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* New page when it does not fitCecil Westerhof
+* Re: New page when it does not fitPeter Flynn
|`* Re: New page when it does not fitAxel Berger
| `* Re: New page when it does not fitCecil Westerhof
|  `- Re: New page when it does not fitPeter Flynn
`* Re: New page when it does not fitUlrich D i e z
 `- Re: New page when it does not fitPeter Flynn

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 by: Cecil Westerhof - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 10:33 UTC

A long time ago I used context. There was a possibility to say this
belongs together. When it would not fit on the same page a page break
was added.
Does latex has something like that?

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Cecil Westerhof
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 by: Peter Flynn - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 23:02 UTC

On 12/11/2022 10:33, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> A long time ago I used context. There was a possibility to say this
> belongs together. When it would not fit on the same page a page break
> was added.
> Does latex has something like that?

Put it all in a \vbox but be prepared for lots of error messages.

Peter

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From: Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De (Axel Berger)
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 by: Axel Berger - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 10:51 UTC

Peter Flynn wrote:
> Put it all in a \vbox but be prepared for lots of error messages.

The easiest way to my mind would be a parbox or minipage. Most other
boxes should work too. There is also package needspace, which does
something similar.

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From: Cecil@decebal.nl (Cecil Westerhof)
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 by: Cecil Westerhof - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:32 UTC

Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> writes:

> Peter Flynn wrote:
>> Put it all in a \vbox but be prepared for lots of error messages.
>
> The easiest way to my mind would be a parbox or minipage. Most other
> boxes should work too. There is also package needspace, which does
> something similar.

I am going to study it.

It is 'a lot of work' to start working with latex, but I am sure it is
worth the investment. :-D

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Senior Software Engineer
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 by: Peter Flynn - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 23:20 UTC

On 13/11/2022 13:32, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
[...]
> It is 'a lot of work' to start working with latex, but I am sure it is
> worth the investment.

It would be very useful to those of us who try to write documentation if
you had the time to note down which bits were more work than you
expected, or didn't work the way you thought.

Peter

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 by: Ulrich D i e z - Mon, 14 Nov 2022 10:35 UTC

Am 12.11.22 um 11:33 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:

> A long time ago I used context. There was a possibility to say this
> belongs together. When it would not fit on the same page a page break
> was added.
> Does latex has something like that?

Seems you mean:

- If all the material fits on the page currently constructed by TeX, put
it on that page.
- If all the material does not fit on the page currently constructed by
TeX but fits on the next page, do a page break and put it on the next
page.

There are still some questions:

How to handle page breaking in case there is more material than fits on
a single page?

This case cannot be handled by putting all the material into a single
box.

How to handle footnotes? Not every box, e.g., minipage-environment, is
suitable for having footnotes.

How to handle multicolumn-text?

------------------------------------------------------------------------

With the text within a samepage-environment TeX prefers page breaks
between paragraphs to page breaks within a paragraph.

Ulrich

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 by: Peter Flynn - Mon, 14 Nov 2022 21:06 UTC

On 14/11/2022 10:35, Ulrich D i e z wrote:
> Am 12.11.22 um 11:33 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:
>
>> A long time ago I used context. There was a possibility to say this
>> belongs together. When it would not fit on the same page a page break
>> was added.
>> Does latex has something like that?
>
> Seems you mean:
>
> - If all the material fits on the page currently constructed by TeX, put
> it on that page.
> - If all the material does not fit on the page currently constructed by
> TeX but fits on the next page, do a page break and put it on the next
> page.
>
> There are still some questions:
>
> How to handle page breaking in case there is more material than fits on
> a single page?
>
> This case cannot be handled by putting all the material into a single
> box.
>
> How to handle footnotes? Not every box, e.g., minipage-environment, is
> suitable for having footnotes.
>
> How to handle multicolumn-text?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> With the text within a samepage-environment TeX prefers page breaks
> between paragraphs to page breaks within a paragraph.

Also, what do you do with the page left part-empty by moving the
material to a new page? Fill with white-space, or space out the material
left behind to fill out the page?

Peter

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