There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or text
within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide personel
information.
Am I correct and if so what was the program called?

Regards,

Stephen

--

Was it !Steg by Paul Vigay

In message <af428a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

> There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or text
> within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide personel
> information.
> Am I correct and if so what was the program called?

> Regards,

> Stephen

--
Paul Oates
oatespaul@btinternet.com

In article <af428a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
<stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or
> text within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide
> personel information. Am I correct and if so what was the program
> called?

You may be thinking of !Stego, by Nat Queen.

It is on his website http://www.queen.clara.net/pgp/acorn.html
where there are lots of security utilities.

--
Martin Avison
Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received.

In message <594d8bb72dNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <af428a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or
>> text within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide
>> personel information. Am I correct and if so what was the program
>> called?
>
>You may be thinking of !Stego, by Nat Queen.
>
>It is on his website http://www.queen.clara.net/pgp/acorn.html
>where there are lots of security utilities.
>

That's the one thank you,
I can hide passwords in this program quite successfully now.

Regards

Steve
--

In message <b7be8b4d59.Paul@oatespaul.btinternet.com>
Paul Oates <oatespaul@btinternet.com> wrote:

>Was it !Steg by Paul Vigay
>
>
>In message <af428a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>
> stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
>
>> There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or text
>> within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide personel
>> information.
>> Am I correct and if so what was the program called?
>
>> Regards,
>
>> Stephen
>
>
>
>

!Stego, by Nat Queen is the one thank you.

Regards,

Steve

--

In article <518d9a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
<stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >You may be thinking of !Stego, by Nat Queen.
> >
> >It is on his website http://www.queen.clara.net/pgp/acorn.html
> >where there are lots of security utilities.

> That's the one thank you,
> I can hide passwords in this program quite successfully now.

<plug>If you have Organizer, it can strongly encrypt any or all of the
sections data, using Blowfish or IDEA.</plug>

--
Martin Avison
Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received.

In message <594da0524fNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <518d9a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> >You may be thinking of !Stego, by Nat Queen.
>> >
>> >It is on his website http://www.queen.clara.net/pgp/acorn.html
>> >where there are lots of security utilities.
>
>> That's the one thank you,
>> I can hide passwords in this program quite successfully now.
>
><plug>If you have Organizer, it can strongly encrypt any or all of the
>sections data, using Blowfish or IDEA.</plug>
>

I use Organizer v1.59 but have no idea how to encrypt files with it.

Regards,

Steve

--

On 18 Jul, stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote in message
<c752e64d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>:

> I use Organizer v1.59 but have no idea how to encrypt files with it.

I suspect that Martin is referring to a more up-to-date version:

http://www.organizerpim.co.uk/

--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

In message <c752e64d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

> In message <594da0524fNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
> Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

>>In article <518d9a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
>> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>You may be thinking of !Stego, by Nat Queen.
>>>>
>>>>It is on his website http://www.queen.clara.net/pgp/acorn.html
>>>>where there are lots of security utilities.
>>
>>> That's the one thank you,
>>> I can hide passwords in this program quite successfully now.
>>
>><plug>If you have Organizer, it can strongly encrypt any or all of the
>>sections data, using Blowfish or IDEA.</plug>
>>

> I use Organizer v1.59 but have no idea how to encrypt files with it.

Thats the free version of the application and has many features missing.

The current developed version 2.29a

http://www.organizerpim.co.uk/

Highly recommended.

--
Chris Hughes

In article <mpro.qwfqw101and1e03an.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> On 18 Jul, stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote in message
> <c752e64d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>:

> > I use Organizer v1.59 but have no idea how to encrypt files with
> > it.

> I suspect that Martin is referring to a more up-to-date version:
> http://www.organizerpim.co.uk/

Indeed I was. Encryption was introduced 5 years ago in v2.26.
I am afraid v1.59 is effectively from about 18 years ago,

--
Martin Avison
Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received.

