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by: vinoth prema - Sat, 20 Aug 2022 02:23 UTC

Dear Experts,

https://helpx.adobe.com/in/fonts/kb/postscript-type-1-fonts-end-of-support.html

Hope this adobe announcement reached to all. In this case I have some clarification

1. What will happen to the engines (latex.exe/pdflatex.exe) which work based on type1.
2. Is the existing type1 based font conversion tools available with in installation like truetype to type1, open type to type1, type1 to others... will continue...

Please advise.

Best regards
-vinoth-

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by: Bob Tennent - Sun, 21 Aug 2022 21:35 UTC

On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 19:23:58 -0700 (PDT), vinoth prema wrote:
>
> https://helpx.adobe.com/in/fonts/kb/postscript-type-1-fonts-end-of-support.html
>
>
> 1. What will happen to the engines (latex.exe/pdflatex.exe) which work based on type1.
> 2. Is the existing type1 based font conversion tools available with in installation
> like truetype to type1, open type to type1, type1 to others... will continue...

This announcement only refers to Adobe commercial products.
LaTeX and related software should not change. And the
Acrobat PDF Reader will continue to display PDFs with
embedded type1 fonts.

Many font packages available at CTAN (and in TeXLive or
MikTeX) support both type1 usage using traditional engines
or truetype/opentype usage using xelatex or lualatex.

Bob Tennent

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by: Peter Flynn - Sun, 21 Aug 2022 22:33 UTC

On 21/08/2022 23:35, Bob Tennent wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 19:23:58 -0700 (PDT), vinoth prema wrote:
> >
> > https://helpx.adobe.com/in/fonts/kb/postscript-type-1-fonts-end-of-support.html
> >
> >
> > 1. What will happen to the engines (latex.exe/pdflatex.exe) which work based on type1.
> > 2. Is the existing type1 based font conversion tools available with in installation
> > like truetype to type1, open type to type1, type1 to others... will continue...
>
> This announcement only refers to Adobe commercial products. LaTeX and
> related software should not change. And the Acrobat PDF Reader will
> continue to display PDFs with embedded type1 fonts.
>
> Many font packages available at CTAN (and in TeXLive or MikTeX)
> support both type1 usage using traditional engines or
> truetype/opentype usage using xelatex or lualatex.

See also my section on this in TUGboat last year
https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb42-1/tb130inn.pdf#page=2

Peter

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by: vinoth prema - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 06:02 UTC

On Monday, 22 August 2022 at 03:05:40 UTC+5:30, Bob Tennent wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 19:23:58 -0700 (PDT), vinoth prema wrote:
> >
> > https://helpx.adobe.com/in/fonts/kb/postscript-type-1-fonts-end-of-support.html
> >
> >
> > 1. What will happen to the engines (latex.exe/pdflatex.exe) which work based on type1.
> > 2. Is the existing type1 based font conversion tools available with in installation
> > like truetype to type1, open type to type1, type1 to others... will continue...
> This announcement only refers to Adobe commercial products.
> LaTeX and related software should not change. And the
> Acrobat PDF Reader will continue to display PDFs with
> embedded type1 fonts.
>
> Many font packages available at CTAN (and in TeXLive or
> MikTeX) support both type1 usage using traditional engines
> or truetype/opentype usage using xelatex or lualatex.
>
> Bob Tennent

Thank you all for sharing your observation on it. Shall I assume moving forward

1. author society who creating latex papers hereafter majorly will move towards xelatex or lualatex instead of latex or pdflatex
2. the ctan font packages hereafter will not release based on type1.

Please advise.

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by: Bob Tennent - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 10:47 UTC

On Sun, 21 Aug 2022 23:02:35 -0700 (PDT), vinoth prema wrote:
> On Monday, 22 August 2022 at 03:05:40 UTC+5:30, Bob Tennent wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 19:23:58 -0700 (PDT), vinoth prema wrote:
>> >
https://helpx.adobe.com/in/fonts/kb/postscript-type-1-fonts-end-of-support.html
>> >
>> >
>> > 1. What will happen to the engines (latex.exe/pdflatex.exe) which work based on type1.
>> > 2. Is the existing type1 based font conversion tools available with in installation
>> > like truetype to type1, open type to type1, type1 to others... will continue...
>> This announcement only refers to Adobe commercial products.
>> LaTeX and related software should not change. And the
>> Acrobat PDF Reader will continue to display PDFs with
>> embedded type1 fonts.
>>
>> Many font packages available at CTAN (and in TeXLive or
>> MikTeX) support both type1 usage using traditional engines
>> or truetype/opentype usage using xelatex or lualatex.
>>
>> Bob Tennent
>
> Thank you all for sharing your observation on it. Shall I assume
> moving forward
>
> 1. author society who creating latex papers hereafter majorly will
> move towards xelatex or lualatex instead of latex or pdflatex
> 2. the ctan font packages hereafter will not release based on type1.

No you should not make those assumptions; "author societies"
will make their own decisions and CTAN does not control what
font packages choose to support.

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by: Peter Flynn - Tue, 23 Aug 2022 11:39 UTC

On 22/08/2022 07:02, vinoth prema wrote:
[...]
> Thank you all for sharing your observation on it. Shall I assume
> moving forward
>
> 1. author society who creating latex papers hereafter majorly will
> move towards xelatex or lualatex instead of latex or pdflatex

Not really: TeX processors are not affected by the change, only Adobe
software.

But yes, people may prefer in future to use TTF or OTF fonts instead of PS.

> 2. the ctan font packages hereafter will not release based on type1.

Not really either, except that package authors may choose to add TTF
and/or OTF support to packages currently supporting PS fonts.

Again, it's only Adobe's own software that is affected.

Peter

Subject	Author
Type1 Adobe Announcement	vinoth prema
Re: Type1 Adobe Announcement	Bob Tennent
Re: Type1 Adobe Announcement	Peter Flynn
Re: Type1 Adobe Announcement	vinoth prema
Re: Type1 Adobe Announcement	Bob Tennent
Re: Type1 Adobe Announcement	Peter Flynn