Comes from my father who in turn "inherited" from the Dutch IBM PC Club.

Looks as if very little used, no clue if it still works, so make me an offer,
and you have to be EU based, or maybe UK, but only if you can find someone to
take it.

It's heavy(ish) so shipping will be extra, as yet no clue how much, happy to use
Lietuvas Postas or a courier, up to you.

Currently in Lithuania, and not much chance that it or I will move westwards for
probably a long time.

Robert
--
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The hitchhiking grandfather @ https://prino.neocities.org/
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On 2024-02-25 18:52, Robert Prins wrote:
> Comes from my father who in turn "inherited" from the Dutch IBM PC Club.
>
> Looks as if very little used, no clue if it still works, so make me an offer,
> and you have to be EU based, or maybe UK, but only if you can find someone to
> take it.
>
> It's heavy(ish) so shipping will be extra, as yet no clue how much, happy to use
> Lietuvas Postas or a courier, up to you.
>
> Currently in Lithuania, and not much chance that it or I will move westwards for
> probably a long time.

Nobody?

I'll keep it until the end of this month, after that it will mercilessly go to
the local garbage dump.

Robert
--
Robert AH Prins
robert(a)prino(d)org
The hitchhiking grandfather @ https://prino.neocities.org/
Some useful(?) REXX @ https://prino.neocities.org/zOS/zOS-Tools.html

I didn't know there was such steely resolve in Lithuania...

4869-001/002
https://www.ardent-tool.com/floppy/4869-002.html

As built by IBM, the 4869 supports a floppy drive. The DB37 cable is
permanently attached to the enclosure. It _IS_ possible to "hack" a SCSI
connector onto the enclosure and replace the floppy controller cable,
but it's not common, to say the least.

3510 External SCSI Enclosure
https://www.ardent-tool.com/3510/

This external enclosure was available with HD, CDROM, or Tape. Any 5.25"
SCSI device will work as well [of course].

So when you say a CD with a caddy, that suggests something other than a
4869.

Robert Prins wrote:
> I'll keep it until the end of this month, after that it will mercilessly
> go to the local garbage dump.

On 2024-03-07 12:55, Louis Ohland wrote:
> I didn't know there was such steely resolve in Lithuania...

I'm Dutch...

> 4869-001/002
> https://www.ardent-tool.com/floppy/4869-002.html

That's something else, this.is.a.4869.CD.drive.with.caddy! Bottom tells me

Type 4869 86-0612737
Made in Japan
FRU #72X6768

And it's for 100-240V

Robert
--
Robert AH Prins
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The hitchhiking grandfather @ https://prino.neocities.org/
Some useful(?) REXX @ https://prino.neocities.org/zOS/zOS-Tools.html

>
> As built by IBM, the 4869 supports a floppy drive. The DB37 cable is permanently
> attached to the enclosure. It _IS_ possible to "hack" a SCSI connector onto the
> enclosure and replace the floppy controller cable, but it's not common, to say
> the least.
>
> 3510 External SCSI Enclosure
> https://www.ardent-tool.com/3510/
>
> This external enclosure was available with HD, CDROM, or Tape. Any 5.25" SCSI
> device will work as well [of course].
>
> So when you say a CD with a caddy, that suggests something other than a 4869.
>
> Robert Prins wrote:
>> I'll keep it until the end of this month, after that it will mercilessly go to
>> the local garbage dump.

--

Pictures?

Robert Prins wrote:
> On 2024-03-07 12:55, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> I didn't know there was such steely resolve in Lithuania...
>
> I'm Dutch...
>
>> 4869-001/002
>> https://www.ardent-tool.com/floppy/4869-002.html
>
> That's something else, this.is.a.4869.CD.drive.with.caddy! Bottom tells me
>
> Type 4869 86-0612737
> Made in Japan
> FRU #72X6768
>
> And it's for 100-240V
>
> Robert
> --
> Robert AH Prins
> robert(a)prino(d)org
> The hitchhiking grandfather @ https://prino.neocities.org/
> Some useful(?) REXX @ https://prino.neocities.org/zOS/zOS-Tools.html
>
>>
>> As built by IBM, the 4869 supports a floppy drive. The DB37 cable is
>> permanently attached to the enclosure. It _IS_ possible to "hack" a
>> SCSI connector onto the enclosure and replace the floppy controller
>> cable, but it's not common, to say the least.
>>
>> 3510 External SCSI Enclosure
>> https://www.ardent-tool.com/3510/
>>
>> This external enclosure was available with HD, CDROM, or Tape. Any
>> 5.25" SCSI device will work as well [of course].
>>
>> So when you say a CD with a caddy, that suggests something other than
>> a 4869.
>>
>> Robert Prins wrote:
>>> I'll keep it until the end of this month, after that it will
>>> mercilessly go to the local garbage dump.
>

