All I know for certain is that at "random" intervals clicking on
Eudora's "fetch mail" button causes "blue screen of death" failure.

It reboots right nicely, and then windows notifies me that it is
recovering, blah blah, "check for solution?" I click yes, and the
popup disappears.

What do I use to go through the memory dump files, what would I
be searching for when I'm there, and what does it all mean?

And - recommendations for replacement of Eudora, and migrating the
associated three decades of mailbox archives?
--
pyotr filipivich
"We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious
is the first duty of intelligent men." George Orwell

On Thu, 04 Aug 2022 22:35:56 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
> All I know for certain is that at "random" intervals clicking on
>Eudora's "fetch mail" button causes "blue screen of death" failure.
>
> It reboots right nicely, and then windows notifies me that it is
>recovering, blah blah, "check for solution?" I click yes, and the
>popup disappears.
>
> What do I use to go through the memory dump files, what would I
>be searching for when I'm there, and what does it all mean?
>
> And - recommendations for replacement of Eudora, and migrating the
>associated three decades of mailbox archives?

Are you running Eudora on Win7? I have it on WinXP. It has been
troublesome on Win7. I still keep it there for those 'years of
mailboxes' which I have to copy/paste over in Explorer. (a .bat file
wouldn't work). Nice to know there's a few Eudora junkies still out
there. No other email client ever equaled it.

On Thu, 04 Aug 2022 22:35:56 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> All I know for certain is that at "random" intervals clicking on
> Eudora's "fetch mail" button causes "blue screen of death" failure.
>
> It reboots right nicely, and then windows notifies me that it is
> recovering, blah blah, "check for solution?" I click yes, and the
> popup disappears.
>
> What do I use to go through the memory dump files, what would I
> be searching for when I'm there, and what does it all mean?
>
> And - recommendations for replacement of Eudora, and migrating the
> associated three decades of mailbox archives?

It's actually quite difficult nowadays to intentionally trigger a BSOD
_without_ elevated privileges. If BSOD occurs, it's not due to common
applications - which are run in user space, and are normally run without
elevated privileges.

The actual error occurs during code execution with elevated privileges,
which always happen in the kernel space. Device drivers also run in the the
kernel space. And hardwares are handled by device drivers.

So, there are 3 categories of possible places: the kernel (the OS itself), a
device driver, and a hardware.

An error dump contains the type of the error, the location where the error
occured, and what drivers are involved. The (small) memory part of the dump
contains the memory data used for the execution of the involved functions.
The optional full memory dump contains the memory data used for the involved
functions themselves.

Without familiarity with OS internals, programming knowledge, _and_ the
software source codes (as references); it'll be impossible to know right
away what have caused it. By far, it would only serve as a hint of the many
possibilities of what have caused it.

Pinpointing the location of the actual cause of the error itself is
difficult. The error location can be either in the OS kernel, or a device
driver; and the error may occur at different locations. This is because an
error can be a gradual error. Meaning that, when it occurs, it's not
initially a severe error. But as the errorneous command/result is passed
to/from device drivers and the OS kernel (where each would process it), it
would become more and more errorneous. The severity of the error would
gradually increase until it's severe enough to trigger a BSOD.

So, the OS kernel or any of the involved device driver, are all possible
culprits. And remember, the error might came from the hardwares themselves.
e.g. errorneous hardware command causes the hardware to give incorrect
result, or the hardware gave an errorneous result due to hardware failure,
or power supply instability which may affect any device attached to the
computer. Power supply problem is usually the most difficult to pinpoint.

The type of the error in the dump can be used to minimize the possible
causes, because the error codes are only applicable for specific type of
device, or specific device, or specific type of device driver.

But even after minimizing the possible causes, there will still be multiple
possible causes. So, the only thing left to do is to isolate the problem, by
checking each one. Keeping in mind the devices which are involved to a
device driver.

"pyotr filipivich" <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote

| All I know for certain is that at "random" intervals clicking on
| Eudora's "fetch mail" button causes "blue screen of death" failure.
|

It's always worth doing a search for all or part of the error
code. You may find discussions where others have had
similar problems. I'm not aware of any comprehensive listing,
but the codes themselves do have meaning.

