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* TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & WirelessBill Bradshaw
+* Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & WirelessVanguardLH
|`* Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & WirelessBill Bradshaw
| +- Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & WirelessFrank Slootweg
| `- Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & WirelessVanguardLH
+* Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & WirelessR.Wieser
|`- Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & WirelessR.Wieser
+- Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & WirelessNewyana2
+- Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & WirelessBill Bradshaw
+* Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & WirelessChar Jackson
|`* Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & WirelessBill Bradshaw
| +- Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & Wireless...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
| `* Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & WirelessChar Jackson
|  `* Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & WirelessBill Bradshaw
|   +* Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & WirelessChar Jackson
|   |`* Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & WirelessVanguardLH
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From: bradshaw@gci.net (Bill Bradshaw)
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Subject: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & Wireless
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 by: Bill Bradshaw - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 21:28 UTC

I purchased this ax3000 without first reading the setup manual. Big
mistake. I finally got everything working except I do not understand why I
can not use ACCESS CONTROL without loosing the wireless. Anybody have this
router and solve the problem or is it not solvable? Sorry to post this here
but this where the most knowledgeable people reside.
--
<Bill>

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska

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From: V@nguard.LH (VanguardLH)
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 by: VanguardLH - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 23:01 UTC

Bill Bradshaw <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:

> I purchased this ax3000 without first reading the setup manual. Big
> mistake. I finally got everything working except I do not understand
> why I can not use ACCESS CONTROL without loosing the wireless.
> Anybody have this router and solve the problem or is it not solvable?

Don't have that router, but did find instructions on Access Control at:

https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/1535/

Regardless of the fancy name, this looks to be nothing more than a
firewalling feature to allow/block a list of devices by their MAC
addresses. Nothing mentioned there that the wi-fi antennae would get
disabled.

Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & Wireless

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 by: R.Wieser - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 07:05 UTC

Bill,

> except I do not understand why I can not use ACCESS CONTROL without
> loosing the wireless.

It might well be a security feature (that I seem to remember from some years
ago).

To make sure that guests / warhackers on your wifi will not be able to
modify those settings.

I have no idea if the feature can be disabled.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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 by: R.Wieser - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 07:08 UTC

Whoops, I used the wrong term :

warhackers -> wardrivers

People driving around in search for open WiFi networks.

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 by: Newyana2 - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:28 UTC

On 4/9/2024 5:28 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
> I purchased this ax3000 without first reading the setup manual. Big
> mistake. I finally got everything working except I do not understand why I
> can not use ACCESS CONTROL without loosing the wireless. Anybody have this
> router and solve the problem or is it not solvable? Sorry to post this here
> but this where the most knowledgeable people reside.
>

I have the ax1500 (Archer ax10). I haven't had any problems,
but I also have no use for access control, so I've never tried
that. Any device needs to either be wired or have the password.
Isn't that access control? Maybe it would be used for a child's
device if you suspect they're going to try to plug in and go
online clandestinely?

The manual, as V said,
seems to indicate that AC is just a function you can use through
the router login webpage. Wireless should have any relationship
with that. Though there is a button to turn on wifi. If you somehow
turned that off then you might need to turn it on again.

Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & Wireless

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 by: Bill Bradshaw - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:16 UTC

VanguardLH wrote:
> Bill Bradshaw <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:
>
>> I purchased this ax3000 without first reading the setup manual. Big
>> mistake. I finally got everything working except I do not understand
>> why I can not use ACCESS CONTROL without loosing the wireless.
>> Anybody have this router and solve the problem or is it not solvable?
>
> Don't have that router, but did find instructions on Access Control
> at:
>
> https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/1535/
>
> Regardless of the fancy name, this looks to be nothing more than a
> firewalling feature to allow/block a list of devices by their MAC
> addresses. Nothing mentioned there that the wi-fi antennae would get
> disabled.

I have been to that page but my setup program does show a screen like that.
What is missing on mine is the ability to tell the control that I am using
either wired or wireless.

