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by: Grimble - Sun, 24 Mar 2024 17:36 UTC

I use dnf to manage updates on two machines. On one, the recent 200+
list of packages was successfully completed. On this machine, dnf
continually returns "Nothing to do" despite the mgaapplet showing that
updates are available.
The list of enabled repos is the same, and the contents of dnf.conf are
#dnf install dnf had no effect.
This is a recent development, because dnf ran last successfully on this
machine on 21 March with 4 updates.
Anyone with an idea where else to look?
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by: David W. Hodgins - Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:19 UTC

On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 13:36:54 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> I use dnf to manage updates on two machines. On one, the recent 200+
> list of packages was successfully completed. On this machine, dnf
> continually returns "Nothing to do" despite the mgaapplet showing that
> updates are available.
> The list of enabled repos is the same, and the contents of dnf.conf are
> #dnf install dnf had no effect.
> This is a recent development, because dnf ran last successfully on this
> machine on 21 March with 4 updates.
> Anyone with an idea where else to look?

What's the output of "dnf -v list --upgrades --refresh"?

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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by: Grimble - Mon, 25 Mar 2024 13:36 UTC

On 24/03/2024 19:19, David W. Hodgins wrote:
> dnf -v list --upgrades --refresh
Interesting Dave. Both updates-x86_64-nonfree and updates-x86_64 had
out-of-date metadata:

mageia-x86_64-nonfree: using metadata from Sat 19 Aug 2023 20:05:01 BST.
Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Nonfree - Updates
reviving: failed for 'updates-x86_64-nonfree', mismatched repomd.
repo: downloading from remote: updates-x86_64-nonfree
Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Nonfree - Updates
updates-x86_64-nonfree: using metadata from Thu 21 Mar 2024 04:44:16 GMT.
Mageia 9 - x86_64
reviving: 'mageia-x86_64' can be revived - repomd matches.
mageia-x86_64: using metadata from Sat 19 Aug 2023 22:28:00 BST.
Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Updates
reviving: failed for 'updates-x86_64', mismatched repomd.
repo: downloading from remote: updates-x86_64
Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Updates
updates-x86_64: using metadata from Mon 18 Mar 2024 16:08:01 GMT.

However, dnf still claims no updates available.
--
Grimble
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Mageia release 9 (Official) for x86_64

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by: David W. Hodgins - Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:47 UTC

On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 09:36:02 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 24/03/2024 19:19, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>> dnf -v list --upgrades --refresh
> Interesting Dave. Both updates-x86_64-nonfree and updates-x86_64 had
> out-of-date metadata:
>
> mageia-x86_64-nonfree: using metadata from Sat 19 Aug 2023 20:05:01 BST.
> Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Nonfree - Updates
> reviving: failed for 'updates-x86_64-nonfree', mismatched repomd.
> repo: downloading from remote: updates-x86_64-nonfree
> Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Nonfree - Updates
> updates-x86_64-nonfree: using metadata from Thu 21 Mar 2024 04:44:16 GMT.
> Mageia 9 - x86_64
> reviving: 'mageia-x86_64' can be revived - repomd matches.
> mageia-x86_64: using metadata from Sat 19 Aug 2023 22:28:00 BST.
> Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Updates
> reviving: failed for 'updates-x86_64', mismatched repomd.
> repo: downloading from remote: updates-x86_64
> Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Updates
> updates-x86_64: using metadata from Mon 18 Mar 2024 16:08:01 GMT.
>
> However, dnf still claims no updates available.

Including the "list" command just shows if there are updates available

To actually update the metadata run it again without list.

"dnf -v --upgrades --refresh".

It would be better to figure out why dnfdragora is not updating the list
as it should, but I haven't used it much and am not sure how to go about
debugging it.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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by: TJ - Mon, 25 Mar 2024 21:26 UTC