I've never used Eudora. There's no program to convert the
stored messages? There is software to convert MS DBX files.
TBird uses a very simple plain text format. But I don't know
about Eudora. I expect your best bet would be to find a way
to extract the emails in basic .eml text format and then import
them to TBird.

On 8/5/2022 1:35 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>
> All I know for certain is that at "random" intervals clicking on
> Eudora's "fetch mail" button causes "blue screen of death" failure.
>
> It reboots right nicely

So that's the first thing you need to fix.

A BSOD can stop, and show itself on the screen properly.

But the "automatic reboot" can be set, which causes the
BSOD to disappear before you can manually record it.

*******

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/nrZZh1Kc/disable-automatically-restart.gif

Paul

On Thu, 04 Aug 2022 22:35:56 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
> All I know for certain is that at "random" intervals clicking on
>Eudora's "fetch mail" button causes "blue screen of death" failure.
>
> It reboots right nicely

Like Paul says, that might be worth changing so that it doesn't auto
reboot, but it doesn't really matter because the dump files can be
viewed at any time, not just during a crash.

>and then windows notifies me that it is
>recovering, blah blah, "check for solution?" I click yes, and the
>popup disappears.
>
> What do I use to go through the memory dump files, what would I
>be searching for when I'm there, and what does it all mean?

I'd use BlueScreenView from Nirsoft. No installation required, just
download and run it. It'll find your dump files and offer to display
them for you. You'll be looking for the STOP code and perhaps what the
system thinks is the offending driver, although I take that with a grain
of salt.

https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html

pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:4qapeh95hmjtib2ocv0a6uoftbv0b4f133@4ax.com:

<Top-posted for brevity>

I too used Eudora for a looooong time.

When I reinstalled the OS, I was always able to copy-and-paste the Eudora install
folder into the new Windows install and everything would work as expected.

One thing I do, when using 7/10, is that knowing I'll be using a few pieces of legacy
software, I never install them under c:\Program Files (x86)\ (They're never 64 bit
programs.)

I install older apps to c:\Programs\ to clear them of the usual UAC control.

I would try doing that, and see if that helps at all. (...if you haven't already done similar.)

>
> All I know for certain is that at "random" intervals
> clicking on
> Eudora's "fetch mail" button causes "blue screen of death"
> failure.
>
> It reboots right nicely, and then windows notifies me
> that it is
> recovering, blah blah, "check for solution?" I click yes,
> and the popup disappears.
>
> What do I use to go through the memory dump files,
> what would I
> be searching for when I'm there, and what does it all mean?
>
> And - recommendations for replacement of Eudora, and
> migrating the
> associated three decades of mailbox archives?

On 05/08/2022 06:35:56, pyotr filipivich wrote:

> And - recommendations for replacement of Eudora, and migrating the
> associated three decades of mailbox archives?

It's years since I used Eudora, a nice email client and your post
intrigued me enough to have a look beyond the usual Thunderbird and
Outlook clients.

I came across this one called Hexamail.
https://www.hexamail.com/hexamailflow/

I have never heard of it before so I cannot recommend it but I did
notice it is free for home use and it does import Eudora mail, along
with a lot of other features.

--
mick

"Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> on Fri, 5 Aug 2022 09:05:05 -0400
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
>"pyotr filipivich" <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote
>
>| All I know for certain is that at "random" intervals clicking on
>| Eudora's "fetch mail" button causes "blue screen of death" failure.
>|
>
> It's always worth doing a search for all or part of the error
>code. You may find discussions where others have had
>similar problems. I'm not aware of any comprehensive listing,
>but the codes themselves do have meaning.

I don't recall a code on the popup. There may be a code in the
"dump" but first I'll have to be able to search the data dump.
>
> I've never used Eudora. There's no program to convert the
>stored messages? There is software to convert MS DBX files.
>TBird uses a very simple plain text format. But I don't know
>about Eudora. I expect your best bet would be to find a way
>to extract the emails in basic .eml text format and then import
>them to TBird.

