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SubjectAuthor
* Google Groups peersMarco Moock
+* Re: Google Groups peersJesse Rehmer
|+* Re: Google Groups peersMarco Moock
||`- Re: Google Groups peersD
|`* Re: Google Groups peersRay Banana
| `- Re: Google Groups peersAdam H. Kerman
`* Re: Google Groups peersMarco Moock
 `* Re: Google Groups peersMarco Moock
  `- Re: Google Groups peersMarco Moock

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Google Groups peers

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From: mm+usenet@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: news.admin.peering
Subject: Google Groups peers
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 10:21:50 +0200
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 by: Marco Moock - Fri, 15 Sep 2023 08:21 UTC

Hello!

I today tried to find out the peers of Google groups.
I used grep on Path for certain messages (10000) in sci.crypt.

The relevant result:
proxad.net
fu-berlin.de
highwinds-media.com
feed.tweak.nl
nntp.giganews.com
proxad.net

peer with Google groups, if anybody is interested according to the UDP
discussion.
Be aware that this is ONLY a view from that group and the posts on
solani.org, there might be more peers.

--
kind regards
Marco

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From: jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com (Jesse Rehmer)
Newsgroups: news.admin.peering
Subject: Re: Google Groups peers
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 13:44:09 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Jesse Rehmer - Fri, 15 Sep 2023 13:44 UTC

On Sep 15, 2023 at 3:21:50 AM CDT, "Marco Moock" <mm+usenet@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I today tried to find out the peers of Google groups.
> I used grep on Path for certain messages (10000) in sci.crypt.
>
> The relevant result:
> proxad.net
> fu-berlin.de
> highwinds-media.com
> feed.tweak.nl
> nntp.giganews.com
> proxad.net
>
> peer with Google groups, if anybody is interested according to the UDP
> discussion.
> Be aware that this is ONLY a view from that group and the posts on
> solani.org, there might be more peers.

There are a lot more than that. The majority of them are commercial providers.
You will not convince them to UDP Google.

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From: mm+usenet@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: news.admin.peering
Subject: Re: Google Groups peers
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 by: Marco Moock - Fri, 15 Sep 2023 14:03 UTC

Am 15.09.2023 schrieb Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com>:

> There are a lot more than that.

From where do you know that?

Did you analyze the messages that originate from Google?

I did that half-automated, but only for one group.

If somebody has an automate solution that can do that for the entire
news mailbox (since Sep 2021) on my machine, I will run it and post the
results.

Re: Google Groups peers

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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 16:28:30 +0200 (CEST)
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 by: D - Fri, 15 Sep 2023 14:28 UTC

On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 16:03:32 +0200, Marco Moock <mm+usenet@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>Am 15.09.2023 schrieb Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com>:
>> There are a lot more than that.
>From where do you know that?
>Did you analyze the messages that originate from Google?
>I did that half-automated, but only for one group.
>If somebody has an automate solution that can do that for the entire
>news mailbox (since Sep 2021) on my machine, I will run it and post the
>results.

that would be interesting, even to an old hobbyist

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From: rayban@raybanana.net (Ray Banana)
Newsgroups: news.admin.peering
Subject: Re: Google Groups peers
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 by: Ray Banana - Fri, 15 Sep 2023 15:05 UTC

Thus spake doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)

[...]
> Perl filter stats: Pass: 2972 Reject: 739 Refuse: 3 MD5: 944 PHL: 336 PHN: 0 PHR: 31 FSL: 342 Arts/sec: 0.1 Accept/sec: 0.1

> And since activate and modifying cleanfeed on a daily
> basis, the spam has significantly decreased!

And now take a look at soc.culture.punjab,com.lang.c,sci.crypt and
alt.comp.freeware - they even provide daily statistics, see

<2f3b4eaa2131a5d4763875dab3b6d519@dizum.com>

(valuable content from dizum - The Internet Problem Provider, would you
believe it?).

THAT is spam.

You seem to be filtering only the troll(s) in rec.arts.drwho.

--
Пу́тін — хуйло́
http://www.eternal-september.org

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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: news.admin.peering
Subject: Re: Google Groups peers
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 by: Marco Moock - Fri, 15 Sep 2023 17:26 UTC

Am 15.09.2023 um 14:20:45 Uhr schrieb The Doctor:

> Can we convince them to drop google groups as a peer?

I don't know.
It is possible to try it.

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From: ahk@chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman)
Newsgroups: news.admin.peering
Subject: Re: Google Groups peers
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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Fri, 15 Sep 2023 19:50 UTC

Ray Banana <rayban@raybanana.net> wrote:
>Thus spake doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)

>[...]
>> Perl filter stats: Pass: 2972 Reject: 739 Refuse: 3 MD5: 944 PHL:
>336 PHN: 0 PHR: 31 FSL: 342 Arts/sec: 0.1 Accept/sec: 0.1

>>And since activate and modifying cleanfeed on a daily
>>basis, the spam has significantly decreased!

>And now take a look at soc.culture.punjab,com.lang.c,sci.crypt and
>alt.comp.freeware - they even provide daily statistics, see

><2f3b4eaa2131a5d4763875dab3b6d519@dizum.com>

>(valuable content from dizum - The Internet Problem Provider, would you
>believe it?).

>THAT is spam.

>You seem to be filtering only the troll(s) in rec.arts.drwho.

Yads kill filed himself for spam trolling Tim as he claims Tim has been
spam trolling him? I should live so long.

Re: Google Groups peers

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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: news.admin.peering
Subject: Re: Google Groups peers
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 by: Marco Moock - Fri, 15 Sep 2023 19:52 UTC

Am 15.09.2023 um 19:38:12 Uhr schrieb The Doctor:

> As long as we have a case and we do!

I think we need to write these peers directly and not via a Google
conversation.

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 by: Marco Moock - Sat, 16 Sep 2023 05:37 UTC

Am 16.09.2023 um 03:13:16 Uhr schrieb The Doctor:

> Need to find the contacts!

news@fu-berlin.de

https://www.tweak.nl/contact.html

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