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From: rowlett@cloud85.net (Richard Owlett)
Subject: First time IRC /Chatzilla user needs
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 by: Richard Owlett - Sat, 3 Jun 2023 13:41 UTC

I've been told to go to a specific IRC channel for some information.
Approaching 80 and on the web since Netscape, I've never used IRC.
All my SeaMonkey installs have used only defaults, never needed add-ons.

My web search indicates that ChatZilla is installed by default.
I don't see it.

I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian 9.13 .
I have later software on a different machine.
But, for now this is what I have available.

What should I be reading?
Decades in customer support taught me that "newbies" often don't realize
how much they don't know. At least I recognize my newbie status in this.

Help please.
TIA

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 by: Ray_Net - Sat, 3 Jun 2023 22:20 UTC

In article <ZQydnWwEabyP3ub5nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@supernews.com>, rowlett@cloud85.net says...
>
> I've been told to go to a specific IRC channel for some information.
> Approaching 80 and on the web since Netscape, I've never used IRC.
> All my SeaMonkey installs have used only defaults, never needed add-ons.
>
> My web search indicates that ChatZilla is installed by default.
> I don't see it.

Perhaps you should click on "Window" then click on "IRC Chat"

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From: daniel47@nomail.afraid.org (Daniel65)
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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 4 Jun 2023 10:09 UTC

Richard Owlett wrote on 3/6/23 11:41 pm:
> I've been told to go to a specific IRC channel for some information.
> Approaching 80 and on the web since Netscape, I've never used IRC.
> All my SeaMonkey installs have used only defaults, never needed
> add-ons.
>
> My web search indicates that ChatZilla is installed by default. I
> don't see it.
>
> I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian 9.13 . I have later software on
> a different machine. But, for now this is what I have available.
>
> What should I be reading? Decades in customer support taught me that
> "newbies" often don't realize how much they don't know. At least I
> recognize my newbie status in this.
>
> Help please. TIA
>
Richard, down in the bottom left of your SeaMonkey screen, how many
little icons do you see?? 4 or 5??

If 5 icons, if you 'mouse-over' them, one should be for 'IRC Chat' (the
'cZ' icon). If you click on that icon, what happens??

If only 4 icons, that would suggest (at least to me) that when your
SeaMonkey 2.49.4 was install, someone decided *NOT* to install the
Chatzilla portion of SeaMonkey. I'm not sure but this may mean you will
have to re-install SeaMonkey and select to install the Chatzilla portion
of the program. (If having to reinstall SeaMonkey, make sure you back-up
your profile .... you know .... Just in case!! ;-) )
--
Daniel

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 by: Richard Owlett - Sun, 4 Jun 2023 10:28 UTC

On 06/03/2023 05:20 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
> In article <ZQydnWwEabyP3ub5nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@supernews.com>, rowlett@cloud85.net says...
>>
>> I've been told to go to a specific IRC channel for some information.
>> Approaching 80 and on the web since Netscape, I've never used IRC.
>> All my SeaMonkey installs have used only defaults, never needed add-ons.
>>
>> My web search indicates that ChatZilla is installed by default.
>> I don't see it.
>
> Perhaps you should click on "Window" then click on "IRC Chat"
>

My other machine [SeaMonkey 2.53.15 on Debian 11.3] has it.

This machine doesn't display "IRC Chat" when clicking on "Window". It is
much more accessible. Is ChatZilla available for SeaMonkey 2.49.4 ?

Thank you

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 by: Richard Owlett - Sun, 4 Jun 2023 11:28 UTC

On 06/04/2023 05:09 AM, Daniel65 wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote on 3/6/23 11:41 pm:
>> I've been told to go to a specific IRC channel for some information.
>> Approaching 80 and on the web since Netscape, I've never used IRC. All
>> my SeaMonkey installs have used only defaults, never needed
>> add-ons.
>>
>> My web search indicates that ChatZilla is installed by default. I
>> don't see it.
>>
>> I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian 9.13 . I have later software on
>> a different machine. But, for now this is what I have available.
>>
>> What should I be reading? Decades in customer support taught me that
>> "newbies" often don't realize how much they don't know. At least I
>> recognize my newbie status in this.
>>
>> Help please. TIA
>>
> Richard, down in the bottom left of your SeaMonkey screen, how many
> little icons do you see?? 4 or 5??

