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* IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!Christian Holzapfel
+* Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!Christian Holzapfel
|+- Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!IBMMuseum
|`- Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!Pertti Helander
+* Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 availableWolfgang Gehl
|+* Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!IBMMuseum
||`- Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!Ryan Alswede
|+* Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!Ryan Alswede
||`- Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 availableKevin Bowling
|+* Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 availableWolfgang Gehl
||+- Is it TOO big?Louis Ohland
||+- Keep a 'knockin, but you can't come in...Louis Ohland
||`* Vive le difference!Louis Ohland
|| `- Re: Vive le difference!Christian Holzapfel
|`* Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!Wolfgang Gehl
| `* Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!Christian Holzapfel
|  `* Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!Wolfgang Gehl
|   `- Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!holzachr
`* Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!lharr...@gmail.com
 `* Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!schimmi
  `* Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!Christian Holzapfel
   `* Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!lharr...@gmail.com
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    |`* FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2Louis Ohland
    | `* Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2lharr...@gmail.com
    |  `* Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2Christian Holzapfel
    |   +- Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2Christian Holzapfel
    |   `* Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2Christian Holzapfel
    |    `* Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2Christian Holzapfel
    |     `* Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2Christian Holzapfel
    |      +- Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2Ryan Alswede
    |      +- Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2Louis Ohland
    |      +* Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2Kevin Bowling
    |      |+* Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2lharr...@gmail.com
    |      ||`- Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2lharr...@gmail.com
    |      |`* BIU ?Louis Ohland
    |      | `- Correlation does not equal causation, But...Louis Ohland
    |      `* Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2Christian Holzapfel
    |       +* Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2Ryan Alswede
    |       |`* Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2Louis Ohland
    |       | `* Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2Ryan Alswede
    |       |  `- DMALouis Ohland
    |       `* Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2Wolfgang Gehl
    |        `* Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available nChristian Holzapfel
    |         +* IMI ?Louis Ohland
    |         |`* Re: IMI ?Louis Ohland
    |         | `* Re: IMI ?Louis Ohland
    |         |  `* SC464 datasheet '97Louis Ohland
    |         |   `* IMISC4xx datasheet [SC401-SC425 :( ]Louis Ohland
    |         |    `* IMI website www.imicorp.comLouis Ohland
    |         |     `* FTP ! Gaaah !Louis Ohland
    |         |      `* SC471 Short Form Data SheetLouis Ohland
    |         |       `* Re: SC471 Short Form Data SheetJWR
    |         |        `- Re: SC471 Short Form Data SheetChristian Holzapfel
    |         `- Re: FDX? Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2Louis Ohland
    `* Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!Christian Holzapfel
     `- Re: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 availableLouis Ohland

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Subject: IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K) drivers for PS/2 available now!
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 by: Christian Holzapfel - Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:38 UTC

Hear ye, Hear ye!
There's a new dream team on the block.
That may be you, your favorite PS/2 and your IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K)!
After weeks and months of reverse and forward engineering, we now have drivers for this very late manufactured, 32-bit Micro Channel 100 Mbps capable Ethernet Adapter type 9-K, code name "San Remo", that IBM released only for the RS/6000 series as one of the very last MCA cards.
For 30 years there were no drivers outside of AIX, IBM's proprietary Unix operating system.
Today you may start running it in Windows 95, probably also 98, and Linux 2..2!
Get your copy here:
http://www.holzapfel.biz/8F62/sanremo-win9x.zip
https://github.com/holzachr/sanremo-linux
Please note that those are considered beta drivers, and may not be perfect yet.
They were tested on Windows 95 B OSR2 and Debian 2.2 on a souped-up PC 750. I would love to hear your personal feedback on a true Micro Channel system..
This was a joint effort of Ryan Alswede and me.
Enjoy! 😀

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And as our friend Shane pointed out:

FYI, there’s a seller on eBay that has >200 of these in “new, bulk” condition for ~$60 shipped and shipping costs drop if you buy multiple cards.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/193693679438

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> ...and shipping costs drop if you buy multiple cards.

I'm prompting for how much shipping "and handling" costs can be reduced for multiple adapters - Us Yanks could probably have four put in a USPS box shipped for far less than $140.