<Bill>

Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & Wireless

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 by: Bill Bradshaw - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:20 UTC

Bill Bradshaw wrote:
> I purchased this ax3000 without first reading the setup manual. Big
> mistake. I finally got everything working except I do not understand
> why I can not use ACCESS CONTROL without loosing the wireless. Anybody
> have this router and solve the problem or is it not solvable?
> Sorry to post this here but this where the most knowledgeable people
> reside.

I will reply to my own message and just say thanks for trying. It was just
a question wondering why. I did end up with version 1 of this router
instead of 2 and maybe 2 corrected something. I do have the latest for
firmware for version 1.

<Bill>

Re: TP-Link ax3000 ACCESS Control & Wireless

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 by: Frank Slootweg - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:22 UTC

Bill Bradshaw <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:
> VanguardLH wrote:
> > Bill Bradshaw <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I purchased this ax3000 without first reading the setup manual. Big
> >> mistake. I finally got everything working except I do not understand
> >> why I can not use ACCESS CONTROL without loosing the wireless.
> >> Anybody have this router and solve the problem or is it not solvable?
> >
> > Don't have that router, but did find instructions on Access Control
> > at:
> >
> > https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/1535/
> >
> > Regardless of the fancy name, this looks to be nothing more than a
> > firewalling feature to allow/block a list of devices by their MAC
> > addresses. Nothing mentioned there that the wi-fi antennae would get
> > disabled.
>
> I have been to that page but my setup program does show a screen like that.
> What is missing on mine is the ability to tell the control that I am using
> either wired or wireless.

FWIW, my router [1] has (had, no longer using it) only ACL (Access
Control List [1]) functionality for the wireless connections.

IMO, that makes sense, because for the wired connections, a culprit
has to physically connect hir device to your router, not a very likely
scenario for a home router.

So I think there's nothing wrong with your router. It probably just
doesn't have the functionality you thought it had.

[1] Sitecom WL-341.

[2] MAC Address Filtering Table.

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 by: Char Jackson - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:47 UTC

On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 13:28:06 -0800, "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:

>I purchased this ax3000 without first reading the setup manual. Big
>mistake.

Circling back to the beginning of this thread, where in the setup manual did you
see that enabling Access Control, which others have said is merely another name
for MAC filtering, does it say that doing so will disable WiFi?

>I finally got everything working except I do not understand why I
>can not use ACCESS CONTROL without loosing the wireless.

Have you added your MAC address to the Allowed list?

What does "loosing the wireless" actually mean? Does it mean that enabling the
Access Control feature disables the router's WiFi, or does it simply mean that
you can no longer connect via WiFi?

Are you aware that MAC filtering is a very weak form of controlling access to
the router? If someone is inclined, it can be worked around quite easily.

>Anybody have this router and solve the problem or is it not solvable?

I figured it might be worthwhile to have you restate/clarify the actual problem.

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 by: VanguardLH - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:42 UTC

Bill Bradshaw <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Bill Bradshaw <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I purchased this ax3000 without first reading the setup manual. Big
>>> mistake. I finally got everything working except I do not
>>> understand why I can not use ACCESS CONTROL without loosing the
>>> wireless. Anybody have this router and solve the problem or is it
>>> not solvable?
>>
>> Don't have that router, but did find instructions on Access Control
>> at:
>>
>> https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/1535/
>>
>> Regardless of the fancy name, this looks to be nothing more than a
>> firewalling feature to allow/block a list of devices by their MAC
>> addresses. Nothing mentioned there that the wi-fi antennae would
>> get disabled.
>
> I have been to that page but my setup program does show a screen like
> that. What is missing on mine is the ability to tell the control that
> I am using either wired or wireless.

Typically, MAC access control doesn't care how you got to the router.
The firewalling is after the wifi radio and wired connections. That is,
it is a joint firewalling feature applied regardless of connect type.

You want to control the access *method* to the router for a device, like
you want one of the following scenarios?