Only 4 icons :{

>
> If 5 icons, if you 'mouse-over' them, one should be for 'IRC Chat' (the
> 'cZ' icon). If you click on that icon, what happens??
>
> If only 4 icons, that would suggest (at least to me) that when your
> SeaMonkey 2.49.4 was install, someone decided *NOT* to install the
> Chatzilla portion of SeaMonkey.

I can see that happening if ChatZilla is listed separately in a menu drive.

> I'm not sure but this may mean you will
> have to re-install SeaMonkey and select to install the Chatzilla portion
> of the program. (If having to reinstall SeaMonkey, make sure you back-up
> your profile .... you know .... Just in case!! ;-)  )

<GRIN> Have much experience with Murphy.
Having just bought a 10-pack of 16 GB flash drives I'll dedicate one to
backups and use another to do a 'quarantined' install of SeaMonkey.
That will:
1. leave my current setup unmolested.
2. allow me to experiment with some profile mods I'm considering.

Thank you

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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 4 Jun 2023 11:37 UTC

Richard Owlett wrote on 4/6/23 8:28 pm:
> On 06/03/2023 05:20 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
>> In article <ZQydnWwEabyP3ub5nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@supernews.com>,
>> rowlett@cloud85.net says...
>>>
>>> I've been told to go to a specific IRC channel for some
>>> information. Approaching 80 and on the web since Netscape, I've
>>> never used IRC. All my SeaMonkey installs have used only
>>> defaults, never needed add-ons.
>>>
>>> My web search indicates that ChatZilla is installed by default. I
>>> don't see it.
>>
>> Perhaps you should click on "Window" then click on "IRC Chat"
>>
>
>
> My other machine [SeaMonkey 2.53.15 on Debian 11.3] has it.
>
> This machine doesn't display "IRC Chat" when clicking on "Window". It
> is much more accessible. Is ChatZilla available for SeaMonkey 2.49.4
> ?
>
> Thank you

Richard, Chatzilla certainly WAS an optionally Add-On for SeaMonkey but,
as I explained elsewhere, it is now incorporated into SeaMonkey.

If your SeaMonkey 2.49.4 doesn't include Chatzilla, the Chatzilla home
page is, apparently, at http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/ You may be able
to get a SM V 2.49.4 suitable version of Chatzilla there.
--
Daniel

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 by: Dave Yeo - Sun, 4 Jun 2023 16:00 UTC

Richard Owlett wrote:
> This machine doesn't display "IRC Chat" when clicking on "Window". It is
> much more accessible. Is ChatZilla available for SeaMonkey 2.49.4 ?

Have you gone to about:addons and checked if at some point you disabled it?
Dave

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 by: Richard Owlett - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 11:37 UTC

On 06/04/2023 11:00 AM, Dave Yeo wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
>> This machine doesn't display "IRC Chat" when clicking on "Window". It is
>> much more accessible. Is ChatZilla available for SeaMonkey 2.49.4 ?
>
> Have you gone to about:addons and checked if at some point you disabled it?
> Dave

No, I hadn't.
I entered "chatzilla" in the search box which appeared after clicking on
the link you gave. It was not reported as installed.

I chose to install and allow a restart of SeaMonkey. "IRC Chat" now
appears when clicking on "Window". Its icon also now appears with the
others at the bottom of my screen. ChatZilla apparently launches properly.

I'll re-read the links suggested in this thread.
Three quick questions:
1. Is there a page describing the networks listed as available by
default at the bottom of the ChatZilla screen?
2. Is there a particular network&channel particularly appropriate for
a newbie to get his introduction to proper use of IRC?
3. How do I add a particular network to what is available when
ChatZilla starts?

*THANK YOU!*

P.S. Discovered I didn't know as much about "about:" as I thought.
Another reading assignment ;/

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 by: Richard Owlett - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 11:58 UTC

