send a sms from a Raspberry (pi or pico) or a NodeMcu8266 (ESP12) or a
ESP32??
Many thanks

zeneca <pasIci@ailleur.fr> wrote:
> send a sms from a Raspberry (pi or pico) or a NodeMcu8266 (ESP12) or a
> ESP32??

If you have a GSM module (2G/3G/4G, depending on your local networks), it
should be just a case of generating the right AT command and sending it over
the serial port to the module. eg
https://www.teachmemicro.com/how-to-send-sms-raspberry-pi/

There are also internet SMS services, but not sure they are set up for
sending in this way.

Theo

Dana 11 Aug 2022 15:22:17 +0100 (BST), Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> napis'o:
> zeneca <pasIci@ailleur.fr> wrote:
>> send a sms from a Raspberry (pi or pico) or a NodeMcu8266 (ESP12) or a
>> ESP32??
>
> If you have a GSM module (2G/3G/4G, depending on your local networks), it
> should be just a case of generating the right AT command and sending it over
> the serial port to the module. eg
> https://www.teachmemicro.com/how-to-send-sms-raspberry-pi/
>
> There are also internet SMS services, but not sure they are set up for
> sending in this way.

Every VoIP service has SMS service.
You connect to their web page and fill out SMS form andd "click" send.

Nikolaj Lazic <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote:
> Dana 11 Aug 2022 15:22:17 +0100 (BST), Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> napis'o:
> > zeneca <pasIci@ailleur.fr> wrote:
> >> send a sms from a Raspberry (pi or pico) or a NodeMcu8266 (ESP12) or a
> >> ESP32??
> >
> > If you have a GSM module (2G/3G/4G, depending on your local networks), it
> > should be just a case of generating the right AT command and sending it over
> > the serial port to the module. eg
> > https://www.teachmemicro.com/how-to-send-sms-raspberry-pi/
> >
> > There are also internet SMS services, but not sure they are set up for
> > sending in this way.
>
> Every VoIP service has SMS service.
> You connect to their web page and fill out SMS form andd "click" send.

And how exactly does your microcontroller go to their web page and click
send? (given you'll need to login first to do that, maybe they want you to
do 2FA, etc etc)

You may be able to do it from SIP, but that needs at least some form of SIP
stack - not straightforward for a microcontroller.

Theo

In message <cmu*aBuVy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

> Nikolaj Lazic <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote:
> > Dana 11 Aug 2022 15:22:17 +0100 (BST), Theo
> > <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> napis'o:
> > > zeneca <pasIci@ailleur.fr> wrote:
> > > > send a sms from a Raspberry (pi or pico) or a NodeMcu8266 (ESP12) or
> > > > a ESP32??
> > >
> > > If you have a GSM module (2G/3G/4G, depending on your local networks),
> > > it should be just a case of generating the right AT command and sending
> > > it over the serial port to the module. eg
> > > https://www.teachmemicro.com/how-to-send-sms-raspberry-pi/
> > >
> > > There are also internet SMS services, but not sure they are set up for
> > > sending in this way.
> >
> > Every VoIP service has SMS service. You connect to their web page and
> > fill out SMS form andd "click" send.
>
> And how exactly does your microcontroller go to their web page and click
> send? (given you'll need to login first to do that, maybe they want you
> to do 2FA, etc etc)
>
> You may be able to do it from SIP, but that needs at least some form of
> SIP stack - not straightforward for a microcontroller.

But well within the capabilities of a Pi.

David

On a sunny day (Thu, 11 Aug 2022 16:08:40 +0200) it happened zeneca
<pasIci@ailleur.fr> wrote in <td32h8$1e38$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

>send a sms from a Raspberry (pi or pico) or a NodeMcu8266 (ESP12) or a
>ESP32??
>Many thanks

I wrote huaweic:
http://panteltje.com/panteltje/newsflex/download.html#huaweic

It works with Huawei USB 3G and 4G modem sticks
You need for example a prepaid card or some account with a provider.

Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> zeneca <pasIci@ailleur.fr> wrote:
>> send a sms from a Raspberry (pi or pico) or a NodeMcu8266 (ESP12) or a
>> ESP32??
>
> If you have a GSM module (2G/3G/4G, depending on your local networks), it
> should be just a case of generating the right AT command and sending it over
> the serial port to the module. eg
> https://www.teachmemicro.com/how-to-send-sms-raspberry-pi/

Or if you don't want to write your own script, ModemManager also
supports sending SMSs and other common SMS functions with an AT
modem. Beware newer USB mobile broadband modems that appear to the
host as USB network adapters with a web-based interface for
configuration and therefore don't allow AT commands. The web-based
interface _might_ have a send-SMS page though, which if you're
really lucky might be simple enough (ie. not all Javascript) that
you can use curl or wget to submit an SMS automatcially with that.

> There are also internet SMS services, but not sure they are set up for
> sending in this way.

There are Email-SMS services which would be easy to use with
the "sendmail" command, or its alternatives. In Australia they're
all paid services, but cheap enough that they can be less costly
than a SIM card if you don't also need the latter for internet
access. There are probably similar offerings wherever the OP lives
(France, if the email address is anything to go by).

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Nikolaj Lazic wrote:

> Every VoIP service has SMS service.

s/every/some/

David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> In message <cmu*aBuVy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>
> Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > zeneca <pasIci@ailleur.fr> wrote:
> > > > > send a sms from a Raspberry (pi or pico) or a NodeMcu8266 (ESP12) or
> > > > > a ESP32??
[snip]
> >
> > And how exactly does your microcontroller go to their web page and click
> > send? (given you'll need to login first to do that, maybe they want you
> > to do 2FA, etc etc)
> >
> > You may be able to do it from SIP, but that needs at least some form of
> > SIP stack - not straightforward for a microcontroller.
>
> But well within the capabilities of a Pi.

I think we need to establish what the OP wants this for. They mentioned
three microcontrollers (Pico, ESP8266, ESP32) and one computer (Pi). The
answers for each are quite different. Everyone so far has been talking
about the Pi running Linux. There are sometimes good reasons to pick a
microcontroller over a computer, but we don't know why the OP might want one
or other.

Theo

Le 12/08/22 à 11:35, Theo a écrit :
> David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
>> In message <cmu*aBuVy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>
>> Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>>> zeneca <pasIci@ailleur.fr> wrote:
>>>>>> send a sms from a Raspberry (pi or pico) or a NodeMcu8266 (ESP12) or
>>>>>> a ESP32??
> [snip]
>>>
>>> And how exactly does your microcontroller go to their web page and click
>>> send? (given you'll need to login first to do that, maybe they want you
>>> to do 2FA, etc etc)
>>>
>>> You may be able to do it from SIP, but that needs at least some form of
>>> SIP stack - not straightforward for a microcontroller.
>>
>> But well within the capabilities of a Pi.
>
> I think we need to establish what the OP wants this for. They mentioned
> three microcontrollers (Pico, ESP8266, ESP32) and one computer (Pi). The
> answers for each are quite different. Everyone so far has been talking
> about the Pi running Linux. There are sometimes good reasons to pick a
> microcontroller over a computer, but we don't know why the OP might want one
> or other.
>
> Theo
Simple I use them for different project. I am retired from computer
industry with a background in electronics. That said I use raspberry pi
for some project last is controlling temperature home and a SMS could be
interseting in some cases, and it's always good to know. The others are
microcontoler with WIFI capabilities and there also are occasions to use
and send SMS to notify an alarm??
They all have a UART included to control a GSM modem.
Andre
Many thanks to you all for your answers

zeneca <pasIci@ailleur.fr> wrote:
> Simple I use them for different project. I am retired from computer
> industry with a background in electronics. That said I use raspberry pi
> for some project last is controlling temperature home and a SMS could be
> interseting in some cases, and it's always good to know. The others are
> microcontoler with WIFI capabilities and there also are occasions to use
> and send SMS to notify an alarm??
> They all have a UART included to control a GSM modem.