- A device can have wifi access but not wired (Ethernet) access.
- A device can have wired access but not wireless access.

I've been through only maybe half a dozen routers from D-Link, Linksys
(before and after Cisco acquired them), and Netgear, but never ran
across a consumer-grade wifi router that differentiated its MAC access
control between connect methods (wired vs wireless). Guess such a
feature depends on the router's firmware. Mine lets me define MAC
control regardless of access method. That is, MAC control os common or
shared across both wired and wireless connects. You were disappointed
the AX3000 did not have that feature, so did your prior router have it
(if so, what was it)?

The TPlink article I found (which was supposed to be for your router)
says the MAC control is for either wired or wireless access method.
There is a Pro model, but you didn't say Pro, so I didn't check if
instructions were different for the Pro.

https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/3774/
(talks about using the router as an AP, but MAC control is still shared
across wired and wireless connections)

Even when configuring the AX3000 as an AP (access point) instead of the
router (you have the AP point to the router), its Access (MAC) control
is still shared for wireless and wired connects to the AP.

If you're looking to have separate MAC allow/block lists for wired
versus wireless connects to the AX3000, doesn't look like that router
will do that. I cannot find info (doesn't mean there isn't info, just
that I didn't find it) that shows there are separate Access Control
lists that are used separately for wireless than for wired.

MAC control is a firewalling function, and that's usually irrelevant of
the connection method. I haven't been a network sysadmin in a corporate
environment to know if far more expensive and much more programmable
enterprise-grade routers have the feature you desire: one MAC list for
wired connects, and another MAC list for wireless connects.

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 by: Paul in Houston TX - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 21:32 UTC

Bill Bradshaw wrote:
> I purchased this ax3000 without first reading the setup manual. Big
> mistake. I finally got everything working except I do not understand why I
> can not use ACCESS CONTROL without loosing the wireless. Anybody have this
> router and solve the problem or is it not solvable? Sorry to post this here
> but this where the most knowledgeable people reside.
>

I have the ax4400 router. "Access control" controls MAC address access.
It does not differentiate between wifi and wired.

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 by: ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 22:31 UTC

Bill Bradshaw wrote on 4/9/24 2:28 PM:
> I purchased this ax3000 without first reading the setup manual. Big
> mistake. I finally got everything working except I do not understand why I
> can not use ACCESS CONTROL without loosing the wireless. Anybody have this
> router and solve the problem or is it not solvable? Sorry to post this here
> but this where the most knowledgeable people reside.
>
Access Control in router allows one to allow or block computers or other
devices(e.g. phones, printers, Alexa, smart TV, Kindle, etc.). MAC
addresses on the network.
The devices can be wired or wifi.

Devices allowed in Access Control can be assigned a unique ip address in
the routers LAN Setup when using the 'Router' as a the DHCP server.
LAN Setup almost always and normally provides pre-configured values for
the Router(its IP Address, Subnet Mask and if using the router as the
means for dispensing IP address(the DHCP server) a range of ip addresses
Starting IP and Ending IP addresses. The range should be sufficient for
all devices that connect(or may connect) to the router.

If using Access Control to allow or block devices(via MAC filtering in
Access Control), allowed devices(Lan or wifi) then those 'allowed devices
can be assigned(as noted earlier) their own unique IP address.

If losing a wifi occurs after adding/blocking a device to Access Control,
it might be prudent to look at the range of addresses to ensure
sufficient number of dispensable ip addresses are available to avoid one
device dropping connection at the expense of another allowed device.

If using MAC filtering, it might make sense to assign a unique ip address
to every single device that connects to the network(the router). This
ensures that every Access Controlled allowed MAC address gets its own ip
within the range of Starting and Ending dispensable IP addresses.

Repeating again - Access Control 'MAC filtering' is not unique to LAN or
Wifi - it applies to both types of connections.