On 06/04/2023 06:37 AM, Daniel65 wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote on 4/6/23 8:28 pm:
>> On 06/03/2023 05:20 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
>>> In article <ZQydnWwEabyP3ub5nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@supernews.com>,
>>> rowlett@cloud85.net says...
>>>>
>>>> I've been told to go to a specific IRC channel for some
>>>> information. Approaching 80 and on the web since Netscape, I've
>>>> never used IRC. All my SeaMonkey installs have used only
>>>> defaults, never needed add-ons.
>>>>
>>>> My web search indicates that ChatZilla is installed by default. I
>>>> don't see it.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you should click on "Window" then click on "IRC Chat"
>>>
>>
>>
>> My other machine [SeaMonkey 2.53.15 on Debian 11.3] has it.
>>
>> This machine doesn't display "IRC Chat" when clicking on "Window". It
>> is much more accessible. Is ChatZilla available for SeaMonkey 2.49.4
>> ?
>>
>> Thank you
>
> Richard, Chatzilla certainly WAS an optionally Add-On for SeaMonkey but,
> as I explained elsewhere, it is now incorporated into SeaMonkey.
>
> If your SeaMonkey 2.49.4 doesn't include Chatzilla, the Chatzilla home
> page is, apparently, at http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/ You may be able
> to get a SM V 2.49.4 suitable version of Chatzilla there.

I had tried that site. When attempting to download/install via the link
on that page I was prevented from installing by a series of warnings.

Dave Yeo's suggestion to go to about:addons got me on the right path.
I now have ChatZilla.

Thank you

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 by: Mark Bourne - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 19:13 UTC

Richard Owlett wrote:
> P.S. Discovered I didn't know as much about "about:" as I thought.
>      Another reading assignment ;/

about:addons is also available from the "Tools" menu as "Add-Ons
Manager", which may be easier to remember/find.

There's also about:about, with a handy list of about: links (...but I
always seem to forget about that one when trying to remember exactly
what one of the others is!)

--
Mark.

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 by: Daniel65 - Tue, 6 Jun 2023 04:49 UTC

Richard Owlett wrote on 5/6/23 9:58 pm:
> On 06/04/2023 06:37 AM, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote on 4/6/23 8:28 pm:
>>> On 06/03/2023 05:20 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
>>>> In article <ZQydnWwEabyP3ub5nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@supernews.com>,
>>>> rowlett@cloud85.net says...
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been told to go to a specific IRC channel for some
>>>>> information. Approaching 80 and on the web since Netscape, I've
>>>>> never used IRC. All my SeaMonkey installs have used only
>>>>> defaults, never needed add-ons.
>>>>>
>>>>> My web search indicates that ChatZilla is installed by default. I
>>>>> don't see it.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you should click on "Window" then click on "IRC Chat"
>>>
>>> My other machine [SeaMonkey 2.53.15 on Debian 11.3] has it.
>>>
>>> This machine doesn't display "IRC Chat" when clicking on "Window". It
>>> is much more accessible. Is ChatZilla available for SeaMonkey 2.49.4
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>
>> Richard, Chatzilla certainly WAS an optionally Add-On for SeaMonkey
>> but, as I explained elsewhere, it is now incorporated into SeaMonkey.
>>
>> If your SeaMonkey 2.49.4 doesn't include Chatzilla, the Chatzilla home
>> page is, apparently, at http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/ You may be able
>> to get a SM V 2.49.4 suitable version of Chatzilla there.
>
> I had tried that site. When attempting to download/install via the link
> on that page I was prevented from installing by a series of warnings.
>
> Dave Yeo's suggestion to go to about:addons got me on the right path.
> I now have ChatZilla.
>
> Thank you

Alls well that ends well!! ;-P
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Tue, 6 Jun 2023 05:12 UTC

Richard Owlett wrote on 5/6/23 9:37 pm:
> On 06/04/2023 11:00 AM, Dave Yeo wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> This machine doesn't display "IRC Chat" when clicking on
>>> "Window". It is much more accessible. Is ChatZilla available for
>>> SeaMonkey 2.49.4 ?
>>
>> Have you gone to about:addons and checked if at some point you
>> disabled it? Dave
>
> No, I hadn't. I entered "chatzilla" in the search box which appeared
> after clicking on the link you gave. It was not reported as
> installed.
>
> I chose to install and allow a restart of SeaMonkey. "IRC Chat" now
> appears when clicking on "Window". Its icon also now appears with
> the others at the bottom of my screen. ChatZilla apparently launches
> properly.
>
> I'll re-read the links suggested in this thread. Three quick
> questions:
>
> 1. Is there a page describing the networks listed as available by
> default at the bottom of the ChatZilla screen?
>
> 2. Is there a particular network&channel particularly appropriate for
> a newbie to get his introduction to proper use of IRC?
>
> 3. How do I add a particular network to what is available when
> ChatZilla starts?
>
> *THANK YOU!*

Richard, on the Chatzilla screen, you first need to connect to one or
more IRC servers, e.g. the SeaMonkey IRC is one of the many channels on
the irc.libera.chat server. I'm also connected to the IRC server of my
old ISP.

