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* registry editorphilo
+- Re: registry editorAndy Burns
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+* Re: registry editorBig Al
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|   `* Re: registry editorBig Al
|    +- Re: registry editorAndy Burns
|    `- Re: registry editorKen Blake
+* Re: registry editorMassimiliano Crippa
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From: philo@news.novabbs.com (philo)
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Subject: registry editor
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:24:32 +0000
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 by: philo - Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:24 UTC

The context menu on Win10 is perfect for my needs and now that I'm up upgrading some of my machines to Win11,I hate the two-step context menu. It took a quick Google search to find the registry tweak and all is well.

My question is what kind of a genius knows all the complex key numbers and what they do?

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 by: Andy Burns - Fri, 23 Dec 2022 19:42 UTC

philo@news.novabbs.com (philo) wrote:

> what kind of a genius knows all the complex key numbers and what they do?

The author of WinAeroTweaker, that's who ...

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 by: Paul - Sat, 24 Dec 2022 05:17 UTC

On 12/23/2022 12:24 PM, philo wrote:
> The context menu on Win10 is perfect for my needs and now that I'm up upgrading some of my machines to Win11,I hate the two-step context menu. It took a quick Google search to find the registry tweak and all is well.
>
> My question is what kind of a genius knows all the complex key numbers and what they do?

The developer who put it there ? :-)

https://i.postimg.cc/285q35rQ/Win11-Context-Menu.gif

I'm really surprised that's labeled, even if the
label leaves a lot to the imagination. Not every
GUID-type identifier on the machine, has such labeling.

*******

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier

"In COM

There are several flavors of GUIDs used in Microsoft's Component Object Model (COM):

CLSID – class identifier; (Stored at [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID])
"

Not that it really matters when you're trying to fix something :-)

*******

This is just as mysterious as "entry points on shell32.dll".
They have small integer numbers, and each one performs
some desired operation. The fun begins, when software tries
to use a non-existent entry point, and crashola is the result.
This can be a hint that malware may have been present. I had a
problem with a non-existent entry point on Windows XP. Never
did figure it out.

Paul

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 by: Big Al - Sat, 24 Dec 2022 12:38 UTC

On 12/23/22 12:24, this is what philo wrote:
> The context menu on Win10 is perfect for my needs and now that I'm up upgrading some of my machines to Win11,I hate the
> two-step context menu. It took a quick Google search to find the registry tweak and all is well.
>
> My question is what kind of a genius knows all the complex key numbers and what they do?
Try this.
https://www.howtogeek.com/759449/how-to-get-full-context-menus-in-windows-11s-file-explorer/

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 by: Ken Blake - Sat, 24 Dec 2022 15:17 UTC

On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 07:38:28 -0500, Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 12/23/22 12:24, this is what philo wrote:
>> The context menu on Win10 is perfect for my needs and now that I'm up upgrading some of my machines to Win11,I hate the
>> two-step context menu. It took a quick Google search to find the registry tweak and all is well.
>>
>> My question is what kind of a genius knows all the complex key numbers and what they do?
>Try this.
>https://www.howtogeek.com/759449/how-to-get-full-context-menus-in-windows-11s-file-explorer/

You can also use the free WinAeroTweaker to get full context menus. I
highly recommend WinAeroTweaker; it can do lots of useful things, not
just that.

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 by: Big Al - Sat, 24 Dec 2022 16:24 UTC

On 12/24/22 10:17, this is what Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 07:38:28 -0500, Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 12/23/22 12:24, this is what philo wrote:
>>> The context menu on Win10 is perfect for my needs and now that I'm up upgrading some of my machines to Win11,I hate the
>>> two-step context menu. It took a quick Google search to find the registry tweak and all is well.
>>>
>>> My question is what kind of a genius knows all the complex key numbers and what they do?
>> Try this.
>> https://www.howtogeek.com/759449/how-to-get-full-context-menus-in-windows-11s-file-explorer/
>
>
> You can also use the free WinAeroTweaker to get full context menus. I
> highly recommend WinAeroTweaker; it can do lots of useful things, not
> just that.
I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

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 by: Ken Blake - Sat, 24 Dec 2022 17:04 UTC

On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 11:24:00 -0500, Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 12/24/22 10:17, this is what Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 07:38:28 -0500, Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/23/22 12:24, this is what philo wrote:
>>>> The context menu on Win10 is perfect for my needs and now that I'm up upgrading some of my machines to Win11,I hate the
>>>> two-step context menu. It took a quick Google search to find the registry tweak and all is well.
>>>>
>>>> My question is what kind of a genius knows all the complex key numbers and what they do?
>>> Try this.
>>> https://www.howtogeek.com/759449/how-to-get-full-context-menus-in-windows-11s-file-explorer/
>>
>>
>> You can also use the free WinAeroTweaker to get full context menus. I
>> highly recommend WinAeroTweaker; it can do lots of useful things, not
>> just that.
>I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

You're welcome. Glad to help.