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....w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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 by: Bill Bradshaw - Thu, 11 Apr 2024 17:10 UTC

Char Jackson wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 13:28:06 -0800, "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I purchased this ax3000 without first reading the setup manual. Big
>> mistake.
>
> Circling back to the beginning of this thread, where in the setup
> manual did you see that enabling Access Control, which others have
> said is merely another name for MAC filtering, does it say that doing
> so will disable WiFi?
>
>> I finally got everything working except I do not understand why I
>> can not use ACCESS CONTROL without loosing the wireless.

I had a problem getting wireless to work because I did not know you could
not have Access Control on to use it. I found that by searching the
internet and not from the TP-Link operating manual. Spent a lot of time
before I found that.

> Have you added your MAC address to the Allowed list?

Everyting is listed by MAC address even the 2 switches and printer. This
router handles a network with 3 computers connected to it.

> What does "loosing the wireless" actually mean? Does it mean that
> enabling the Access Control feature disables the router's WiFi, or
> does it simply mean that you can no longer connect via WiFi?

It does not disable the WiFi because I can see SSIDs including mine if they
are enabled. Just will not connect.

I do not normally publish my SSIDs. So to let you use a Guest account I
have to provide both the SSID and password.
So when I try the wireless I enter the SSID and password but it will not
connect with ACESS CONTROL on.

> Are you aware that MAC filtering is a very weak form of controlling
> access to the router? If someone is inclined, it can be worked around
> quite easily.
>
>> Anybody have this router and solve the problem or is it not solvable?
>
> I figured it might be worthwhile to have you restate/clarify the
> actual problem.

I also listed everything in the IP & MAC BINDING section.

It would nice if in these manuals they would explain how info entered in one
place applys to other data entry areas.

As time goes on hopefully I will understand more about the modem.

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 by: ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ - Thu, 11 Apr 2024 19:19 UTC

Bill Bradshaw wrote on 4/11/24 10:10 AM:
> Char Jackson wrote:
> I had a problem getting wireless to work because I did not know you could
> not have Access Control on to use it. I found that by searching the
> internet and not from the TP-Link operating manual. Spent a lot of time
> before I found that.
>
>> Have you added your MAC address to the Allowed list?
>
> Everything is listed by MAC address even the 2 switches and printer. This
> router handles a network with 3 computers connected to it.

Hi, Bill.

Wireless connections to the router work with or without Access Control
turned on(enabled)
With Access Control disable, the items shown in Access Control are not used.
With Access Control enabled
- Normally highest level configurations(Allow all new devices to
connect or Block all new devices)
- Next level has multiple sections (applicable when Access Control Enabled)
=> List of Allowed devices currently connected
=> List of Allowed devices not currently connected
=> List of Blocked devices not currently connected
When Access Control is enabled any item in the 3 lists can be edited as
Allow or Block.

Please answer Char's question.
"Have you added your MAC address to the Allowed list?"

Why, should it be answered?
=> With Access Control enabled, a device needs to be configured
'Allowed' to connect to the router.

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 by: Char Jackson - Thu, 11 Apr 2024 21:48 UTC

On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:10:49 -0800, "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:

>Char Jackson wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 13:28:06 -0800, "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I purchased this ax3000 without first reading the setup manual. Big
>>> mistake.
>>
>> Circling back to the beginning of this thread, where in the setup
>> manual did you see that enabling Access Control, which others have
>> said is merely another name for MAC filtering, does it say that doing
>> so will disable WiFi?
>>
>>> I finally got everything working except I do not understand why I
>>> can not use ACCESS CONTROL without loosing the wireless.
>
>I had a problem getting wireless to work because I did not know you could
>not have Access Control on to use it. I found that by searching the
>internet and not from the TP-Link operating manual. Spent a lot of time
>before I found that.

I don't think that's correct. See the message(s) from ...winston.

>> Have you added your MAC address to the Allowed list?

It sounds like you haven't done this step. You'd need to do it before you enable
Access Control, of course.

>Everyting is listed by MAC address even the 2 switches and printer.

The switches and printer are unlikely to attempt to initiate access to your
router, so that's probably overkill.