Your particular IRC group may be on a different IRC server which you
might have to create an account on. Check with your friends/associates.

Once you have the server set up, you would then be able to select which
Channels you want to read/contribute.

> P.S. Discovered I didn't know as much about "about:" as I thought.
> Another reading assignment ;/
>
Hmm!! Maybe, one day, I'll do similar .... when I get time!! ;-P
--
Daniel

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 by: Richard Owlett - Tue, 6 Jun 2023 11:10 UTC

On 06/06/2023 12:12 AM, Daniel65 wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote on 5/6/23 9:37 pm:
[snip]
>> 3. How do I add a particular network to what is available when
>> ChatZilla starts?
>>
>> *THANK YOU!*
>
> Richard, on the Chatzilla screen, you first need to connect to one or
> more IRC servers, e.g. the SeaMonkey IRC is one of the many channels on
> the irc.libera.chat server. I'm also connected to the IRC server of my
> old ISP.
>
> Your particular IRC group may be on a different IRC server which you
> might have to create an account on. Check with your friends/associates.
>
> Once you have the server set up, you would then be able to select which
> Channels you want to read/contribute.

My interest in IRC arose in response to a reply in my "Searching for a
paid POP3 email provider" thread. I was pointed to sdf.org . It turns
out to be interesting for aspects other than providing Pop3 for its
members. The homepage states, in part, "... live help is available on
IRC via irc.sdf.org in the #helpdesk channel."

Is "irc.sdf.org" an IRC server in the sense you had in mind above?
If so, how do I connect?

NOTE: I've only done a light read of the links about IRC and ChatZilla
I've been given in this thread. I'll collect in one place and re-read.

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 by: Richard Owlett - Tue, 6 Jun 2023 11:19 UTC

On 06/05/2023 02:13 PM, Mark Bourne wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
>> P.S. Discovered I didn't know as much about "about:" as I thought.
>>       Another reading assignment ;/
>
> about:addons is also available from the "Tools" menu as "Add-Ons
> Manager", which may be easier to remember/find.
>
> There's also about:about, with a handy list of about: links (...but I
> always seem to forget about that one when trying to remember exactly
> what one of the others is!)
>

I was looking for a web page resembling about:about but having a one or
two line description of each.

It also would include those links omitted because they require query
strings.

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 by: Richard Owlett - Tue, 6 Jun 2023 12:48 UTC

I found or was referred to these links after my original post.
I hope they will assist other newbies.
Suggested additions welcome.

https://www.irchelp.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IRC/Tutorial
https://www.wikihow.com/Get-Started-with-IRC-%28Internet-Relay-Chat%29

https://wiki.debian.org/GettingHelpOnIrc

https://www.debian.org/support

https://wiki.debian.org/IrcClients
https://wiki.debian.org/IRC

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/community#irc

http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/

http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/faq/
https://www.irchelp.org/clients/cross/chatzilla.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChatZilla

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 by: Mark Bourne - Tue, 6 Jun 2023 19:18 UTC

Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/05/2023 02:13 PM, Mark Bourne wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> P.S. Discovered I didn't know as much about "about:" as I thought.
>>>       Another reading assignment ;/
>>
>> about:addons is also available from the "Tools" menu as "Add-Ons
>> Manager", which may be easier to remember/find.
>>
>> There's also about:about, with a handy list of about: links (...but I
>> always seem to forget about that one when trying to remember exactly
>> what one of the others is!)
>>
>
> I was looking for a web page resembling about:about but having a one or
> two line description of each.
>
> It also would include those links omitted because they require query
> strings.

There's a list on MozillaZine:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/About_protocol_links

Last modified in 2015, so it might be missing some newer entries and
some it does list might be obsolete, but I don't suppose the purpose of
each page changes much so the descriptions are probably still valid for
pages which do still exist.

--
Mark.