On 2024-03-25 12:47, David W. Hodgins wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 09:36:02 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 24/03/2024 19:19, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>>> dnf -v list --upgrades --refresh
>> Interesting Dave. Both updates-x86_64-nonfree and updates-x86_64 had
>> out-of-date metadata:
>>
>> mageia-x86_64-nonfree: using metadata from Sat 19 Aug 2023 20:05:01 BST.
>> Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Nonfree - Updates
>> reviving: failed for 'updates-x86_64-nonfree', mismatched repomd.
>> repo: downloading from remote: updates-x86_64-nonfree
>> Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Nonfree - Updates
>> updates-x86_64-nonfree: using metadata from Thu 21 Mar 2024 04:44:16 GMT.
>> Mageia 9 - x86_64
>> reviving: 'mageia-x86_64' can be revived - repomd matches.
>> mageia-x86_64: using metadata from Sat 19 Aug 2023 22:28:00 BST.
>> Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Updates
>> reviving: failed for 'updates-x86_64', mismatched repomd.
>> repo: downloading from remote: updates-x86_64
>> Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Updates
>> updates-x86_64: using metadata from Mon 18 Mar 2024 16:08:01 GMT.
>>
>> However, dnf still claims no updates available.
>
> Including the "list" command just shows if there are updates available
>
> To actually update the metadata run it again without list.
>
> "dnf -v --upgrades --refresh".
>
> It would be better to figure out why dnfdragora is not updating the list
> as it should, but I haven't used it much and am not sure how to go about
> debugging it.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins

FWIW, the distrib-coffee Tier 1 mirror has been down for a few days, and
that means all the mirrors that use it as a source are also out-of-date.

If you are using one of those mirrors, you should switch to one from
https://mirrors.mageia.org/status that shows as green.

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by: Grimble - Tue, 26 Mar 2024 13:40 UTC

On 25/03/2024 16:47, David W. Hodgins wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 09:36:02 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 24/03/2024 19:19, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>>> dnf -v list --upgrades --refresh
>> Interesting Dave. Both updates-x86_64-nonfree and updates-x86_64 had
>> out-of-date metadata:
>>
>> mageia-x86_64-nonfree: using metadata from Sat 19 Aug 2023 20:05:01 BST.
>> Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Nonfree - Updates
>> reviving: failed for 'updates-x86_64-nonfree', mismatched repomd.
>> repo: downloading from remote: updates-x86_64-nonfree
>> Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Nonfree - Updates
>> updates-x86_64-nonfree: using metadata from Thu 21 Mar 2024 04:44:16 GMT.
>> Mageia 9 - x86_64
>> reviving: 'mageia-x86_64' can be revived - repomd matches.
>> mageia-x86_64: using metadata from Sat 19 Aug 2023 22:28:00 BST.
>> Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Updates
>> reviving: failed for 'updates-x86_64', mismatched repomd.
>> repo: downloading from remote: updates-x86_64
>> Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Updates
>> updates-x86_64: using metadata from Mon 18 Mar 2024 16:08:01 GMT.
>>
>> However, dnf still claims no updates available.
>
> Including the "list" command just shows if there are updates available
>
> To actually update the metadata run it again without list.
>
> "dnf -v --upgrades --refresh".
>
> It would be better to figure out why dnfdragora is not updating the list
> as it should, but I haven't used it much and am not sure how to go about
> debugging it.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
Thanks, Dave. I don't use dnfdragora - I run dnf from a script in
cron.daily. I first run dnf check-update to see how many updates are
waiting (I thought about doing a checkpoint if there many updates to
apply). There must be something amiss with this, because that is where I
exit if no updates are expected. It ran at 4:02 this morning with zero
result, but I've just run #dnf -v upgrade from the command line and it
all worked - 242 packages.
Further investigation needed.
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Grimble
Machine 'Haydn' running Plasma 5.27.10 on 6.6.18-desktop-1.mga9 kernel.
Mageia release 9 (Official) for x86_64

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by: jim whitby - Tue, 26 Mar 2024 14:54 UTC

> On 25/03/2024 16:47, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 09:36:02 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 24/03/2024 19:19, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>>>> dnf -v list --upgrades --refresh
>>> Interesting Dave. Both updates-x86_64-nonfree and updates-x86_64 had
>>> out-of-date metadata:
>>>
>>> mageia-x86_64-nonfree: using metadata from Sat 19 Aug 2023 20:05:01
>>> BST. Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Nonfree - Updates reviving: failed for
>>> 'updates-x86_64-nonfree', mismatched repomd.
>>> repo: downloading from remote: updates-x86_64-nonfree Mageia 9 -
>>> x86_64 - Nonfree - Updates updates-x86_64-nonfree: using metadata from
>>> Thu 21 Mar 2024 04:44:16 GMT.
>>> Mageia 9 - x86_64 reviving: 'mageia-x86_64' can be revived - repomd
>>> matches. mageia-x86_64: using metadata from Sat 19 Aug 2023 22:28:00
>>> BST.
>>> Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Updates reviving: failed for 'updates-x86_64',
>>> mismatched repomd.
>>> repo: downloading from remote: updates-x86_64 Mageia 9 - x86_64 -
>>> Updates updates-x86_64: using metadata from Mon 18 Mar 2024 16:08:01
>>> GMT.
>>>
>>> However, dnf still claims no updates available.
>>
>> Including the "list" command just shows if there are updates available
>>
>> To actually update the metadata run it again without list.
>>
>> "dnf -v --upgrades --refresh".
>>
>> It would be better to figure out why dnfdragora is not updating the
>> list as it should, but I haven't used it much and am not sure how to go
>> about debugging it.
>>
>> Regards, Dave Hodgins
> Thanks, Dave. I don't use dnfdragora - I run dnf from a script in
> cron.daily. I first run dnf check-update to see how many updates are
> waiting (I thought about doing a checkpoint if there many updates to
> apply). There must be something amiss with this, because that is where I
> exit if no updates are expected. It ran at 4:02 this morning with zero
> result, but I've just run #dnf -v upgrade from the command line and it
> all worked - 242 packages.
> Further investigation needed.

