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* Not clear what mgaapplet-update-checker wants to sayMarkus Robert Kessler
+- Re: Not clear what mgaapplet-update-checker wants to sayJim
+* Re: Not clear what mgaapplet-update-checker wants to sayTJ
|`* Re: Not clear what mgaapplet-update-checker wants to sayVincent Coen
| +- Re: Not clear what mgaapplet-update-checker wants to sayMarkus Robert Kessler
| `- Re: Not clear what mgaapplet-update-checker wants to sayTJ
`* Re: Not clear what mgaapplet-update-checker wants to sayVincent Coen
 `- Re: Not clear what mgaapplet-update-checker wants to sayMarkus Robert Kessler

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 by: Markus Robert Kessle - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 07:12 UTC

Hi all,

usually I use mcc to update installed packages.

Installed is:

$ uname -a
Linux linuxnb1 6.6.18-desktop-1.mga9 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 24
00:23:52 UTC 2024 i686 GNU/Linux

When I do a manual mgaapplet-update-checker, then I get something like
this:

$ mgaapplet-update-checker
Ignore the following Glib::Object::Introspection & Gtk3 warnings
Subroutine Gtk3::main redefined at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Gtk3.pm
line 539.
getting exclusive lock on urpmi
unlocking urpmi database
medium "Core Updates" is up-to-date
medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date
medium "Tainted Updates" is up-to-date
using mirror https://mirror2.tuxinator.org/mageia/distrib/9/i586
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Updates/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Backports/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Release/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Updates/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Backports/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Release/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Updates/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Backports/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586

[...] and so on.

Does this mean something (wrong packages installed or so)?

Best regards,

Markus

Re: Not clear what mgaapplet-update-checker wants to say

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 by: Jim - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 13:53 UTC

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 07:12:45 -0000 (UTC), Markus Robert Kessler wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> usually I use mcc to update installed packages.
>
> Installed is:
>
> $ uname -a
> Linux linuxnb1 6.6.18-desktop-1.mga9 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 24
> 00:23:52 UTC 2024 i686 GNU/Linux
>
> When I do a manual mgaapplet-update-checker, then I get something like
> this:
>
> $ mgaapplet-update-checker
> Ignore the following Glib::Object::Introspection & Gtk3 warnings
> Subroutine Gtk3::main redefined at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Gtk3.pm
> line 539.
> getting exclusive lock on urpmi
> unlocking urpmi database
> medium "Core Updates" is up-to-date
> medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date
> medium "Tainted Updates" is up-to-date
> using mirror https://mirror2.tuxinator.org/mageia/distrib/9/i586
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Updates/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Backports/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Release/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Updates/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Backports/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Release/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Updates/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Backports/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
>
> [...] and so on.
>
> Does this mean something (wrong packages installed or so)?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Markus

Perhaps load mcc and looked at Configure media sources for
install and update ?

And then go to /etc/urpmi and look at the contents of
configuration files there ?

I speculate urpmi has instructions to look at a media
source in one place and in another has no instruction
to use or update the files listed for it.

Should cause no harm to just leave it as is.

Cheers!

jim b.

--
UNIX is not user-unfriendly, it merely
expects users to be computer friendly.

Re: Not clear what mgaapplet-update-checker wants to say

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 by: TJ - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 16:54 UTC

On 2024-03-17 03:12, Markus Robert Kessler wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> usually I use mcc to update installed packages.
>
> Installed is:
>
> $ uname -a
> Linux linuxnb1 6.6.18-desktop-1.mga9 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 24
> 00:23:52 UTC 2024 i686 GNU/Linux
>
> When I do a manual mgaapplet-update-checker, then I get something like
> this:
>
> $ mgaapplet-update-checker
> Ignore the following Glib::Object::Introspection & Gtk3 warnings
> Subroutine Gtk3::main redefined at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Gtk3.pm
> line 539.
> getting exclusive lock on urpmi
> unlocking urpmi database
> medium "Core Updates" is up-to-date
> medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date
> medium "Tainted Updates" is up-to-date
> using mirror https://mirror2.tuxinator.org/mageia/distrib/9/i586
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Updates/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Backports/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Release/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Updates/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Backports/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Release/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Updates/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Backports/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
>
> [...] and so on.
>
> Does this mean something (wrong packages installed or so)?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Markus

The last several indicate that that kernels would be installed, rather
than updated. Mageia does not remove old kernels when updating to new
ones, as it does with "normal" updates. This is so the user can still
boot into one of those older kernels should the new one fail.

Older kernels must be removed manually, or with the Remove Old Kernels app.

The messages you quote are normal, and can be ignored.

TJ

Re: Not clear what mgaapplet-update-checker wants to say

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 by: Vincent Coen - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 17:37 UTC

Hello Markus!

Sunday March 17 2024 07:12, Markus Robert Kessler wrote to All:

No it just means that these are available with NO consideration as to you
hardware and system set up etc.

Just did the same with a long list of kernels and many old and not for X64
CPU's etc.

But running updater there is a stack of updates available so installed them
and rerun it with similar comments for server, desktop, linus etc.
The results are the same even when using prefix sudo to run it.

