Just curious if others see this issue?

https://podiatryassociates.org/locations/
Across the top there is a banner with 'info' and 'patient portal' links.
With firefox, the phone #s are not centered in the banner like edge or chrome.
The phone number below that with the facebook etc links has the last # covered by facebook.

At least that's what I see in my FF.
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Al

On 7/10/2023 8:31 AM, Big Al wrote:
> Just curious if others see this issue?
>
> https://podiatryassociates.org/locations/
> Across the top there is a banner with 'info' and 'patient portal' links.
> With firefox, the phone #s are not centered in the banner like edge or
> chrome.
> The phone number below that with the facebook etc links has the last #
> covered by facebook.
>
> At least that's what I see in my FF.

It looks good in my windows system

On 10-Jul-2023 09:31, Big Al wrote:
> Just curious if others see this issue?
>
> https://podiatryassociates.org/locations/
> Across the top there is a banner with 'info' and 'patient portal' links.
> With firefox, the phone #s are not centered in the banner like edge or
> chrome.
> The phone number below that with the facebook etc links has the last #
> covered by facebook.
>
> At least that's what I see in my FF.

Last # covered when I zoom at 125% below that all is good.

On 7/10/23 10:55, this is what Serdu wrote:
> On 10-Jul-2023 09:31, Big Al wrote:
>> Just curious if others see this issue?
>>
>> https://podiatryassociates.org/locations/
>> Across the top there is a banner with 'info' and 'patient portal' links.
>> With firefox, the phone #s are not centered in the banner like edge or chrome.
>> The phone number below that with the facebook etc links has the last # covered by facebook.
>>
>> At least that's what I see in my FF.
>
> Last # covered when I zoom at 125% below that all is good
My default is 110% but even down at 70% it's still missing. Might be Linux vs Windows.
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Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon 5.6.8
Al

Big Al wrote:

> Just curious if others see this issue?

can't tell, due to geo-blocking.

On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 09:31:18 -0400, Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:

>Just curious if others see this issue?
>
>https://podiatryassociates.org/locations/
>Across the top there is a banner with 'info' and 'patient portal' links.
>With firefox, the phone #s are not centered in the banner like edge or chrome.
>The phone number below that with the facebook etc links has the last # covered by facebook.
>
>At least that's what I see in my FF.

Win 11 and Ffox 115.0.1... and as you, I also see the phone number
partially obscured. The patient portal and email prompt are virtually
non-existent, though the clicking on the tips does open them.

As I run scaling on my monitor at 125%, I tried dropping that to
(recommended) 100% but nothing changed.

Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:

> Just curious if others see this issue?
>
> https://podiatryassociates.org/locations/
> Across the top there is a banner with 'info' and 'patient portal'
> links. With firefox, the phone #s are not centered in the banner like
> edge or chrome. The phone number below that with the facebook etc
> links has the last # covered by facebook.
>
> At least that's what I see in my FF.
^^
Which version? On which OS? ______/

For me in Firefox x64 115.0.1 on Windows 10 Home x64 22H2, the phone
numbers are centered in the boxes shown for each site, but those are
lower on the web page. I don't see a "banner" with multiple phone
numbers (you used plural meaning there are more than 1 phone number).
The only phone number I see is at the top of the web page alongside of
which are clickable icons for socially-needy web sites misused for
advertising.

Take screenshots of the web page in Firefox, and do the same for using
Edge and Chrome. Then uploaded the images to online storage (e.g.,
Imgur), and give the URLs to those uploaded images - so we can see what
you see instead of trying to guess what you mean by your description.

This is what I see at the top of the web page:

https://imgur.com/a/1sqBz2C

I have uBlock Origin, and it does block some content there (16
resources, or 10% content). I loaded the same web page into
Edge-Chromium 114.0.1823.67, and saw the same rendering as in Firefox.

So, have you yet tried disabling all add-ons in Firefox, and then
revisit the same web page?

Note: The web layout is not designed to be flexible to adapt to
different zoom levels. That's the fault of the web designer, not of the
web browser. If the web dev doesn't design using flex space, objects
will move outside the document window, or objects will obliterate each
other.