Ufda ... I have no idea if there are any conversion programs. I'll
see what I have to do when I get to that point. "I'll burn that
bridge when I get there."
>
--
pyotr filipivich
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Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

DanS <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> on Fri, 05 Aug 2022
17:59:36 +0000 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
>pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote in
>news:4qapeh95hmjtib2ocv0a6uoftbv0b4f133@4ax.com:
>
><Top-posted for brevity>
>
>I too used Eudora for a looooong time.
>
>When I reinstalled the OS, I was always able to copy-and-paste the Eudora install
>folder into the new Windows install and everything would work as expected.
>
>One thing I do, when using 7/10, is that knowing I'll be using a few pieces of legacy
>software, I never install them under c:\Program Files (x86)\ (They're never 64 bit
>programs.)
>
>I install older apps to c:\Programs\ to clear them of the usual UAC control.
>
>I would try doing that, and see if that helps at all. (...if you haven't already done similar.)

Hmmm, now I'll have to look to see where I have it located.

--
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This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

mick <nospam@junk.mail> on Fri, 05 Aug 2022 22:39:26 +0100 typed in
alt.windows7.general the following:
>On 05/08/2022 06:35:56, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>
>> And - recommendations for replacement of Eudora, and migrating the
>> associated three decades of mailbox archives?
>
>It's years since I used Eudora, a nice email client and your post
>intrigued me enough to have a look beyond the usual Thunderbird and
>Outlook clients.
>
>I came across this one called Hexamail.
>https://www.hexamail.com/hexamailflow/
>
>I have never heard of it before so I cannot recommend it but I did
>notice it is free for home use and it does import Eudora mail, along
>with a lot of other features.

I'll have to give it a shot.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

John B. Smith <crasso@verizon.net> on Fri, 05 Aug 2022 07:49:22 -0400
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
>On Thu, 04 Aug 2022 22:35:56 -0700, pyotr filipivich
><phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> All I know for certain is that at "random" intervals clicking on
>>Eudora's "fetch mail" button causes "blue screen of death" failure.
>>
>> It reboots right nicely, and then windows notifies me that it is
>>recovering, blah blah, "check for solution?" I click yes, and the
>>popup disappears.
>>
>> What do I use to go through the memory dump files, what would I
>>be searching for when I'm there, and what does it all mean?
>>
>> And - recommendations for replacement of Eudora, and migrating the
>>associated three decades of mailbox archives?
>
>Are you running Eudora on Win7?

Yep.

>I have it on WinXP. It has been
>troublesome on Win7. I still keep it there for those 'years of
>mailboxes' which I have to copy/paste over in Explorer. (a .bat file
>wouldn't work).

I found robocopy.exe to be helpful for massive moves, as well as
synchronizing files from one computer to another. (Like back and
forth to school computers.)

>Nice to know there's a few Eudora junkies still out
>there. No other email client ever equaled it.

Which is why I've stuck with it all these years.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

"pyotr filipivich" <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote

| I don't recall a code on the popup. There may be a code in the
| "dump" but first I'll have to be able to search the data dump.
| Popup? You said it was a bluescreen. In a bluescreen the
central item is the error code:

x{x,x,x,x} where x is a 32-bit hexadecimal number.

| Ufda ... I have no idea if there are any conversion programs. I'll
| see what I have to do when I get to that point. "I'll burn that
| bridge when I get there."

There are two possibilities. One would be a program to conver
the emails. another would be a method like a script to extract them.
When I searched I immediately found results for converting eudora
email to .eml files.
From there I'm not sure whether TBird can import them directly.
It's set up to import from specific programs. But an eml file can just
bre drag-dropped, so at worst you could make folders and simply
drop your converted emails in the window.
That's assuming TBird. I don't know what else is possible. Aside
from spyware webmail, there are not many options these days.
And TBird is at least serviceable. It's a neglected category because
so many people either use webmail on a laptop or don't use email at all.