>This router handles a network with 3 computers connected to it.
>
>> What does "loosing the wireless" actually mean? Does it mean that
>> enabling the Access Control feature disables the router's WiFi, or
>> does it simply mean that you can no longer connect via WiFi?
>
>It does not disable the WiFi because I can see SSIDs including mine if they
>are enabled. Just will not connect.

See above. It sounds like you neglected to add your MAC address to the Allowed
list before you enabled Access Control. See ...winston's posts for more info.

>I do not normally publish my SSIDs.

That's annoying because it's inconveniences legitimate users without improving
security, but it's not the problem here.

>So to let you use a Guest account I
>have to provide both the SSID and password.

My house is like a public coffee shop. We have the Guest SSID and password
written on a whiteboard in the kitchen. When guests come over, I can just point
to that whiteboard. The Guest network provides Internet access, but no access to
my LAN. Yours is probably similar.

>So when I try the wireless I enter the SSID and password but it will not
>connect with ACESS CONTROL on.

Your MAC address needs to be in the Allowed list.

>> Are you aware that MAC filtering is a very weak form of controlling
>> access to the router? If someone is inclined, it can be worked around
>> quite easily.
>>
>>> Anybody have this router and solve the problem or is it not solvable?
>>
>> I figured it might be worthwhile to have you restate/clarify the
>> actual problem.
>
>I also listed everything in the IP & MAC BINDING section.

I don't know what you mean by that but it's probably not significant.

>It would nice if in these manuals they would explain how info entered in one
>place applys to other data entry areas.

To be fair, no consumer equipment manufacturer probably wants to take on the
responsibility to fully educate the folks who buy that company's equipment. The
defaults usually work, and to go beyond that some additional research might be
required.

>As time goes on hopefully I will understand more about the modem.

It's a router, not a modem. ;-)

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 by: Bill Bradshaw - Fri, 12 Apr 2024 17:13 UTC

Char Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:10:49 -0800, "Bill Bradshaw"
> <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:
>
>> Char Jackson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 13:28:06 -0800, "Bill Bradshaw"
>>> <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I purchased this ax3000 without first reading the setup manual.
>>>> Big mistake.
>>>
>>> Circling back to the beginning of this thread, where in the setup
>>> manual did you see that enabling Access Control, which others have
>>> said is merely another name for MAC filtering, does it say that
>>> doing so will disable WiFi?
>>>
>>>> I finally got everything working except I do not understand why I
>>>> can not use ACCESS CONTROL without loosing the wireless.
>>
>> I had a problem getting wireless to work because I did not know you
>> could not have Access Control on to use it. I found that by
>> searching the internet and not from the TP-Link operating manual.
>> Spent a lot of time before I found that.
>
> I don't think that's correct. See the message(s) from ...winston.
>
>>> Have you added your MAC address to the Allowed list?
>
> It sounds like you haven't done this step. You'd need to do it before
> you enable Access Control, of course.
>
>> Everyting is listed by MAC address even the 2 switches and printer.
>
> The switches and printer are unlikely to attempt to initiate access
> to your router, so that's probably overkill.
>
>> This router handles a network with 3 computers connected to it.
>>
>>> What does "loosing the wireless" actually mean? Does it mean that
>>> enabling the Access Control feature disables the router's WiFi, or
>>> does it simply mean that you can no longer connect via WiFi?
>>
>> It does not disable the WiFi because I can see SSIDs including mine
>> if they are enabled. Just will not connect.
>
> See above. It sounds like you neglected to add your MAC address to
> the Allowed list before you enabled Access Control. See ...winston's
> posts for more info.
>
>> I do not normally publish my SSIDs.
>
> That's annoying because it's inconveniences legitimate users without
> improving security, but it's not the problem here.
>
>> So to let you use a Guest account I
>> have to provide both the SSID and password.
>
> My house is like a public coffee shop. We have the Guest SSID and
> password written on a whiteboard in the kitchen. When guests come
> over, I can just point to that whiteboard. The Guest network provides
> Internet access, but no access to my LAN. Yours is probably similar.
>
>> So when I try the wireless I enter the SSID and password but it will
>> not connect with ACESS CONTROL on.
>
> Your MAC address needs to be in the Allowed list.
>
>>> Are you aware that MAC filtering is a very weak form of controlling
>>> access to the router? If someone is inclined, it can be worked
>>> around quite easily.
>>>
>>>> Anybody have this router and solve the problem or is it not
>>>> solvable?
>>>
>>> I figured it might be worthwhile to have you restate/clarify the
>>> actual problem.
>>
>> I also listed everything in the IP & MAC BINDING section.
>
> I don't know what you mean by that but it's probably not significant.
>
>> It would nice if in these manuals they would explain how info
>> entered in one place applys to other data entry areas.
>
> To be fair, no consumer equipment manufacturer probably wants to take
> on the responsibility to fully educate the folks who buy that
> company's equipment. The defaults usually work, and to go beyond that
> some additional research might be required.
>
>> As time goes on hopefully I will understand more about the modem.
>
> It's a router, not a modem. ;-)