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 by: Big Al - Sat, 24 Dec 2022 21:49 UTC

On 12/24/22 12:04, this is what Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 11:24:00 -0500, Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 12/24/22 10:17, this is what Ken Blake wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 07:38:28 -0500, Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/23/22 12:24, this is what philo wrote:
>>>>> The context menu on Win10 is perfect for my needs and now that I'm up upgrading some of my machines to Win11,I hate the
>>>>> two-step context menu. It took a quick Google search to find the registry tweak and all is well.
>>>>>
>>>>> My question is what kind of a genius knows all the complex key numbers and what they do?
>>>> Try this.
>>>> https://www.howtogeek.com/759449/how-to-get-full-context-menus-in-windows-11s-file-explorer/
>>>
>>>
>>> You can also use the free WinAeroTweaker to get full context menus. I
>>> highly recommend WinAeroTweaker; it can do lots of useful things, not
>>> just that.
>> I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.
>
> You're welcome. Glad to help.
I'll take that back. I installed and tried it, and it took me 1/2 and hour to get my UI preferences back to workable.
I lost colors on the toolbar/titlebars, fonts all screwy. I thought I was being cautions of what I was doing, but I
kinda wish the help was a bit more descriptive other that a webpage link. Minor issue.

I did get window borders out of the whole deal. That was one item I hate in windows 11, I can't see a black on black
window edge.

I may do it again but one or two changes at a time. That way I'll be able to put blame on what setting I shouldn't do.
No harm, it was don't on a VM copy of Win11.
Al.

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 by: Massimiliano Crippa - Sun, 25 Dec 2022 00:15 UTC

On 12/23/2022 6:24 PM, philo wrote:
> The context menu on Win10 is perfect for my needs and now that I'm up
> upgrading some of my machines to Win11,I hate the two-step context menu.
> It took a quick Google search to find the registry tweak and all is well.
>
> My question is what kind of a genius knows all the complex key numbers
> and what they do?

I think Shell is the better shell extension I tried till now!

https://nilesoft.org

Better then Windows 10 and 11 context menus!

Max

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 by: Andy Burns - Sun, 25 Dec 2022 02:11 UTC

Big Al wrote:

> Ken Blake wrote:
>
>> I highly recommend WinAeroTweaker; it can do lots of useful things
>
> I may do it again but one or two changes at a time.

Yes, do avoid the child-in-a-sweetshop effect ...

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Subject: Re: registry editor Follow up
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 by: philo - Sun, 25 Dec 2022 14:34 UTC

On 12/23/22 11:24 AM, philo wrote:
> The context menu on Win10 is perfect for my needs and now that I'm up
> upgrading some of my machines to Win11,I hate the two-step context menu.
> It took a quick Google search to find the registry tweak and all is well.
>
> My question is what kind of a genius knows all the complex key numbers
> and what they do?

Thank you to everyone who replied.

Although I know how to use 3rd party utilities, on this machine I wanted
to do nothing more than simply modify the context menu... and by
performing the registry tweak was able to do so with no trouble.

My question was simply how to developers assign those registry numbers ?

Is there a certain meaning, or do they simply make up some unique number
and insert it?

Still recall getting my first Win95 computer and after six months
thinking I had it all figured out...then someone mentioned the registry.

What the heck is that ?

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From: usenet@andyburns.uk (Andy Burns)
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 by: Andy Burns - Sun, 25 Dec 2022 14:45 UTC

philo wrote:

> how to developers assign those registry numbers ?

Like {86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2} you mean?