On 8/6/2022 8:23 AM, Mayayana wrote:
> "pyotr filipivich" <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote
>
> | I don't recall a code on the popup. There may be a code in the
> | "dump" but first I'll have to be able to search the data dump.
> |
> Popup? You said it was a bluescreen. In a bluescreen the
> central item is the error code:
>
> x{x,x,x,x} where x is a 32-bit hexadecimal number.
>
> | Ufda ... I have no idea if there are any conversion programs. I'll
> | see what I have to do when I get to that point. "I'll burn that
> | bridge when I get there."
>
> There are two possibilities. One would be a program to conver
> the emails. another would be a method like a script to extract them.
> When I searched I immediately found results for converting eudora
> email to .eml files.
> From there I'm not sure whether TBird can import them directly.
> It's set up to import from specific programs. But an eml file can just
> bre drag-dropped, so at worst you could make folders and simply
> drop your converted emails in the window.
> That's assuming TBird. I don't know what else is possible. Aside
> from spyware webmail, there are not many options these days.
> And TBird is at least serviceable. It's a neglected category because
> so many people either use webmail on a laptop or don't use email at all.
>
>

https://www.greennet.org.uk/support/how-migrateimport-eudora-windows-thunderbird

Now, that might be Eudora OSE to Thunderbird they're referring to.

Maybe you could do Eudora to Eudora OSE first (a Eudora to newer Eudora transfer),
then do Eudora OSE to Thunderbird as the second step.

In any case, you'd start with a backup, if you did not want a lot
of cruft and state changes from all the transition attempts.

Once you have a Thunderbird profile folder, you can save that off,
then do a restore as desired, then move forward and fit the Thunderbird profile.

I'd say there are a few ways to do it, and
without resorting to .eml. Thunderbird supports .eml as a
native thing (like pulling and storing the emails as .eml),
but Yousef was the only one who managed to get Thunderbird
into that mode of operation. It's harder to find more
modern versions that will stay in .eml mode for everything.
What happens is, you start Thunderbird, and all of a sudden
it's using Mork again. It has a mind of its own, and it's not
interested in your attempts to change the about:config settings.

I did a couple tests here at the time, when Yousef was dealing
with his .eml setup, and could not get my clean installs to
stay in .eml mode. The issue he had, was possibly related
to Windows Defender scanning the profile folder (full of .eml)
while you're trying to work, with a large loss of performance.

Paul

"Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote

| I'd say there are a few ways to do it, and
| without resorting to .eml. Thunderbird supports .eml as a
| native thing (like pulling and storing the emails as .eml),
| but Yousef was the only one who managed to get Thunderbird
| into that mode of operation. It's harder to find more
| modern versions that will stay in .eml mode for everything.

I'm not sure I follow you. I have TBird 52. It stores email
as one long text string, with markers between each email.
I think the marker is something simple, like "From: ". It can
accept a .EML file dropped into the window. And if I drag it out
to the desktop, it exports as .eml. Presumably any EMLs
dragged in will get stored in the default format.

On 05/08/2022 06:35, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>
> All I know for certain is that at "random" intervals clicking on
> Eudora's "fetch mail" button causes "blue screen of death" failure.
>
> It reboots right nicely, and then windows notifies me that it is
> recovering, blah blah, "check for solution?" I click yes, and the
> popup disappears.
>
> What do I use to go through the memory dump files, what would I
> be searching for when I'm there, and what does it all mean?
>
> And - recommendations for replacement of Eudora, and migrating the
> associated three decades of mailbox archives?

From the replies you've received it's clear that Eudora is an old
program, designed to run on an earlier OS - maybe Windows XP?

If you're running it on a more recent OS (Win 7/8/10/11) have you tried
running it in compatibility mode for an older OS? That can often fix
incompatibility problems. Don't give up on Eudora without trying that.
--
Cheers,
Roger

On 8/6/2022 12:47 PM, Mayayana wrote:
> "Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
>
> | I'd say there are a few ways to do it, and
> | without resorting to .eml. Thunderbird supports .eml as a
> | native thing (like pulling and storing the emails as .eml),
> | but Yousef was the only one who managed to get Thunderbird
> | into that mode of operation. It's harder to find more
> | modern versions that will stay in .eml mode for everything.
>
> I'm not sure I follow you. I have TBird 52. It stores email
> as one long text string, with markers between each email.
> I think the marker is something simple, like "From: ". It can
> accept a .EML file dropped into the window. And if I drag it out
> to the desktop, it exports as .eml. Presumably any EMLs
> dragged in will get stored in the default format.
>

There was a claim that Thunderbird had a second mode
of storing incoming mail. However, I couldn't get this to work
properly on a clean install. It kept flipping to Berkeley on its own.