On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 13:10:53 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

< SNIP

>
> This is what I see at the top of the web page:
>
> https://imgur.com/a/1sqBz2C
>
> I have uBlock Origin, and it does block some content there (16
> resources, or 10% content). I loaded the same web page into
> Edge-Chromium 114.0.1823.67, and saw the same rendering as in Firefox.
>
I'm running FireFox 115.0 on LMDE5 and I see the same thing as https://
imgur.com/a/1sqBz2C
<SNIP>
Pull my finger

On 7/10/23 14:10, this is what VanguardLH wrote:
> Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> Just curious if others see this issue?
>>
>> https://podiatryassociates.org/locations/
>> Across the top there is a banner with 'info' and 'patient portal'
>> links. With firefox, the phone #s are not centered in the banner like
>> edge or chrome. The phone number below that with the facebook etc
>> links has the last # covered by facebook.
>>
>> At least that's what I see in my FF.
> ^^
> Which version? On which OS? ______/
>
> For me in Firefox x64 115.0.1 on Windows 10 Home x64 22H2, the phone
> numbers are centered in the boxes shown for each site, but those are
> lower on the web page. I don't see a "banner" with multiple phone
> numbers (you used plural meaning there are more than 1 phone number).
> The only phone number I see is at the top of the web page alongside of
> which are clickable icons for socially-needy web sites misused for
> advertising.
>
> Take screenshots of the web page in Firefox, and do the same for using
> Edge and Chrome. Then uploaded the images to online storage (e.g.,
> Imgur), and give the URLs to those uploaded images - so we can see what
> you see instead of trying to guess what you mean by your description.
>
> This is what I see at the top of the web page:
>
> https://imgur.com/a/1sqBz2C
>
> I have uBlock Origin, and it does block some content there (16
> resources, or 10% content). I loaded the same web page into
> Edge-Chromium 114.0.1823.67, and saw the same rendering as in Firefox.
>
> So, have you yet tried disabling all add-ons in Firefox, and then
> revisit the same web page?
>
> Note: The web layout is not designed to be flexible to adapt to
> different zoom levels. That's the fault of the web designer, not of the
> web browser. If the web dev doesn't design using flex space, objects
> will move outside the document window, or objects will obliterate each
> other.
Linux Mint 21.1
My bad, the banner has 2 links for 'info' and 'patient portal'. The words for the links are not centered.
But yes, a picture is worth a 1000 words. Here.

https://postimg.cc/TytwJjkB
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Al

Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:

> On 7/10/23 14:10, this is what VanguardLH wrote:
>> Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just curious if others see this issue?
>>>
>>> https://podiatryassociates.org/locations/
>>> Across the top there is a banner with 'info' and 'patient portal'
>>> links. With firefox, the phone #s are not centered in the banner like
>>> edge or chrome. The phone number below that with the facebook etc
>>> links has the last # covered by facebook.
>>>
>>> At least that's what I see in my FF.
>> ^^
>> Which version? On which OS? ______/
>>
>> For me in Firefox x64 115.0.1 on Windows 10 Home x64 22H2, the phone
>> numbers are centered in the boxes shown for each site, but those are
>> lower on the web page. I don't see a "banner" with multiple phone
>> numbers (you used plural meaning there are more than 1 phone number).
>> The only phone number I see is at the top of the web page alongside of
>> which are clickable icons for socially-needy web sites misused for
>> advertising.
>>
>> Take screenshots of the web page in Firefox, and do the same for using
>> Edge and Chrome. Then uploaded the images to online storage (e.g.,
>> Imgur), and give the URLs to those uploaded images - so we can see what
>> you see instead of trying to guess what you mean by your description.
>>
>> This is what I see at the top of the web page:
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/1sqBz2C
>>
>> I have uBlock Origin, and it does block some content there (16
>> resources, or 10% content). I loaded the same web page into
>> Edge-Chromium 114.0.1823.67, and saw the same rendering as in Firefox.
>>
>> So, have you yet tried disabling all add-ons in Firefox, and then
>> revisit the same web page?
>>
>> Note: The web layout is not designed to be flexible to adapt to
>> different zoom levels. That's the fault of the web designer, not of the
>> web browser. If the web dev doesn't design using flex space, objects
>> will move outside the document window, or objects will obliterate each
>> other.
> Linux Mint 21.1
> My bad, the banner has 2 links for 'info' and 'patient portal'. The words for the links are not centered.
> But yes, a picture is worth a 1000 words. Here.
>
> https://postimg.cc/TytwJjkB