It is modem and not a router. There was 1 MAC I had not listed under access
control that was in my DHCP list. I did not list it because the name
referred to the Laptop and is not shown on the laptop tag. So I decided I
had nothing to loose by listing it as accessible. The wireless now works
with the ACCESS CONTROL set on. So I will search the MAC address on the
internet for info on what it is attached to. Maybe the wireless in the
laptop. Sometimes I feel pretty dumb to getting this stuff figured out but
I always push until I beat it in submission.

Thanks for all your help and sticking with me.

<Bill>

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 by: Char Jackson - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 01:36 UTC

On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:13:35 -0800, "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:

>It is modem and not a router.

I still think it's a router, but OK.

>There was 1 MAC I had not listed under access
>control that was in my DHCP list. I did not list it because the name
>referred to the Laptop and is not shown on the laptop tag. So I decided I
>had nothing to loose by listing it as accessible. The wireless now works
>with the ACCESS CONTROL set on. So I will search the MAC address on the
>internet for info on what it is attached to.

You might be able to quickly see your laptop's MAC address by opening a Command
Prompt window (on the laptop, of course) and typing:

ipconfig /all | find "Physical"

The result should be the physical address, which is another name for the MAC
address. Mine looks like this:

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : D4-BE-D9-50-51-08

>Maybe the wireless in the
>laptop. Sometimes I feel pretty dumb to getting this stuff figured out but
>I always push until I beat it in submission.
>
>Thanks for all your help and sticking with me.

No problem.

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 by: ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 04:02 UTC

Bill Bradshaw wrote on 4/12/24 10:13 AM:
> So I will search the MAC address on the
> internet for info on what it is attached to. Maybe the wireless in the
> laptop. Sometimes I feel pretty dumb to getting this stuff figured out but
> I always push until I beat it in submission.
>
> Thanks for all your help and sticking with me.
>
> <Bill>
>
>
Admin Command.com or Powershell
Type the following and press enter
getmac

For more detail(name, device, MAC, manufacturer, description, etc.)
Settings/Network and Internet/Advanced Network Settings
- Enabled Network adapters(Ethernet, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth) will be present
- Click down arrow chevron to expand an adapter properties
- Click 'View additional properties'

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 by: VanguardLH - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 22:30 UTC

Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

> You might be able to quickly see your laptop's MAC address by opening
> a Command Prompt window (on the laptop, of course) and typing:
>
> ipconfig /all | find "Physical"

"ipconfig /all" shows all your NICs. I have 2 wired in my desktop (so
it could be used as, say, a bridge). It also shows I have 3 wifi NICs,
and a Bluetooth NIC. So, you have to be sure which network adapter on
which to focus. You can see which got assigned an IP address, and which
did not.

winston mentioned getmac which I was not aware of. It shows the MAC
addresses, but also shows which ones are are connected, or not. New bit
of info to remember.