************************ copy/paste Mon, 27 Apr 2020 ************************

mail.server.server1.storeContractID = @mozilla.org/msgstore/maildirstore;1

mail.server.server4.storeContractID = @mozilla.org/msgstore/berkeleystore;1

Berkeleystore, as far as I know, is the "file per box" (Sent) method.

Maildirstore, is a file per message method, like an EML at a guess.
You can see this better than I can, as mine are all
going to be Berkeleystore.

Picture of Version 45 or so. Option not available/implemented
before Version 38. [You can see it flipped and grayed out the option
so you can't flip it back.]

https://i.postimg.cc/Jh7qmhzN/TBird-stores-option.gif

************************ copy/paste Mon, 27 Apr 2020 ************************

Paul

"Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote

| Picture of Version 45 or so. Option not available/implemented
| before Version 38. [You can see it flipped and grayed out the option
| so you can't flip it back.]
| | https://i.postimg.cc/Jh7qmhzN/TBird-stores-option.gif

I never noticed that before. I have file per folder, which
seems fine. It's very simple to convert that to EML files if
I want to. And in the GUI it still imports/exports EML.

"Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> on Sat, 6 Aug 2022 08:23:30 -0400
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
>"pyotr filipivich" <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote
>
>| I don't recall a code on the popup. There may be a code in the
>| "dump" but first I'll have to be able to search the data dump.
>|
> Popup?

Okay, the pop-up shows up after the reboot.
--
pyotr filipivich
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Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
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Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> on Sat, 6 Aug 2022 21:22:11
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
>On 05/08/2022 06:35, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>
>> All I know for certain is that at "random" intervals clicking on
>> Eudora's "fetch mail" button causes "blue screen of death" failure.
>>
>> It reboots right nicely, and then windows notifies me that it is
>> recovering, blah blah, "check for solution?" I click yes, and the
>> popup disappears.
>>
>> What do I use to go through the memory dump files, what would I
>> be searching for when I'm there, and what does it all mean?
>>
>> And - recommendations for replacement of Eudora, and migrating the
>> associated three decades of mailbox archives?
>
>
> From the replies you've received it's clear that Eudora is an old
>program, designed to run on an earlier OS - maybe Windows XP?
>
>If you're running it on a more recent OS (Win 7/8/10/11) have you tried
>running it in compatibility mode for an older OS? That can often fix
>incompatibility problems. Don't give up on Eudora without trying that.

I don't want to give up on it. I'm just annoyed by this "sudden"
spate of BSOD which occurs after I click on "get mail".
--
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Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

On 8/6/2022 9:46 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> on Sat, 6 Aug 2022 08:23:30 -0400
> typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
>> "pyotr filipivich" <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote
>>
>> | I don't recall a code on the popup. There may be a code in the
>> | "dump" but first I'll have to be able to search the data dump.
>> |
>> Popup?
>
> Okay, the pop-up shows up after the reboot.
>

There are a ton of pages on finding crash dumps, finding
Event Viewer entries, and so on. Did you get a MEMORY.DMP ?
Get to work, dammit :-)

It could be bad RAM.

It could be an "IRQL less or equals".

There are many possibilities, and your mission
is to gather the evidence.

If it's a BSOD, stopping the automatic reboot is for the
satisfaction of making the message stand still on the
screen.