I noticed the moment I zoomed in to just 110% (the first increment), the
layout started getting screwed up. The social site icons started to
overlap the 833 phone number to the left of the icons. The more I
zoomed, the more obliteration there was with elements overlapping other
elements. What you show is what I see once I change from 100% to 120%:
their first indication of bad or no flex positioning is the e-mail
address and "Patient Portal" text moves down a line to be lower then the
icons alongside them on the left.

I normally leave my web browsers set to 100% zoom (i.e., no
magnification). I do have DPI in Windows set to 150% to make text more
legible. On higher resolution screens, and because the screen size is
not linear to the increase in resolution, the same number of pixels is
used to paint text but the text gets smaller because the pixels take
less space. Higher resolution monitors still show text using the same
number of pixels, so text gets smaller. I use DPI to enlarge text.
Problem with upping the DPI is that there are still a lot of programs
that are not DPI aware, so sometimes text gets truncated because the
author didn't allocate enough space for the DPI magnification, or
objects overlap text fields.

Change Firefox to 100% zoom, and recheck visiting that web page.

On 7/10/23 15:34, this is what VanguardLH wrote:
> Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 7/10/23 14:10, this is what VanguardLH wrote:
>>> Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just curious if others see this issue?
>>>>
>>>> https://podiatryassociates.org/locations/
>>>> Across the top there is a banner with 'info' and 'patient portal'
>>>> links. With firefox, the phone #s are not centered in the banner like
>>>> edge or chrome. The phone number below that with the facebook etc
>>>> links has the last # covered by facebook.
>>>>
>>>> At least that's what I see in my FF.
>>> ^^
>>> Which version? On which OS? ______/
>>>
>>> For me in Firefox x64 115.0.1 on Windows 10 Home x64 22H2, the phone
>>> numbers are centered in the boxes shown for each site, but those are
>>> lower on the web page. I don't see a "banner" with multiple phone
>>> numbers (you used plural meaning there are more than 1 phone number).
>>> The only phone number I see is at the top of the web page alongside of
>>> which are clickable icons for socially-needy web sites misused for
>>> advertising.
>>>
>>> Take screenshots of the web page in Firefox, and do the same for using
>>> Edge and Chrome. Then uploaded the images to online storage (e.g.,
>>> Imgur), and give the URLs to those uploaded images - so we can see what
>>> you see instead of trying to guess what you mean by your description.
>>>
>>> This is what I see at the top of the web page:
>>>
>>> https://imgur.com/a/1sqBz2C
>>>
>>> I have uBlock Origin, and it does block some content there (16
>>> resources, or 10% content). I loaded the same web page into
>>> Edge-Chromium 114.0.1823.67, and saw the same rendering as in Firefox.
>>>
>>> So, have you yet tried disabling all add-ons in Firefox, and then
>>> revisit the same web page?
>>>
>>> Note: The web layout is not designed to be flexible to adapt to
>>> different zoom levels. That's the fault of the web designer, not of the
>>> web browser. If the web dev doesn't design using flex space, objects
>>> will move outside the document window, or objects will obliterate each
>>> other.
>> Linux Mint 21.1
>> My bad, the banner has 2 links for 'info' and 'patient portal'. The words for the links are not centered.
>> But yes, a picture is worth a 1000 words. Here.
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/TytwJjkB
>
> I noticed the moment I zoomed in to just 110% (the first increment), the
> layout started getting screwed up. The social site icons started to
> overlap the 833 phone number to the left of the icons. The more I
> zoomed, the more obliteration there was with elements overlapping other
> elements. What you show is what I see once I change from 100% to 120%:
> their first indication of bad or no flex positioning is the e-mail
> address and "Patient Portal" text moves down a line to be lower then the
> icons alongside them on the left.
>
> I normally leave my web browsers set to 100% zoom (i.e., no
> magnification). I do have DPI in Windows set to 150% to make text more
> legible. On higher resolution screens, and because the screen size is
> not linear to the increase in resolution, the same number of pixels is
> used to paint text but the text gets smaller because the pixels take
> less space. Higher resolution monitors still show text using the same
> number of pixels, so text gets smaller. I use DPI to enlarge text.
> Problem with upping the DPI is that there are still a lot of programs
> that are not DPI aware, so sometimes text gets truncated because the
> author didn't allocate enough space for the DPI magnification, or
> objects overlap text fields.
>
> Change Firefox to 100% zoom, and recheck visiting that web page.
Serdu posted that he only saw the problem at 125%, and I tried every scale and found I had to scale up to 150% to get it
working, at least the phone #. The links at the top just never work.
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Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon 5.6.8
Al