They're essentially random, i.e. a way to /almost/ guarantee they're unique
without having to worry about generating them

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier>

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 by: Ken Blake - Sun, 25 Dec 2022 16:14 UTC

On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 16:49:28 -0500, Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 12/24/22 12:04, this is what Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 11:24:00 -0500, Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/24/22 10:17, this is what Ken Blake wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 07:38:28 -0500, Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/23/22 12:24, this is what philo wrote:
>>>>>> The context menu on Win10 is perfect for my needs and now that I'm up upgrading some of my machines to Win11,I hate the
>>>>>> two-step context menu. It took a quick Google search to find the registry tweak and all is well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question is what kind of a genius knows all the complex key numbers and what they do?
>>>>> Try this.
>>>>> https://www.howtogeek.com/759449/how-to-get-full-context-menus-in-windows-11s-file-explorer/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can also use the free WinAeroTweaker to get full context menus. I
>>>> highly recommend WinAeroTweaker; it can do lots of useful things, not
>>>> just that.
>>> I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.
>>
>> You're welcome. Glad to help.
>I'll take that back. I installed and tried it, and it took me 1/2 and hour to get my UI preferences back to workable.
>I lost colors on the toolbar/titlebars, fonts all screwy. I thought I was being cautions of what I was doing, but I
>kinda wish the help was a bit more descriptive other that a webpage link. Minor issue.
>
>I did get window borders out of the whole deal. That was one item I hate in windows 11, I can't see a black on black
>window edge.
>
>I may do it again but one or two changes at a time.

Yes, that's the prudent way to do most things.

> That way I'll be able to put blame on what setting I shouldn't do.
>No harm, it was don't on a VM copy of Win11.
> Al.

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 by: philo - Mon, 26 Dec 2022 21:49 UTC

On 12/25/2022 8:45 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> philo wrote:
>
>> how to developers assign those registry numbers ?
>
> Like {86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2} you mean?
>
> They're essentially random, i.e. a way to /almost/ guarantee they're
> unique without having to worry about generating them
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier>

Thank you.

Makes good sense !

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 by: philo - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 14:06 UTC

On 12/24/22 6:15 PM, Massimiliano Crippa wrote:
> On 12/23/2022 6:24 PM, philo wrote:
>> The context menu on Win10 is perfect for my needs and now that I'm up
>> upgrading some of my machines to Win11,I hate the two-step context
>> menu. It took a quick Google search to find the registry tweak and all
>> is well.
>>
>> My question is what kind of a genius knows all the complex key numbers
>> and what they do?
>
> I think Shell is the better shell extension I tried till now!
>
> https://nilesoft.org
>
> Better then Windows 10 and 11 context menus!
>
> Max

On this machine, I am not the only user , so wanted to make the absolute
minimum of changes bit will probably take your suggestion when I move my
main Windows machine to Win11

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 by: Mayayana - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 14:48 UTC

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote

| >> how to developers assign those registry numbers ?
| >
| > Like {86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2} you mean?
| >
| > They're essentially random, i.e. a way to /almost/ guarantee they're
| > unique without having to worry about generating them
| >
| > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier>
| |
| | Thank you.
| | Makes good sense !

I wondered what you were talking about. Microsoft actually
makes a program for that, and there's probably an API function.
I don't remember offhand. The number, which is hexadecimal,
is created from "seeds" such as current time, machine IDs, etc.
The only point is to have a character string that's guaranteed
unique. As well as UUID, it can also be known as a class ID or
CLSID. (Note the CLSID key under HKCR. That's basically just an
index lookup of definable items on the system. Much of that is
related to COM, which provides a system to look up DLLs and
such in a way that's partially self-documenting.

If you look under those CLSID subkeys, you'll see each has
a CLSID as name. A particular CLSID corresponds to "My Computer",
for example and can specify the icon for it. Another CLSID might
represent an activeX control object or an object ("class") in
an executable COM file. ("server") For example, someone
who wants to automate IE can call the InternetExplorer.Application
object. That's the ProgID corresponding to the CLSID. If you look
that up under HKCR you find the CLSID is this:
{0002DF01-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}
Looking that up under HKCR\CLSID yields the path of the file,
type library information, etc.

But unique IDs can be used in any situation where ambiguity
needs to be avoided in identifying "objects".

All of that becomes unnecessarily complicated because MS
make a deliberate effort to discourage people controlling
the system and possibly breaking things. In that they've always
been ID-crazy. It's like a bunch of pre-adolescent teenage boys
with secret decoder rings. The Registry is specifically designed to
be indecipherable. As are most things Microsoft.


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