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 by: Daniel65 - Wed, 7 Jun 2023 08:11 UTC

Richard Owlett wrote on 6/06/2023 9:10 pm:
> On 06/06/2023 12:12 AM, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote on 5/6/23 9:37 pm:
> [snip]
>>> 3. How do I add a particular network to what is available when
>>> ChatZilla starts?
>>>
>>> *THANK YOU!*
>>
>> Richard, on the Chatzilla screen, you first need to connect to one or
>> more IRC servers, e.g. the SeaMonkey IRC is one of the many channels
>> on the irc.libera.chat server. I'm also connected to the IRC server of
>> my old ISP.
>>
>> Your particular IRC group may be on a different IRC server which you
>> might have to create an account on. Check with your friends/associates.
>>
>> Once you have the server set up, you would then be able to select
>> which Channels you want to read/contribute.
>
> My interest in IRC arose in response to a reply in my "Searching for a
> paid POP3 email provider" thread. I was pointed to sdf.org . It turns
> out to be interesting for aspects other than providing Pop3 for its
> members. The homepage states, in part, "...  live help is available on
> IRC via irc.sdf.org in the #helpdesk channel."
>
> Is "irc.sdf.org" an IRC server in the sense you had in mind above?
> If so, how do I connect?

Hmm! You ask the difficult questions, Richard!! ;-)

In your Browser screen, enter "irc.sdf.org" (without the double quotes)
in the Address Bar ..... Hmm! That takes you to a webpage which asks you
to choose one of four types of Feeds (fediverse??) and I don't know
which to advise you to select, Richard.

Maybe you need to ask someone else ..... perhaps the person who original
told you to "go to a specific IRC channel for some information" (from
your original post!!)

Sorry I cannot be of further assistance!! ;-(

> NOTE: I've only done a light read of the links about IRC and ChatZilla
> I've been given in this thread. I'll collect in one place and re-read.
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Wed, 7 Jun 2023 08:13 UTC

Daniel65 wrote on 7/06/2023 6:11 pm:
> Richard Owlett wrote on 6/06/2023 9:10 pm:
>> On 06/06/2023 12:12 AM, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Richard Owlett wrote on 5/6/23 9:37 pm:
>> [snip]
>>>> 3. How do I add a particular network to what is available when
>>>> ChatZilla starts?
>>>>
>>>> *THANK YOU!*
>>>
>>> Richard, on the Chatzilla screen, you first need to connect to one or
>>> more IRC servers, e.g. the SeaMonkey IRC is one of the many channels
>>> on the irc.libera.chat server. I'm also connected to the IRC server
>>> of my old ISP.
>>>
>>> Your particular IRC group may be on a different IRC server which you
>>> might have to create an account on. Check with your friends/associates.
>>>
>>> Once you have the server set up, you would then be able to select
>>> which Channels you want to read/contribute.
>>
>> My interest in IRC arose in response to a reply in my "Searching for a
>> paid POP3 email provider" thread. I was pointed to sdf.org . It turns
>> out to be interesting for aspects other than providing Pop3 for its
>> members. The homepage states, in part, "...  live help is available on
>> IRC via irc.sdf.org in the #helpdesk channel."
>>
>> Is "irc.sdf.org" an IRC server in the sense you had in mind above?
>> If so, how do I connect?
>
> Hmm! You ask the difficult questions, Richard!! ;-)
>
> In your Browser screen, enter "irc.sdf.org" (without the double quotes)
> in the Address Bar ..... Hmm! That takes you to a webpage which asks you
> to choose one of four types of Feeds (fediverse??) and I don't know
> which to advise you to select, Richard.
>
> Maybe you need to ask someone else ..... perhaps the person who original
> told you to "go to a specific IRC channel for some information" (from
> your original post!!)
>
> Sorry I cannot be of further assistance!! ;-(
>
>> NOTE: I've only done a light read of the links about IRC and ChatZilla
>> I've been given in this thread. I'll collect in one place and re-read.

Ah!! I see from your later post that you have found a bit of reading ...
that should help you out. ;-)
--
Daniel

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 by: Richard Owlett - Wed, 7 Jun 2023 11:19 UTC