"Big Al" <Bears@invalid.com> wrote

| Serdu posted that he only saw the problem at 125%, and I tried every scale
and found I had to scale up to 150% to get it
| working, at least the phone #. The links at the top just never work.

That whole bar is dynamically generated with script. It might
be "optimized for Chrome". It might be a bug. It might be
they're misreading your screen portal size. I don't see it at all
because I don't enable script. This is becoming common. I have
to disable CSS to see menu links because they're hidden
with script disabled, apparently to force script, since the actual
links are perfectly clear with no CSS.

It's a crap, generic website. A drag/drop, do it yourself
thing. Much of the content is coming from "websitepro-cdn.com"
The code looks much like similar sites by Wix or Squarespace.
Not quite as bad. There is actually some HTML there. :) But
sites like that break easily. Everything has to be just right
because there's so much script complexity. Interestingly, despite
being subject to HIPAA, the page is calling in script from 4
Google domains plus "marketingautomation.services" and
"localeedge.com".

My doctor also uses the athena health portal service, too. I try
to avoid it as much as possible. It doesn't work well and not
at all if I'm not on Win10. But the doctors are subcontracting to
athena and athena probably contracts to web designers,
who in turn don't know how to code. No one's responsible.

Op 10-07-2023 om 17:17 schreef Big Al:
> On 7/10/23 10:55, this is what Serdu wrote:
>> On 10-Jul-2023 09:31, Big Al wrote:
>>> Just curious if others see this issue?
>>>
>>> https://podiatryassociates.org/locations/
>>> Across the top there is a banner with 'info' and 'patient portal' links.
>>> With firefox, the phone #s are not centered in the banner like edge
>>> or chrome.
>>> The phone number below that with the facebook etc links has the last
>>> # covered by facebook.
>>>
>>> At least that's what I see in my FF.
>>
>> Last # covered when I zoom at 125% below that all is good
> My default is 110% but even down at 70% it's still missing.  Might be
> Linux vs Windows.
It works fine on my Linux system (and no geo blocking)

Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:

> Big Al wrote:
>
>> https://podiatryassociates.org/locations/
>
> no geo blocking

Not even the link to the portal itself?

<https://6814.portal.athenahealth.com/>

what continent are you on?

Op 17-07-2023 om 18:11 schreef Andy Burns:
> Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
>
>> Big Al wrote:
>>
>>> https://podiatryassociates.org/locations/
>>
>> no geo blocking
>
> Not even the link to the portal itself?
>
> <https://6814.portal.athenahealth.com/>
>
> what continent are you on?

You are right, the protal is blocked based on IP:
Client: 86.82.140.xxx Access not permitted. If you are seeing this
message, this service is not currently available. If you need to
correspond with your healthcare provider, please contact them directly.

I am in The Netherlands, so as a client of this lot you are not supposed
to travel :)