If the device already has an internet connection (wifi), have a look at
using MQTT to connect to a Node Red server (on a Pi for example) which can
send a Telegram message for free. Because sms usually requires a mobile
connection and costs money. See Andreas Spiess YouTube channel for some
mqtt/nodered videos https://www.youtube.com/c/AndreasSpiess/videos

On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 16:08:40 +0200, zeneca wrote:

> send a sms from a Raspberry (pi or pico) or a NodeMcu8266 (ESP12) or a
> ESP32??
> Many thanks

I note that on www.instructables.com, you can find about a number of
projects that use a microcontroller (with or without a GSM module)
to send SMS messages, including projects that centre around the
Arduino, the Raspberry Pi, the ESP8266 NodeMCU, and the ESP32 SIM800L

So, the answer to your question is "Yes, you can send an sms message from
a Raspberry Pi, ESP8266 NodeMCU or ESP32."

Take a look at https://www.instructables.com/howto/sms/ for a list
of projects, with instructions.

HTH
--
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills, We Trust"

In message <td5vo8$2huqj$1@dont-email.me>
A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:

> zeneca <pasIci@ailleur.fr> wrote:
> > Simple I use them for different project. I am retired from computer
> > industry with a background in electronics. That said I use raspberry pi
> > for some project last is controlling temperature home and a SMS could be
> > interseting in some cases, and it's always good to know. The others are
> > microcontoler with WIFI capabilities and there also are occasions to use
> > and send SMS to notify an alarm?? They all have a UART included to
> > control a GSM modem.
>
> If the device already has an internet connection (wifi), have a look at
> using MQTT to connect to a Node Red server (on a Pi for example) which can
> send a Telegram message for free. Because sms usually requires a mobile
> connection and costs money. See Andreas Spiess YouTube channel for some
> mqtt/nodered videos https://www.youtube.com/c/AndreasSpiess/videos

Prompted by your posting, I spent a couple of hours this afternoon
getting a Raspberry Pi running RISC OS to send a Telegram message via
the Telegram API. As you say, Telegram is free, where SMS may not be.

It's just an https message, sent using curl.

curl is actually overkill. All that is required is an https POST, so
if you have a smaller/faster https client than curl, it will work just
as well, and might likely be faster (curl takes several seconds to be
invoked).

David

David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> In message <td5vo8$2huqj$1@dont-email.me>
> A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
>> If the device already has an internet connection (wifi), have a look at
>> using MQTT to connect to a Node Red server (on a Pi for example) which can
>> send a Telegram message for free. Because sms usually requires a mobile
>> connection and costs money. See Andreas Spiess YouTube channel for some
>> mqtt/nodered videos https://www.youtube.com/c/AndreasSpiess/videos
>
> Prompted by your posting, I spent a couple of hours this afternoon
> getting a Raspberry Pi running RISC OS to send a Telegram message via
> the Telegram API. As you say, Telegram is free, where SMS may not be.

Having just checked the Wikipedia page about Telegram to see that
it doesn't offer any SMS-forwarding feature itself, I'm not sure
why it would be a better alternative to SMS than simply sending
emails.

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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
> David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
>> Prompted by your posting, I spent a couple of hours this afternoon
>> getting a Raspberry Pi running RISC OS to send a Telegram message via
>> the Telegram API. As you say, Telegram is free, where SMS may not be.
>
> Having just checked the Wikipedia page about Telegram to see that
> it doesn't offer any SMS-forwarding feature itself, I'm not sure
> why it would be a better alternative to SMS than simply sending
> emails.

Time sensitive messages. Email is normally quick but doesn't have to be.
The idea is usually to get a notification on one's phone. It has to have
the Telegram app installed, which is like Whatsapp or Signal. And MQTT
instead of mail or http has advantages for microcontrollers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MQTT

The whole Nodered thing is indeed complete overkill for just one device
sending one type of message, but it is a fairly powerful click-and-go
automation hub and it supports receiving mqtt messages.