Robert Prins <robert@prino.org> wrote:
> On 2024-03-07 12:55, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> I didn't know there was such steely resolve in Lithuania...
>
> I'm Dutch...
>
>> 4869-001/002
>> https://www.ardent-tool.com/floppy/4869-002.html
>
> That's something else, this.is.a.4869.CD.drive.with.caddy! Bottom tells me
>
> Type 4869 86-0612737
> Made in Japan
> FRU #72X6768
>
> And it's for 100-240V
>
> Robert
> --
> Robert AH Prins
> robert(a)prino(d)org
> The hitchhiking grandfather @ https://prino.neocities.org/
> Some useful(?) REXX @ https://prino.neocities.org/zOS/zOS-Tools.html
>
>>
>> As built by IBM, the 4869 supports a floppy drive. The DB37 cable is permanently
>> attached to the enclosure. It _IS_ possible to "hack" a SCSI connector onto the
>> enclosure and replace the floppy controller cable, but it's not common, to say
>> the least.
>>
>> 3510 External SCSI Enclosure
>> https://www.ardent-tool.com/3510/
>>
>> This external enclosure was available with HD, CDROM, or Tape. Any 5.25" SCSI
>> device will work as well [of course].
>>
>> So when you say a CD with a caddy, that suggests something other than a 4869.
>>
>> Robert Prins wrote:
>>> I'll keep it until the end of this month, after that it will mercilessly go to
>>> the local garbage dump.
>

Maybe someone swapped the 5 1/4 drive with a cdrom? Just a thought…

The 4869 floppy is connected to the DB37 cable.

I suppose it is possumble to use a floppy interface CDROM [akin to the
Micro Solutions Backpack].

When I get pictures, it should clear things up. Maybe.

Alexandros wrote:
> Maybe someone swapped the 5 1/4 drive with a cdrom? Just a thought…

Oops. Maybe they used a parallel port CDROM and swapped the DB37 for a DB25?

The Micro Solutions Backpack is a -Parallel Port- connected CDROM

Louis Ohland wrote:
> I suppose it is possumble to use a floppy interface CDROM [akin to the
> Micro Solutions Backpack].

On 2024-03-07 22:49, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Oops. Maybe they used a parallel port CDROM and swapped the DB37 for a DB25?
>
> The Micro Solutions Backpack is a -Parallel Port- connected CDROM
>
> Louis Ohland wrote:
>> I suppose it is possumble to use a floppy interface CDROM [akin to the Micro
>> Solutions Backpack].

This might be a clue, in the aluminium case in which this thing came there was
also a manual for a Micro Solutions floppy disk drive, though not the drive! I
think my father might have had one of the latter, but it was not in any of the
banana boxes (27) we took from the Netherlands in December, there are still
about a dozen in the Netherlands, with more stuff, so whenever we go there again
with the car, they may come this way, and I'll have to check. And "whenever"
could be April, but it could also be September...

Robert
--
Robert AH Prins
robert(a)prino(d)org
The hitchhiking grandfather @ https://prino.neocities.org/
Some useful(?) REXX @ https://prino.neocities.org/zOS/zOS-Tools.html

I looked at the two pictures, and yes, it IS a 4869 case. No doubts. Red
power switch. "Design Protection Applied For"

The connector end of the cable is a DB25.

Since Robert has foundt a manuel for a Micro Solutions floppy drive, it
seems possumble that a "Battlefloppy" was modified to support a CDROM.

This makes me curious, blue. The mod should be pretty straight forward.
I wandt to see some privat feelty-feely T00l-P0rn inside the opened case.

Robert Prins wrote:
> On 2024-03-07 22:49, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> Oops. Maybe they used a parallel port CDROM and swapped the DB37 for a
>> DB25?
>>
>> The Micro Solutions Backpack is a -Parallel Port- connected CDROM
>>
>> Louis Ohland wrote:
>>> I suppose it is possumble to use a floppy interface CDROM [akin to
>>> the Micro Solutions Backpack].
>
> This might be a clue, in the aluminium case in which this thing came
> there was also a manual for a Micro Solutions floppy disk drive, though
> not the drive! I think my father might have had one of the latter, but
> it was not in any of the banana boxes (27) we took from the Netherlands
> in December, there are still about a dozen in the Netherlands, with more
> stuff, so whenever we go there again with the car, they may come this
> way, and I'll have to check. And "whenever" could be April, but it could
> also be September...
>
> Robert

Got some pics, and there is a very simmple PCB with no apparent
components. I then suggested the PCB might tie all the grounds
together... like with a MCS-600 SCSI adapter with... a DB25 port...

I think this 4869-CD is a standard XM3101BME SCSI CDROM, with a simmple
PCB to convert it to a DB25, cable connects to a SCSI adapter...

Louis Ohland wrote:
> I looked at the two pictures, and yes, it IS a 4869 case. No doubts. Red
> power switch. "Design Protection Applied For"
>
> The connector end of the cable is a DB25.
>
> Since Robert has foundt a manuel for a Micro Solutions floppy drive, it
> seems possumble that a "Battlefloppy" was modified to support a CDROM.
>
> This makes me curious, blue. The mod should be pretty straight forward.
> I wandt to see some privat feelty-feely T00l-P0rn inside the opened case.
>
> Robert Prins wrote:
>> On 2024-03-07 22:49, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>> Oops. Maybe they used a parallel port CDROM and swapped the DB37 for
>>> a DB25?
>>>
>>> The Micro Solutions Backpack is a -Parallel Port- connected CDROM
>>>
>>> Louis Ohland wrote:
>>>> I suppose it is possumble to use a floppy interface CDROM [akin to
>>>> the Micro Solutions Backpack].
>>
>> This might be a clue, in the aluminium case in which this thing came
>> there was also a manual for a Micro Solutions floppy disk drive,
>> though not the drive! I think my father might have had one of the
>> latter, but it was not in any of the banana boxes (27) we took from
>> the Netherlands in December, there are still about a dozen in the
>> Netherlands, with more stuff, so whenever we go there again with the
>> car, they may come this way, and I'll have to check. And "whenever"
>> could be April, but it could also be September...
>>
>> Robert