
>
> After 2 minutes dia was up and running:
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/cHLGSVWf/dia.png
>
> Portage did pull in a single dependency, libart_lgpl,
> but everything was already present.
>
> My advice:
>
> Get Gentoo and fuck everything else.

I tried Gentoo a couple of times (many years ago) and although cool it ended up
borking itself. Probably a bit more tractable now.

Maybe later.

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On 2024-01-18, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> So I want to install the graphics app "DIA" (dia) on this Arch Linux laptop.
> Turns out there's no native package, but it's in the AUR. Cloned the link and
> the ran "makepkg -s", only to find 3 dependencies are needed. Two of them have
> native packages, but python2 has to be gotten from the AUR. Sigh.
>
> So got that, only to get a checksum error. So had to google, and figure out
> that one has to install the key:
>
> # pacman-key --recv-keys ABCEDF123...
> $ gpg --recv-key
>
> Making the package ran a ./configure script, built python, and built and ran
> about 400 tests. It's still going on... had to plug in the power supply.
>
> Will it all work out in the end?
> Will it be worth it?
> Stay detuned.
>

While I admire the purity of manual installation I now use paru as it
does all this, with my permission fairly automatically.

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Simon wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-01-18, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> So I want to install the graphics app "DIA" (dia) on this Arch Linux laptop.
>> Turns out there's no native package, but it's in the AUR. Cloned the link and
>> the ran "makepkg -s", only to find 3 dependencies are needed. Two of them have
>> native packages, but python2 has to be gotten from the AUR. Sigh.
>>
>> So got that, only to get a checksum error. So had to google, and figure out
>> that one has to install the key:
>>
>> # pacman-key --recv-keys ABCEDF123...
>> $ gpg --recv-key
>>
>> Making the package ran a ./configure script, built python, and built and ran
>> about 400 tests. It's still going on... had to plug in the power supply.
>>
>> Will it all work out in the end?
>> Will it be worth it?
>> Stay detuned.
>>
>
> While I admire the purity of manual installation I now use paru as it
> does all this, with my permission fairly automatically.

Cool.

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On 1/18/2024 3:13 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 08:04:57 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>>
>> But building dia led to a spewage of warnings (such as incompatible pointer
>> types) and finally an error about a function not found.
>>
>
> With Gentoo there is no problem whatsoever:
>
> emerge dia
>
> After 2 minutes dia was up and running:
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/cHLGSVWf/dia.png
>
> Portage did pull in a single dependency, libart_lgpl,
> but everything was already present.
>
> My advice:
>
> Get Gentoo and fuck everything else.
>
>

Farley do you recommend using Peru which Simon suggested?

Le 19-01-2024, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> a écrit :
> On 1/18/2024 3:13 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
>>
>> My advice:
>>
>> Get Gentoo and fuck everything else.
>
> Farley do you recommend using Peru which Simon suggested?

What for? He said fuck everything else, so he said fuck archlinux. It's
not that difficult to understand. Paru is for installing tools from the
AUR depots on archlinux. It's useless on gentoo.

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On 1/19/2024 4:34 PM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 19-01-2024, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> On 1/18/2024 3:13 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
>>>
>>> My advice:
>>>
>>> Get Gentoo and fuck everything else.
>>
>> Farley do you recommend using Peru which Simon suggested?
>
> What for? He said fuck everything else, so he said fuck archlinux. It's
> not that difficult to understand. Paru is for installing tools from the
> AUR depots on archlinux. It's useless on gentoo.
>

No, from what little I know it seems to be more general than that.

On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 07:50:38 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> ... the graphics app "DIA" (dia) ... [needs] python2

Maybe that package is an ancient version. There is a “dia” package in
Debian, and it has no requirement for such an obsolete version of Python.

On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 21:13:09 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

> Portage did pull in a single dependency, libart_lgpl, but everything was
> already present.

Doesn’t seem like it’s still being developed
<https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libart-lgpl>.

I think it’s an obsolete precursor of the Cairo graphics library.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 07:50:38 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> ... the graphics app "DIA" (dia) ... [needs] python2
>
> Maybe that package is an ancient version. There is a “dia” package in
> Debian, and it has no requirement for such an obsolete version of Python.

I gave Dia another run a couple days ago. While I have found it to be quite
usable in the past, in this Ubuntu version the autorouting of the lines drove
me crazy; ugly.

Similarly, I tried Umbrello again, and it has a lot of minor issues. Plus,
while working on a class diagram based on imported headers, it crashed.

I installed BoUML, which I used years ago and really liked, but it would not
import my header files. Strange.

All I want to do is create class diagrams so that I can get an overview of all
the classes I created for a (currently private) project that I haven't looked
at in awhile.

For now I'm creating condensed text files; at least that gets me looking at all
the source code. Not a big fan of drawing diagrams manually.

At some point might revisit using Doxygen and Graphviz/ClassViz; have used that
to "write" 1200-page design documents right from the source code, in the past.

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almost certain that we have been choosing the wrong time for studying the
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On 1/18/2024 4:13 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 08:04:57 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>>
>> But building dia led to a spewage of warnings (such as incompatible pointer
>> types) and finally an error about a function not found.
>>
>
> With Gentoo there is no problem whatsoever:
>
> emerge dia
>
> After 2 minutes dia was up and running:

What a slow pig.

I had it downloaded, installed and up and running in 1 minute at most on
Windows.

http://dia-installer.de

> https://i.postimg.cc/cHLGSVWf/dia.png
>
> Portage did pull in a single dependency, libart_lgpl,
> but everything was already present.

Python sure is nice to you.

> My advice:
>
> Get Gentoo and fuck everything else.

Get Gentoo and fuck your computing life up.

On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 11:40:46 -0500, DFS wrote:

> I had it downloaded, installed and up and running in 1 minute at most on
> Windows.

sudo apt install dia

I didn't get out the stop watch, but a minute at the outside sounds right.
Interesting program. Now I can do UML diagrams! (only kidding. I'm not a
Booch/Rumbaugh fan)

On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 11:40:46 -0500, DFS wrote:

> I had it downloaded, installed and up and running in 1 minute at most on
> Windows.

Did that include the reboot?

On 1/21/2024 4:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 11:40:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> I had it downloaded, installed and up and running in 1 minute at most on
>> Windows.
>
> Did that include the reboot?

That's strike one!

3 strikes and your penalty is you have to install Gentoo and post your
boot log and compare it line-by-line to Feeb's.

On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 17:41:27 -0500, DFS wrote:

> On 1/21/2024 4:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 11:40:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> I had it downloaded, installed and up and running in 1 minute at most
>>> on Windows.
>>
>> Did that include the reboot?
>
> That's strike one!

I’ll count that as a “no”.

On 1/25/2024 5:05 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 17:41:27 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 1/21/2024 4:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 11:40:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had it downloaded, installed and up and running in 1 minute at most
>>>> on Windows.
>>>
>>> Did that include the reboot?
>>
>> That's strike one!
>
> I’ll count that as a “no”.

I'll count that as strike two, Linux clown.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 17:41:27 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 1/21/2024 4:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 11:40:46 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had it downloaded, installed and up and running in 1 minute at most
>>>> on Windows.

Big deal! 15 seconds on Ubuntu w/aptitude :-D But who cares?

>>> Did that include the reboot?
>>
>> That's strike one!
>
> I’ll count that as a “no”.

He did not count the search time, remembering to avoid the bogus download
link for "Download Converter Suite", navigating to his Downloads folder...

But who cares?

By the way, installing Umbrello on Arch: sudo pacman -S umbrello

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