On 06/07/2023 03:11 AM, Daniel65 wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote on 6/06/2023 9:10 pm:
>> On 06/06/2023 12:12 AM, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Richard Owlett wrote on 5/6/23 9:37 pm:
>> [snip]
>>>> 3. How do I add a particular network to what is available when
>>>> ChatZilla starts?
>>>>
>>>> *THANK YOU!*
>>>
>>> Richard, on the Chatzilla screen, you first need to connect to one or
>>> more IRC servers, e.g. the SeaMonkey IRC is one of the many channels
>>> on the irc.libera.chat server. I'm also connected to the IRC server
>>> of my old ISP.
>>>
>>> Your particular IRC group may be on a different IRC server which you
>>> might have to create an account on. Check with your friends/associates.
>>>
>>> Once you have the server set up, you would then be able to select
>>> which Channels you want to read/contribute.
>>
>> My interest in IRC arose in response to a reply in my "Searching for a
>> paid POP3 email provider" thread. I was pointed to sdf.org . It turns
>> out to be interesting for aspects other than providing Pop3 for its
>> members. The homepage states, in part, "...  live help is available on
>> IRC via irc.sdf.org in the #helpdesk channel."
>>
>> Is "irc.sdf.org" an IRC server in the sense you had in mind above?
>> If so, how do I connect?
>
> Hmm! You ask the difficult questions, Richard!! ;-)
>
> In your Browser screen, enter "irc.sdf.org" (without the double quotes)
> in the Address Bar ..... Hmm! That takes you to a webpage which asks you
> to choose one of four types of Feeds (fediverse??) and I don't know
> which to advise you to select, Richard.
>
> Maybe you need to ask someone else ..... perhaps the person who original
> told you to "go to a specific IRC channel for some information" (from
> your original post!!)
>
> Sorry I cannot be of further assistance!! ;-(
>
>> NOTE: I've only done a light read of the links about IRC and ChatZilla
>> I've been given in this thread. I'll collect in one place and re-read.

A re-read of http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/faq/ led me to trying
irc.sdf.org as target of the "/attach" command. It worked ;}
[don't recall what question I was pursuing when first browsing FAQs.]

I'll have to re-read one of the sdf.org tutorials to recall how to use
my SDF id with their IRC channel.

Today's homework is a more complete reading of the FAQs and following
the mini-tutorial at http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/ . One of the links I
found also has a generic tutorial. I'll check it out also.

Thanks again.

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 by: Richard Owlett - Wed, 7 Jun 2023 14:53 UTC

On 06/07/2023 06:19 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/07/2023 03:11 AM, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote on 6/06/2023 9:10 pm:
>>> On 06/06/2023 12:12 AM, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>> Richard Owlett wrote on 5/6/23 9:37 pm:
>>> [snip]
>>>>> 3. How do I add a particular network to what is available when
>>>>> ChatZilla starts?
>>>>>
>>>>> *THANK YOU!*
>>>>
>>>> Richard, on the Chatzilla screen, you first need to connect to one
>>>> or more IRC servers, e.g. the SeaMonkey IRC is one of the many
>>>> channels on the irc.libera.chat server. I'm also connected to the
>>>> IRC server of my old ISP.
>>>>
>>>> Your particular IRC group may be on a different IRC server which you
>>>> might have to create an account on. Check with your friends/associates.
>>>>
>>>> Once you have the server set up, you would then be able to select
>>>> which Channels you want to read/contribute.
>>>
>>> My interest in IRC arose in response to a reply in my "Searching for
>>> a paid POP3 email provider" thread. I was pointed to sdf.org . It
>>> turns out to be interesting for aspects other than providing Pop3 for
>>> its members. The homepage states, in part, "...  live help is
>>> available on IRC via irc.sdf.org in the #helpdesk channel."
>>>
>>> Is "irc.sdf.org" an IRC server in the sense you had in mind above?
>>> If so, how do I connect?
>>
>> Hmm! You ask the difficult questions, Richard!! ;-)
>>
>> In your Browser screen, enter "irc.sdf.org" (without the double
>> quotes) in the Address Bar ..... Hmm! That takes you to a webpage
>> which asks you to choose one of four types of Feeds (fediverse??) and
>> I don't know which to advise you to select, Richard.
>>
>> Maybe you need to ask someone else ..... perhaps the person who
>> original told you to "go to a specific IRC channel for some
>> information" (from your original post!!)
>>
>> Sorry I cannot be of further assistance!! ;-(
>>
>>> NOTE: I've only done a light read of the links about IRC and
>>> ChatZilla I've been given in this thread. I'll collect in one place
>>> and re-read.
>
> A re-read of http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/faq/ led me to trying
> irc.sdf.org as target of the "/attach" command. It worked ;}
> [don't recall what question I was pursuing when first browsing FAQs.]

Subsequent "/join #helpdesk" got me into the appropriate channel. A
useful exchange with a couple members followed.
An "old dog" just learned a new trick ;/

>
> I'll have to re-read one of the sdf.org tutorials to recall how to use
> my SDF id with their IRC channel.
>
> Today's homework is a more complete reading of the FAQs and following
> the mini-tutorial at http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/ . One of the links I
> found also has a generic tutorial. I'll check it out also.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
>

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