Ignore them as not helpful - just run the normal updater - MageiaUpdate.

Vince

> Hi all,

> usually I use mcc to update installed packages.

> Installed is:

> $ uname -a
> Linux linuxnb1 6.6.18-desktop-1.mga9 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 24

> 00:23:52 UTC 2024 i686 GNU/Linux

> When I do a manual mgaapplet-update-checker, then I get something like

> this:

> $ mgaapplet-update-checker
> Ignore the following Glib::Object::Introspection & Gtk3 warnings
> Subroutine Gtk3::main redefined at
> /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Gtk3.pm line 539. getting exclusive lock
> on urpmi unlocking urpmi database medium "Core Updates" is up-to-date
> medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date medium "Tainted Updates" is
> up-to-date using mirror
> https://mirror2.tuxinator.org/mageia/distrib/9/i586 examining
> synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core
> Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file
> [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Updates/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis
> file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining
> synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree
> Release/ synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file
> [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Updates/ synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining
> synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Release/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Updates/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Backports/
> synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> desktop586-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
> would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> devel-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586

> [...] and so on.

> Does this mean something (wrong packages installed or so)?

> Best regards,

> Markus

Vincent

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 by: Markus Robert Kessle - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 18:45 UTC

Hello Vincent, TJ, Jim!

Thanks a lot for clarifying this,
yes, good to know!

Best regards,

Markus

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 17:37:39 +0000 Vincent Coen wrote:

> Hello Markus!
>
> Sunday March 17 2024 07:12, Markus Robert Kessler wrote to All:
>
> No it just means that these are available with NO consideration as to
> you hardware and system set up etc.
>
> Just did the same with a long list of kernels and many old and not for
> X64 CPU's etc.
>
> But running updater there is a stack of updates available so installed
> them and rerun it with similar comments for server, desktop, linus etc.
> The results are the same even when using prefix sudo to run it.
>
> Ignore them as not helpful - just run the normal updater - MageiaUpdate.
>
> Vince
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > usually I use mcc to update installed packages.
>
> > Installed is:
>
> > $ uname -a Linux linuxnb1 6.6.18-desktop-1.mga9 #1 SMP
> > PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 24
>
> > 00:23:52 UTC 2024 i686 GNU/Linux
>
> > When I do a manual mgaapplet-update-checker, then I get something
> > like
>
> > this:
>
> > $ mgaapplet-update-checker Ignore the following
> > Glib::Object::Introspection & Gtk3 warnings Subroutine Gtk3::main
> > redefined at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Gtk3.pm line 539. getting
> > exclusive lock on urpmi unlocking urpmi database medium "Core
> > Updates" is up-to-date medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date medium
> > "Tainted Updates" is up-to-date using mirror
> > https://mirror2.tuxinator.org/mageia/distrib/9/i586 examining
> > synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> > examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core
> > Updates/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file
> > [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining
> > synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Release/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> > examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Updates/
> > synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree
> > Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> > examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Release/
> > synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> > examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Updates/
> > synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> > examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Backports/
> > synthesis.hdlist.cz]
> > would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> > desktop586-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586 would install instead of upgrade package
> > kernel- desktop586-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586 would install instead of
> > upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586 would install
> > instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
> > would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
> > desktop586-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586 would install instead of upgrade
> > package kernel- desktop586-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586 would install instead
> > of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586 would
> > install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> > devel-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586 would install instead of upgrade package
> > kernel-desktop586- devel-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586 would install instead of
> > upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586 would
> > install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
> > devel-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586 would install instead of upgrade package
> > kernel-desktop586- devel-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
>
> > [...] and so on.
>
> > Does this mean something (wrong packages installed or so)?
>
> > Best regards,
>
> > Markus
>
>
>
> Vincent

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Re: Not clear what mgaapplet-update-checker wants to say

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 by: Vincent Coen - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 20:51 UTC

Hello TJ!

Sunday March 17 2024 16:54, TJ wrote to All:

> Older kernels must be removed manually, or with the Remove Old Kernels
> app.

What is that one, package/name etc ?

Vincent

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 20:51:08 +0000 Vincent Coen wrote:

> Hello TJ!
>
> Sunday March 17 2024 16:54, TJ wrote to All:
>
>
> > Older kernels must be removed manually, or with the Remove Old
> > Kernels app.
>
> What is that one, package/name etc ?
>
>
> Vincent

Hi,

looks as if
rpm -qi bootloader-utils
can do this.

Best regards,

Markus

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On 2024-03-17 16:51, Vincent Coen wrote:
> Hello TJ!
>
> Sunday March 17 2024 16:54, TJ wrote to All:
>
>
> > Older kernels must be removed manually, or with the Remove Old Kernels
> > app.
>
> What is that one, package/name etc ?
>
>
> Vincent
>
>
This will shock you: "remove-old-kernels" is the package name. It's new
for Mageia 9. Be sure to RTFM. (man rok)

The default is to remove all but the last three kernels of each flavor
(desktop, server, linus), but can be customized. The default is to run
weekly, but it can be run manually, as well.

TJ

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