Timing differences between when metada was last updated, script run and
when you ran dnf upgrade.

Might help to update metadata when you run script.
E.G.: dnf --refresh check-update

--
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by: Grimble - Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:57 UTC

On 26/03/2024 14:54, jim whitby wrote:
>> On 25/03/2024 16:47, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 09:36:02 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 24/03/2024 19:19, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>>>>> dnf -v list --upgrades --refresh
>>>> Interesting Dave. Both updates-x86_64-nonfree and updates-x86_64 had
>>>> out-of-date metadata:
>>>>
>>>> mageia-x86_64-nonfree: using metadata from Sat 19 Aug 2023 20:05:01
>>>> BST. Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Nonfree - Updates reviving: failed for
>>>> 'updates-x86_64-nonfree', mismatched repomd.
>>>> repo: downloading from remote: updates-x86_64-nonfree Mageia 9 -
>>>> x86_64 - Nonfree - Updates updates-x86_64-nonfree: using metadata from
>>>> Thu 21 Mar 2024 04:44:16 GMT.
>>>> Mageia 9 - x86_64 reviving: 'mageia-x86_64' can be revived - repomd
>>>> matches. mageia-x86_64: using metadata from Sat 19 Aug 2023 22:28:00
>>>> BST.
>>>> Mageia 9 - x86_64 - Updates reviving: failed for 'updates-x86_64',
>>>> mismatched repomd.
>>>> repo: downloading from remote: updates-x86_64 Mageia 9 - x86_64 -
>>>> Updates updates-x86_64: using metadata from Mon 18 Mar 2024 16:08:01
>>>> GMT.
>>>>
>>>> However, dnf still claims no updates available.
>>>
>>> Including the "list" command just shows if there are updates available
>>>
>>> To actually update the metadata run it again without list.
>>>
>>> "dnf -v --upgrades --refresh".
>>>
>>> It would be better to figure out why dnfdragora is not updating the
>>> list as it should, but I haven't used it much and am not sure how to go
>>> about debugging it.
>>>
>>> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>> Thanks, Dave. I don't use dnfdragora - I run dnf from a script in
>> cron.daily. I first run dnf check-update to see how many updates are
>> waiting (I thought about doing a checkpoint if there many updates to
>> apply). There must be something amiss with this, because that is where I
>> exit if no updates are expected. It ran at 4:02 this morning with zero
>> result, but I've just run #dnf -v upgrade from the command line and it
>> all worked - 242 packages.
>> Further investigation needed.
>
> Timing differences between when metada was last updated, script run and
> when you ran dnf upgrade.
>
> Might help to update metadata when you run script.
> E.G.: dnf --refresh check-update
>
>
>
>
>
Sorry Jim, I didn't show the complete command - I do --refresh
--
Grimble
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by: jim whitby - Tue, 26 Mar 2024 17:52 UTC

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> Sorry Jim, I didn't show the complete command - I do --refresh

Is this occuring *all* the time? If not.

Still might be a timing proplem...
If the mirror was updated after the check, and before you ran manually...
Presuming the metadata was updated when you ran manually.

Otherwise, I'm a lost babe in the woods.

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Jim Whitby

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Subject	Author
dnf doesn't find updates	Grimble
Re: dnf doesn't find updates	David W. Hodgins
Re: dnf doesn't find updates	Grimble
Re: dnf doesn't find updates	David W. Hodgins
Re: dnf doesn't find updates	TJ
Re: dnf doesn't find updates	Grimble
Re: dnf doesn't find updates	jim whitby
Re: dnf doesn't find updates	Grimble
Re: dnf doesn't find updates	jim whitby