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 by: Wolfgang Gehl - Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:00 UTC

Am 21.11.23 um 17:38 schrieb Christian Holzapfel:
> Hear ye, Hear ye!
> There's a new dream team on the block.
> That may be you, your favorite PS/2 and your IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K)!
> After weeks and months of reverse and forward engineering, we now have drivers for this very late manufactured, 32-bit Micro Channel 100 Mbps capable Ethernet Adapter type 9-K, code name "San Remo", that IBM released only for the RS/6000 series as one of the very last MCA cards.
> For 30 years there were no drivers outside of AIX, IBM's proprietary Unix operating system.
> Today you may start running it in Windows 95, probably also 98, and Linux 2.2!
> Get your copy here:
> http://www.holzapfel.biz/8F62/sanremo-win9x.zip
> https://github.com/holzachr/sanremo-linux
> Please note that those are considered beta drivers, and may not be perfect yet.
> They were tested on Windows 95 B OSR2 and Debian 2.2 on a souped-up PC 750. I would love to hear your personal feedback on a true Micro Channel system.
> This was a joint effort of Ryan Alswede and me.
> Enjoy! 😀

Cool stuff, will definitely try it out on a 9595 or server 520 and
report back. If only I had a little more time to play around with MCA ...

The problem with using a 9-K in an Intel system is the processor load.
On a 7030-3BT I have about 4.5MB throughput with a comparatively
sluggish AIXwindows. A 9595 will not achieve this. As soon as a GUI
comes into play, the 90MHz Pentium will go to its knees.

In any case, thank you for your work, which I greatly appreciate!

Wolfgang

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> I'm prompting for how much shipping "and handling" costs can be reduced for multiple adapters...

New link with "Make an offer": https://www.ebay.com/itm/196091827841

The seller seems to be willing to sell multiple adapters (from two up) for $20 each, and is negotiable on shipping using UPS (U.S.-based buyer) for far less costs than on the auction listing...

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 by: Ryan Alswede - Wed, 22 Nov 2023 01:33 UTC

.. A 9595 will not achieve this. As soon as a GUI
> comes into play, the 90MHz Pentium will go to its knees.
Why? It's a DMA enabled card.

Ryan

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Windows NT driver is in the finishing stages, will be available soon.

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 by: Kevin Bowling - Wed, 22 Nov 2023 02:13 UTC

On 11/21/23 18:33, Ryan Alswede wrote:
> . A 9595 will not achieve this. As soon as a GUI
>> comes into play, the 90MHz Pentium will go to its knees.
> Why? It's a DMA enabled card.
>
> Ryan

Interrupt rate - not sure if the card has batching or moderation
available (this would be on the PCI side) - that would help a lot.

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 by: lharr...@gmail.com - Sun, 26 Nov 2023 22:50 UTC

On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 11:38:07 AM UTC-5, Christian Holzapfel wrote:
> Hear ye, Hear ye!
> There's a new dream team on the block.
> That may be you, your favorite PS/2 and your IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K)!
> After weeks and months of reverse and forward engineering, we now have drivers for this very late manufactured, 32-bit Micro Channel 100 Mbps capable Ethernet Adapter type 9-K, code name "San Remo", that IBM released only for the RS/6000 series as one of the very last MCA cards.
> For 30 years there were no drivers outside of AIX, IBM's proprietary Unix operating system.
> Today you may start running it in Windows 95, probably also 98, and Linux 2.2!
> Get your copy here:
> http://www.holzapfel.biz/8F62/sanremo-win9x.zip
> https://github.com/holzachr/sanremo-linux
> Please note that those are considered beta drivers, and may not be perfect yet.
> They were tested on Windows 95 B OSR2 and Debian 2.2 on a souped-up PC 750. I would love to hear your personal feedback on a true Micro Channel system.
> This was a joint effort of Ryan Alswede and me.
> Enjoy! 😀

I bought one and will give it a try on a Reply TurboProcessor. Nice work!

-Lionel

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lharr...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 26. November 2023 um 23:50:43 UTC+1:
> On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 11:38:07 AM UTC-5, Christian Holzapfel wrote:
> > Hear ye, Hear ye!
> > There's a new dream team on the block.
> > That may be you, your favorite PS/2 and your IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet Adapter (9-K)!
> > After weeks and months of reverse and forward engineering, we now have drivers for this very late manufactured, 32-bit Micro Channel 100 Mbps capable Ethernet Adapter type 9-K, code name "San Remo", that IBM released only for the RS/6000 series as one of the very last MCA cards.
> > For 30 years there were no drivers outside of AIX, IBM's proprietary Unix operating system.
> > Today you may start running it in Windows 95, probably also 98, and Linux 2.2!
> > Get your copy here:
> > http://www.holzapfel.biz/8F62/sanremo-win9x.zip
> > https://github.com/holzachr/sanremo-linux
> > Please note that those are considered beta drivers, and may not be perfect yet.
> > They were tested on Windows 95 B OSR2 and Debian 2.2 on a souped-up PC 750. I would love to hear your personal feedback on a true Micro Channel system.
> > This was a joint effort of Ryan Alswede and me.
> > Enjoy! 😀
> I bought one and will give it a try on a Reply TurboProcessor. Nice work!
>
> -Lionel
Nice, thank you, Christian!

