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* Downloading all headers in newly subscribed groupLloyd Cromer
+* Re: Downloading all headers in newly subscribed groupNomen Nescio
|`- Re: Downloading all headers in newly subscribed grouppyotr filipivich
`- Re: Downloading all headers in newly subscribed groupRalph Fox

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Subject: Downloading all headers in newly subscribed group
From: ljcromer@gmail.com (Lloyd Cromer)
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 by: Lloyd Cromer - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 19:50 UTC

I am using Agent ver 1.93 (yeah, I know, but it serves my purpose, but have Newsbin pro to do the heavy lifting when downloading nzb files)
My questions when I subscribe to a new group, I am limited to under 1 million headers retrieval.
I think I am getting around this by sampling headers with around 900,000 many times until I get as far back as I need to be. Too tedious at times and really not sure if that works.
My question is, does any newer version break the 1 million header limit? Some groups have millions (a.b.e-book.magazines) of headers that I would love to see all.
Thanks. BTW, great informative group.

Re: Downloading all headers in newly subscribed group

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From: nobody@dizum.com (Nomen Nescio)
Subject: Re: Downloading all headers in newly subscribed group
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 by: Nomen Nescio - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 20:23 UTC

In article <bebe1e55-06a6-4b11-b10f-ed2bce0c629dn@googlegroups.com>
Lloyd Cromer <ljcromer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am using Agent ver 1.93 (yeah, I know, but it serves my purpose, but have Newsbin pro to do the heavy lifting when downloading nzb files)
> My questions when I subscribe to a new group, I am limited to under 1 million headers retrieval.
> I think I am getting around this by sampling headers with around 900,000 many times until I get as far back as I need to be. Too tedious at times and really not sure if that works.
> My question is, does any newer version break the 1 million header limit? Some groups have millions (a.b.e-book.magazines) of headers that I would love to see all.
> Thanks. BTW, great informative group.

Why would anyone want to download a million headers, many that are
probably between 10 & 20 years old?

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From: phamp@mindspring.com (pyotr filipivich)
Newsgroups: alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
Subject: Re: Downloading all headers in newly subscribed group
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2023 20:35:51 -0800
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 by: pyotr filipivich - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 04:35 UTC

Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> on Wed, 1 Mar 2023 21:23:40 +0100
(CET) typed in alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent the following:
>In article <bebe1e55-06a6-4b11-b10f-ed2bce0c629dn@googlegroups.com>
>Lloyd Cromer <ljcromer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am using Agent ver 1.93 (yeah, I know, but it serves my purpose, but have Newsbin pro to do the heavy lifting when downloading nzb files)
>> My questions when I subscribe to a new group, I am limited to under 1 million headers retrieval.
>> I think I am getting around this by sampling headers with around 900,000 many times until I get as far back as I need to be. Too tedious at times and really not sure if that works.
>> My question is, does any newer version break the 1 million header limit? Some groups have millions (a.b.e-book.magazines) of headers that I would love to see all.
>> Thanks. BTW, great informative group.
>
>Why would anyone want to download a million headers, many that are
>probably between 10 & 20 years old?

in the binary groups, posts from 10 to 20 years ago are likely to
still be of interest. Of course, a million headers in some groups
isn't that long ago, either.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

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From: -rf-nz-@-.invalid (Ralph Fox)
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Subject: Re: Downloading all headers in newly subscribed group
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 by: Ralph Fox - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 05:59 UTC

On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 11:50:51 -0800 (PST), Lloyd Cromer wrote:

> I am using Agent ver 1.93 (yeah, I know, but it serves my purpose, but
> have Newsbin pro to do the heavy lifting when downloading nzb files)
> My questions when I subscribe to a new group, I am limited to under 1
> million headers retrieval.
> I think I am getting around this by sampling headers with around
> 900,000 many times until I get as far back as I need to be. Too tedious
> at times and really not sure if that works.
> My question is, does any newer version break the 1 million header limit?
> Some groups have millions (a.b.e-book.magazines) of headers that I would
> love to see all.
> Thanks. BTW, great informative group.

This is what the release notes say:

Agent 2.0 Release Notes
<https://www.forteinc.com/release/notes.php?id=20>

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Improved Header Retrieval Capacity and Performance

    Agent 2.0 has increased the maximum number of headers that can be
    retrieved at one time from 1 million (Agent 1.93) to 8 million
    (Agent 2.0).
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Agent 4.2 Release Notes
<https://www.forteinc.com/release/notes.php?id=42>

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Database

    *  The maximum number of messages that can be retrieved and saved
       in a folder is now 16 million.

    *  We've increased to 1 billion (1,000,000,000) the limit on the
       number of headers Agent can attempt to retrieve. You can enter
       this number in the Sample Recent Headers dialog and the Usenet
       Messages panel of the Default Properties for All Folders and
       Properties for Selected Folders dialogs. This allows Agent to
       retrieve more headers than the 16 million limit (see above),
       then join headers and apply any kill filters to bring the
       total down to what Agent can handle. If the number of headers
       is still greater than 16 million Agent will keep the 16
       million oldest messages.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--
Kind regards
Ralph Fox

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