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 by: ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 23:57 UTC

VanguardLH wrote on 4/13/24 3:30 PM:
> Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>
>> You might be able to quickly see your laptop's MAC address by opening
>> a Command Prompt window (on the laptop, of course) and typing:
>>
>> ipconfig /all | find "Physical"
>
> "ipconfig /all" shows all your NICs. I have 2 wired in my desktop (so
> it could be used as, say, a bridge). It also shows I have 3 wifi NICs,
> and a Bluetooth NIC. So, you have to be sure which network adapter on
> which to focus. You can see which got assigned an IP address, and which
> did not.
>
> winston mentioned getmac which I was not aware of. It shows the MAC
> addresses, but also shows which ones are are connected, or not. New bit
> of info to remember.
>
:)

Try Powershell's
get-netadapter

Provides even more detail than getmac
Name, Interface Description, ifIndex, Status, MAC address and LinkSpeed

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 by: VanguardLH - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 01:30 UTC

winston <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> You might be able to quickly see your laptop's MAC address by opening
>>> a Command Prompt window (on the laptop, of course) and typing:
>>>
>>> ipconfig /all | find "Physical"
>>
>> "ipconfig /all" shows all your NICs. I have 2 wired in my desktop (so
>> it could be used as, say, a bridge). It also shows I have 3 wifi NICs,
>> and a Bluetooth NIC. So, you have to be sure which network adapter on
>> which to focus. You can see which got assigned an IP address, and which
>> did not.
>>
>> winston mentioned getmac which I was not aware of. It shows the MAC
>> addresses, but also shows which ones are are connected, or not. New bit
>> of info to remember.
>
> Try Powershell's
> get-netadapter
>
> Provides even more detail than getmac
> Name, Interface Description, ifIndex, Status, MAC address and LinkSpeed

Even more if you add the -includehidden switch, as in:

get -netadapter -includehidden

More info at:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/netadapter/get-netadapter?view=windowsserver2022-ps

I've been trying to avoid Powershell as often as possible, but sometimes
have to use it (after having to look online for help). I suppose one of
these days I'll have to get a Powershell for Dummies book, or similar.
My public library has several books on Powershell. So much for a quiet
retirement.

Ow, my brain hurts.

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 by: ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 17:21 UTC

VanguardLH wrote on 4/13/24 6:30 PM:
> winston <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You might be able to quickly see your laptop's MAC address by opening
>>>> a Command Prompt window (on the laptop, of course) and typing:
>>>>
>>>> ipconfig /all | find "Physical"
>>>
>>> "ipconfig /all" shows all your NICs. I have 2 wired in my desktop (so
>>> it could be used as, say, a bridge). It also shows I have 3 wifi NICs,
>>> and a Bluetooth NIC. So, you have to be sure which network adapter on
>>> which to focus. You can see which got assigned an IP address, and which
>>> did not.
>>>
>>> winston mentioned getmac which I was not aware of. It shows the MAC
>>> addresses, but also shows which ones are are connected, or not. New bit
>>> of info to remember.
>>
>> Try Powershell's
>> get-netadapter
>>
>> Provides even more detail than getmac
>> Name, Interface Description, ifIndex, Status, MAC address and LinkSpeed
>
> Even more if you add the -includehidden switch, as in:
>
> get -netadapter -includehidden
>
> More info at:
> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/netadapter/get-netadapter?view=windowsserver2022-ps
>
> I've been trying to avoid Powershell as often as possible, but sometimes
> have to use it (after having to look online for help). I suppose one of
> these days I'll have to get a Powershell for Dummies book, or similar.
> My public library has several books on Powershell. So much for a quiet
> retirement.
>
> Ow, my brain hurts.
>

Many ways to get the desired results.

To paraprhase - many ways to skin a cat...there are just too many
cats(i.e. all those hidden adapters that work within the o/s pretty much
under-the-hood in addition to the hardwware included(Ethernet, Wi-fi,
Bluetooth).

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