In article <69d7e94d59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <c752e64d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>
> stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

> > In message <594da0524fNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
> > Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

> >>In article <518d9a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
> >> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>>>You may be thinking of !Stego, by Nat Queen.
> >>>>
> >>>>It is on his website http://www.queen.clara.net/pgp/acorn.html
> >>>>where there are lots of security utilities.
> >>
> >>> That's the one thank you,
> >>> I can hide passwords in this program quite successfully now.
> >>
> >><plug>If you have Organizer, it can strongly encrypt any or all of the
> >>sections data, using Blowfish or IDEA.</plug>
> >>

> > I use Organizer v1.59 but have no idea how to encrypt files with it.

> Thats the free version of the application and has many features missing.

> The current developed version 2.29a

> http://www.organizerpim.co.uk/

> Highly recommended.

Hear, hear. Absolutely. Wouldn't be without it.

--
Chris Newman

On 17/07/2021 17:59, stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
> There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or text
> within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide personel
> information.

Thanks for letting our friends at Cheltenham know where to look :-)

---druck

On 18 Jul 2021 as I do recall,
druck wrote:

> On 17/07/2021 17:59, stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
> > There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or text
> > within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide personel
> > information.
>
> Thanks for letting our friends at Cheltenham know where to look :-)
>
I seem to remember the discussion at the time suggested tongue-in-cheek
that it would be pretty much as secure simply to store the information
in the form of a Draw file with all the text converted to outlines,
which would be undecipherable under anything but RISC OS and
unrecognisable even as a graphics format by any spy's OS. :-p

--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

It is better to have loved and lost than just to have lost.

In article <72ee134e59.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> On 18 Jul 2021 as I do recall,
> druck wrote:

> > On 17/07/2021 17:59, stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
> > > There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or
> > > text within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide
> > > personel information.
> >
> > Thanks for letting our friends at Cheltenham know where to look :-)
> >
> I seem to remember the discussion at the time suggested tongue-in-cheek
> that it would be pretty much as secure simply to store the information
> in the form of a Draw file with all the text converted to outlines,
> which would be undecipherable under anything but RISC OS and
> unrecognisable even as a graphics format by any spy's OS. :-p

Oh happy days. (Probably).

Experimentally, a friend and I used to send each other secret messages
using Drawfiles.

As Harriet notes above... Then we'd select everything, group it and make
it (Lines and fills) white.

Later we decided to change the filetype before sending. :-)

I do remember the only weakness we found was the heading of the file when
put in an advanced text editor of the Zap type. "DrawÉ

Not that they'd find anything useful unless they knew the process to
reveal.

Ah well it was a long time ago and was a fun experiment at the time.

Dave

--

Dave Triffid

In article <594e1762c5dave@triffid.co.uk>,
Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> Oh happy days. (Probably).

> Experimentally, a friend and I used to send each other secret messages
> using Drawfiles.

I recall, many moons ago, sending my credit card details to CJE for
something wraped up in a draw file.

--
Stuart Winsor

Tools With A Mission
sending tools across the world
http://www.twam.co.uk/

On 18/07/2021 19:03, Harriet Bazley wrote:
> On 18 Jul 2021 as I do recall,
> druck wrote:
>
>> On 17/07/2021 17:59, stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
>>> There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or text
>>> within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide personel
>>> information.
>>
>> Thanks for letting our friends at Cheltenham know where to look :-)
>>
> I seem to remember the discussion at the time suggested tongue-in-cheek
> that it would be pretty much as secure simply to store the information
> in the form of a Draw file with all the text converted to outlines,
> which would be undecipherable under anything but RISC OS and
> unrecognisable even as a graphics format by any spy's OS. :-p

I'm sure the at the egg heads at the donut would try out the Linux file
command, spot that is says "RISC OS Draw file data", and then have a
google for where they could download a copy of RISC OS.

---druck