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I hope it works for all of you without any headaches.
If you would like to benchmark it (honestly, I would like you to benchmark it!), I've created a zip file containing matching versions of the netio benchmark for Win32, Linux, OS/2 and AIX that should enable most of us testing the adapters in our favorite environments:

http://www.holzapfel.biz/8F62/netio132-ibm.zip

Just start one executable on a connected powerful computer with the "-s" parameter to start a server, then run the executable on the Micro Channel machine using the "-t <server-ip>" command line argument.

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 by: lharr...@gmail.com - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 23:13 UTC

On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 2:33:49 PM UTC-5, Christian Holzapfel wrote:
> I hope it works for all of you without any headaches.
> If you would like to benchmark it (honestly, I would like you to benchmark it!), I've created a zip file containing matching versions of the netio benchmark for Win32, Linux, OS/2 and AIX that should enable most of us testing the adapters in our favorite environments:
>
> http://www.holzapfel.biz/8F62/netio132-ibm.zip
>
> Just start one executable on a connected powerful computer with the "-s" parameter to start a server, then run the executable on the Micro Channel machine using the "-t <server-ip>" command line argument.

What are the chances of a DOS driver?

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On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 6:13:13 PM UTC-5, lharr...@gmail..com wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 2:33:49 PM UTC-5, Christian Holzapfel wrote:
> > I hope it works for all of you without any headaches.
> > If you would like to benchmark it (honestly, I would like you to benchmark it!), I've created a zip file containing matching versions of the netio benchmark for Win32, Linux, OS/2 and AIX that should enable most of us testing the adapters in our favorite environments:
> >
> > http://www.holzapfel.biz/8F62/netio132-ibm.zip
> >
> > Just start one executable on a connected powerful computer with the "-s" parameter to start a server, then run the executable on the Micro Channel machine using the "-t <server-ip>" command line argument.
> What are the chances of a DOS driver?

Received the card today, pretty good! Results using provided netio132 below:

System:
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Reply TurboProcessor 60/65/80
Intel 83Mhz Pentium OverDrive
64MB RAM + 128KB L2 Cache (IDT7MB6098/A/SA33K)
BusLogic BT-646 / SDC3211F
> ZuluSCSI RP2040
> Nakamichi MJ-5.16
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ChipChat 16

3C529-TP Etherlink III
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TCP server listening.
TCP connection established ...
Receiving from client, packet size 1k ... 928.40 KByte/s
Sending to client, packet size 1k ... 804.07 KByte/s
Receiving from client, packet size 2k ... 942.55 KByte/s
Sending to client, packet size 2k ... 832.55 KByte/s
Receiving from client, packet size 4k ... 873.69 KByte/s
Sending to client, packet size 4k ... 832.20 KByte/s
Receiving from client, packet size 8k ... 814.47 KByte/s
Sending to client, packet size 8k ... 844.32 KByte/s
Receiving from client, packet size 16k ... 832.46 KByte/s
Sending to client, packet size 16k ... 840.34 KByte/s
Receiving from client, packet size 32k ... 830.54 KByte/s
Sending to client, packet size 32k ... 787.97 KByte/s
Done.

10/100 Mbps Ethernet (9-K)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TCP server listening.
TCP connection established ...
Receiving from client, packet size 1k ... 1149.31 KByte/s
Sending to client, packet size 1k ... 1410.54 KByte/s
Receiving from client, packet size 2k ... 1381.70 KByte/s
Sending to client, packet size 2k ... 1651.40 KByte/s
Receiving from client, packet size 4k ... 1904.52 KByte/s
Sending to client, packet size 4k ... 1810.20 KByte/s
Receiving from client, packet size 8k ... 1971.34 KByte/s
Sending to client, packet size 8k ... 1892.09 KByte/s
Receiving from client, packet size 16k ... 2193.67 KByte/s
Sending to client, packet size 16k ... 1944.85 KByte/s
Receiving from client, packet size 32k ... 2267.23 KByte/s
Sending to client, packet size 32k ... 1952.12 KByte/s
Done.