In message <62f83142@news.ausics.net>
not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote:

> David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> > In message <td5vo8$2huqj$1@dont-email.me>
> > A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
> > > If the device already has an internet connection (wifi), have a look at
> > > using MQTT to connect to a Node Red server (on a Pi for example) which
> > > can send a Telegram message for free. Because sms usually requires a
> > > mobile connection and costs money. See Andreas Spiess YouTube channel
> > > for some mqtt/nodered videos
> > > https://www.youtube.com/c/AndreasSpiess/videos
> >
> > Prompted by your posting, I spent a couple of hours this afternoon
> > getting a Raspberry Pi running RISC OS to send a Telegram message via the
> > Telegram API. As you say, Telegram is free, where SMS may not be.
>
> Having just checked the Wikipedia page about Telegram to see that it
> doesn't offer any SMS-forwarding feature itself, I'm not sure why it would
> be a better alternative to SMS than simply sending emails.

Notification within seconds.

It depends what the OP wants. He asked for SMS, sure, but the suggestion
is that Telegram works just as fast as SMS, and notifies the user in the
same way as SMS. Email is often quite quick, but rarely as fast. Also
SMS may not be free to send, even from a SIP account.

So Telegram appears to some of us to offer a functional equivalent to
what was originally requested.

Of course the rest of us are not so intimately acquainted with the OP's
requirements, so we may have misjudged the situation.

David

Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Nikolaj Lazic <nlazicBEZ_OVOGA@mudrac.ffzg.hr> wrote:
>> Dana 11 Aug 2022 15:22:17 +0100 (BST), Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> napis'o:
>> > zeneca <pasIci@ailleur.fr> wrote:
>> >> send a sms from a Raspberry (pi or pico) or a NodeMcu8266 (ESP12) or a
>> >> ESP32??
>> >
>> > If you have a GSM module (2G/3G/4G, depending on your local networks), it
>> > should be just a case of generating the right AT command and sending it over
>> > the serial port to the module. eg
>> > https://www.teachmemicro.com/how-to-send-sms-raspberry-pi/
>> >
>> > There are also internet SMS services, but not sure they are set up for
>> > sending in this way.
>>
>> Every VoIP service has SMS service.
>> You connect to their web page and fill out SMS form andd "click" send.
>
> And how exactly does your microcontroller go to their web page and click
> send? (given you'll need to login first to do that, maybe they want you to
> do 2FA, etc etc)
>
> You may be able to do it from SIP, but that needs at least some form of SIP
> stack - not straightforward for a microcontroller.

If you know which service the destination phone uses, you can use their
email-to-SMS gateway. For instance, you can send text to a T-Mobile user by
sending email to ##########@tmomail.net (where the "#"s are the phone
number, with area code).

Getting ESP* devices to send email is trivial; I knocked together a gadget
that sends email when the temperature gets too high in an evening, without
much in the way of prior experience coding for these devices.

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<scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
> Getting [...] devices to send email is trivial;

Increasingly less so. Email providers are putting up more & more barriers
in the battle against spam, which also makes delivery less & less reliable.
There's a reason people are switching to instant messaging: email is
failing.

On 15/08/2022 07:49, A. Dumas wrote:
> <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
>> Getting [...] devices to send email is trivial;
>
> Increasingly less so. Email providers are putting up more & more barriers
> in the battle against spam, which also makes delivery less & less reliable.
> There's a reason people are switching to instant messaging: email is
> failing.

It is fairly easy to set up a relay under your own control. Failing that
a lot of ISPs allow simple SMTP access without authorisation from within
their own IP networks.

Email isn't failing, but it remains overwhelmingly 'pull' technology -
it bears the same relationship to 'instant' messaging as a letter does
to a phone call.

In short it is subject to delays.

--
Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have
guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Josef Stalin

A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
> <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
>> Getting [...] devices to send email is trivial;
>
> Increasingly less so. Email providers are putting up more & more barriers
> in the battle against spam, which also makes delivery less & less reliable.

Yes delivery to humans is getting less and less reliable, but
sending email in an automated way is still quite easy. If you're
sending to an Email-SMS gateway, especially one from a provider
that you have a paid account with, there shouldn't be any problems
with ending up in the junk folder. If your device's emails are
rejected by the SMTP server then you only need to talk to the SMS
gateway provider and get them to allow it, because unlike with
normal email they're the only server that you need to worry about.