Paul

On 07/08/2022 02:46, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> on Sat, 6 Aug 2022 21:22:11
> +0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
>> On 05/08/2022 06:35, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>>
>>> All I know for certain is that at "random" intervals clicking on
>>> Eudora's "fetch mail" button causes "blue screen of death" failure.
>>>
>>> It reboots right nicely, and then windows notifies me that it is
>>> recovering, blah blah, "check for solution?" I click yes, and the
>>> popup disappears.
>>>
>>> What do I use to go through the memory dump files, what would I
>>> be searching for when I'm there, and what does it all mean?
>>>
>>> And - recommendations for replacement of Eudora, and migrating the
>>> associated three decades of mailbox archives?
>>
>>
>> From the replies you've received it's clear that Eudora is an old
>> program, designed to run on an earlier OS - maybe Windows XP?
>>
>> If you're running it on a more recent OS (Win 7/8/10/11) have you tried
>> running it in compatibility mode for an older OS? That can often fix
>> incompatibility problems. Don't give up on Eudora without trying that.
>
> I don't want to give up on it. I'm just annoyed by this "sudden"
> spate of BSOD which occurs after I click on "get mail".

Indeed. But *have* you tried compatibility mode?

--
Cheers,
Roger

On 8/7/2022 12:09 AM, Paul wrote:
> On 8/6/2022 9:46 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>> "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> on Sat, 6 Aug 2022 08:23:30 -0400
>> typed in alt.windows7.general  the following:
>>> "pyotr filipivich" <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote
>>>
>>> | I don't recall a code on the popup.  There may be a code in the
>>> | "dump" but first I'll have to be able to search the data dump.
>>> |
>>>    Popup?
>>
>>     Okay, the pop-up shows up after the reboot.
>>

You can point a camcorder or a digital point and shoot camera with
video capability, at a (temporary) BSOD screen. The BSOD will stay
on the screen for several frame times, and even with a camcorder,
you might capture the frame with the BSOD on it, before the
automatic reboot occurs.

Paul

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> on Sun, 7 Aug 2022 20:40:43 -0400 typed
in alt.windows7.general the following:
>On 8/7/2022 12:09 AM, Paul wrote:
>> On 8/6/2022 9:46 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>> "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> on Sat, 6 Aug 2022 08:23:30 -0400
>>> typed in alt.windows7.general  the following:
>>>> "pyotr filipivich" <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>> | I don't recall a code on the popup.  There may be a code in the
>>>> | "dump" but first I'll have to be able to search the data dump.
>>>> |
>>>>    Popup?
>>>
>>>     Okay, the pop-up shows up after the reboot.
>>>
>
>You can point a camcorder or a digital point and shoot camera with
>video capability, at a (temporary) BSOD screen. The BSOD will stay
>on the screen for several frame times, and even with a camcorder,
>you might capture the frame with the BSOD on it, before the
>automatic reboot occurs.

Now all I have to do is have a camera ready to go when I'm reading
email.
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Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> on Sun, 7 Aug 2022 16:47:20
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
>On 07/08/2022 02:46, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>> Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> on Sat, 6 Aug 2022 21:22:11
>> +0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
>>> On 05/08/2022 06:35, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All I know for certain is that at "random" intervals clicking on
>>>> Eudora's "fetch mail" button causes "blue screen of death" failure.
>>>>
>>>> It reboots right nicely, and then windows notifies me that it is
>>>> recovering, blah blah, "check for solution?" I click yes, and the
>>>> popup disappears.
>>>>
>>>> What do I use to go through the memory dump files, what would I
>>>> be searching for when I'm there, and what does it all mean?
>>>>
>>>> And - recommendations for replacement of Eudora, and migrating the
>>>> associated three decades of mailbox archives?
>>>
>>>
>>> From the replies you've received it's clear that Eudora is an old
>>> program, designed to run on an earlier OS - maybe Windows XP?
>>>
>>> If you're running it on a more recent OS (Win 7/8/10/11) have you tried
>>> running it in compatibility mode for an older OS? That can often fix
>>> incompatibility problems. Don't give up on Eudora without trying that.
>>
>> I don't want to give up on it. I'm just annoyed by this "sudden"
>> spate of BSOD which occurs after I click on "get mail".
>
>
>Indeed. But *have* you tried compatibility mode?

It's on the list ...
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