> There's a reason people are switching to instant messaging: email is
> failing.

The funny thing is that I'm getting less spam than I used to, yet
reports of my emails not arriving (often it's impossible to
determine whether this means they just went into "junk", which
based on successful SMTP delivery logs seems most likely) have
suddenly become much more frequent.

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A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
> <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
>> Getting [...] devices to send email is trivial;
>
> Increasingly less so. Email providers are putting up more & more barriers
> in the battle against spam, which also makes delivery less & less reliable.
> There's a reason people are switching to instant messaging: email is
> failing.

https://hackaday.com/2022/09/07/the-era-of-distributed-independent-email-servers-is-over/

On 09/09/2022 19:14, A. Dumas wrote:
> A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
>> <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
>>> Getting [...] devices to send email is trivial;
>>
>> Increasingly less so. Email providers are putting up more & more barriers
>> in the battle against spam, which also makes delivery less & less reliable.
>> There's a reason people are switching to instant messaging: email is
>> failing.
>
> https://hackaday.com/2022/09/07/the-era-of-distributed-independent-email-servers-is-over/
>
Which is why I am starting to receive spam on whatsapp and SMS

--
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that sound good.

Burton Hillis (William Vaughn, American columnist)

Re: Re: is there a way to
By: A. Dumas to A. Dumas on Fri Sep 09 2022 06:14 pm

> A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
> > <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
> >> Getting [...] devices to send email is trivial;
> >
> > Increasingly less so. Email providers are putting up more & more barriers
> > in the battle against spam, which also makes delivery less & less reliable
> > There's a reason people are switching to instant messaging: email is
> > failing.
>
> https://hackaday.com/2022/09/07/the-era-of-distributed-independent-email-ser
>
> --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
> * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3

Spam is killing telephones faster than email. I have not found much issue
experimenting with small email services (though I admit that any independent
server which is itself not extremely small has a high chance of making it to a
blacklist). However, phones have reached a point in which if you phone some
grandpa to tell him to show up at the Doctor's office asap because of some
urgent issue, the grandpa won't pick the phone up because he will believe you
to be a Mexican spammer selling car insurance of Internet subscriptions.

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On 2022-09-12, Richard Falken <nospam.Richard.Falken@f1.n770.z11166.fidonet.org>
wrote:

> Spam is killing telephones faster than email. I have not found much issue
> experimenting with small email services (though I admit that any independent
> server which is itself not extremely small has a high chance of making it to a
> blacklist). However, phones have reached a point in which if you phone some
> grandpa to tell him to show up at the Doctor's office asap because of some
> urgent issue, the grandpa won't pick the phone up because he will believe you
> to be a Mexican spammer selling car insurance of Internet subscriptions.

This is where call display is worth its weight in gold. If we don't
recognize the caller - or it's one that can't possibly be good (e.g.
area code 800, 888, etc. or "BLOCKED"), we ignore it. It's quite
effective, since few telemarketers will leave a message.

In the case of your grandpa, he'll see your name and phone number
on the display and know it's safe to pick up. (Yes, there are
some lowlifes who are spoofing caller IDs, but that's rare.)

It might be a chargeable feature in your area, but IMHO it's
well worth a few bucks a month to be able to filter out spammers.

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Re: Re: is there a way to
By: Charlie Gibbs to All on Tue Sep 13 2022 02:44 am

> In the case of your grandpa, he'll see your name and phone number
> on the display and know it's safe to pick up. (Yes, there are
> some lowlifes who are spoofing caller IDs, but that's rare.)
>

Not if you are calling from a clinic's call center and the grandpa does not
recognize the number.

THAT is the problem: having to call from an unrecognized number and having the
call rejected. Even people expectig calls from random people falls for this
sooooo often (ie. you tell some grandpa that a secretary will phone him with
the "details" next morning, and the grandpa does not pick the phone up next
morning because he fears she is a spammer).

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