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 by: Louis Ohland - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 02:05 UTC

Gods below, that looks like the 9-K is doing FDX with the 10Mb section.

lharr...@gmail.com wrote:

> 3C529-TP Etherlink III
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> TCP server listening.
> TCP connection established ...
> Receiving from client, packet size 1k ... 928.40 KByte/s
> Sending to client, packet size 1k ... 804.07 KByte/s
> Receiving from client, packet size 2k ... 942.55 KByte/s
> Sending to client, packet size 2k ... 832.55 KByte/s
> Receiving from client, packet size 4k ... 873.69 KByte/s
> Sending to client, packet size 4k ... 832.20 KByte/s
> Receiving from client, packet size 8k ... 814.47 KByte/s
> Sending to client, packet size 8k ... 844.32 KByte/s
> Receiving from client, packet size 16k ... 832.46 KByte/s
> Sending to client, packet size 16k ... 840.34 KByte/s
> Receiving from client, packet size 32k ... 830.54 KByte/s
> Sending to client, packet size 32k ... 787.97 KByte/s
> Done.
>
> 10/100 Mbps Ethernet (9-K)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> TCP server listening.
> TCP connection established ...
> Receiving from client, packet size 1k ... 1149.31 KByte/s
> Sending to client, packet size 1k ... 1410.54 KByte/s
> Receiving from client, packet size 2k ... 1381.70 KByte/s
> Sending to client, packet size 2k ... 1651.40 KByte/s
> Receiving from client, packet size 4k ... 1904.52 KByte/s
> Sending to client, packet size 4k ... 1810.20 KByte/s
> Receiving from client, packet size 8k ... 1971.34 KByte/s
> Sending to client, packet size 8k ... 1892.09 KByte/s
> Receiving from client, packet size 16k ... 2193.67 KByte/s
> Sending to client, packet size 16k ... 1944.85 KByte/s
> Receiving from client, packet size 32k ... 2267.23 KByte/s
> Sending to client, packet size 32k ... 1952.12 KByte/s
> Done.
>

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On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 9:05:22 PM UTC-5, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Gods below, that looks like the 9-K is doing FDX with the 10Mb section.
> lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > 3C529-TP Etherlink III
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > TCP server listening.
> > TCP connection established ...
> > Receiving from client, packet size 1k ... 928.40 KByte/s
> > Sending to client, packet size 1k ... 804.07 KByte/s
> > Receiving from client, packet size 2k ... 942.55 KByte/s
> > Sending to client, packet size 2k ... 832.55 KByte/s
> > Receiving from client, packet size 4k ... 873.69 KByte/s
> > Sending to client, packet size 4k ... 832.20 KByte/s
> > Receiving from client, packet size 8k ... 814.47 KByte/s
> > Sending to client, packet size 8k ... 844.32 KByte/s
> > Receiving from client, packet size 16k ... 832.46 KByte/s
> > Sending to client, packet size 16k ... 840.34 KByte/s
> > Receiving from client, packet size 32k ... 830.54 KByte/s
> > Sending to client, packet size 32k ... 787.97 KByte/s
> > Done.
> >
> > 10/100 Mbps Ethernet (9-K)
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > TCP server listening.
> > TCP connection established ...
> > Receiving from client, packet size 1k ... 1149.31 KByte/s
> > Sending to client, packet size 1k ... 1410.54 KByte/s
> > Receiving from client, packet size 2k ... 1381.70 KByte/s
> > Sending to client, packet size 2k ... 1651.40 KByte/s
> > Receiving from client, packet size 4k ... 1904.52 KByte/s
> > Sending to client, packet size 4k ... 1810.20 KByte/s
> > Receiving from client, packet size 8k ... 1971.34 KByte/s
> > Sending to client, packet size 8k ... 1892.09 KByte/s
> > Receiving from client, packet size 16k ... 2193.67 KByte/s
> > Sending to client, packet size 16k ... 1944.85 KByte/s
> > Receiving from client, packet size 32k ... 2267.23 KByte/s
> > Sending to client, packet size 32k ... 1952.12 KByte/s
> > Done.
> >

So my switch shows 100MB FDX, I did the test again with sysmon showing CPU usage in Windows 95 and it's 100% CPU with the 9-K. I am pretty sure I'm just maxing the CPU at this point in terms of top end speeds.

For some reason the Reply TurboProcessor is a slow board despite the Syncrostream controller. A Pentium OverDrive at 83Mhz on a TurboProcessor 60/80 is about 20% slower than most online benchmarks of the same chip or any rando 486 board and even my own IBM PS/Valuepoint 433SX/X (Type 6382), http://ps-2.kev009.com/pcpartnerinfo/ctstips/3aa2.htm, which just stomps the shit out of the Reply TurboProcessor in terms of performance. I've never used the benchmark tool Chirstian provided, maybe this weekend I'll compare it against the Valuepoint which has a 100mb 3com ISA card.

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> So my switch shows 100MB FDX, I did the test again with sysmon showing CPU usage in Windows 95 and it's 100% CPU with the 9-K. I am pretty sure I'm just maxing the CPU at this point in terms of top end speeds.

Any chance you measured the CPU usage when benchmarking the 3com card?

Our glorious tool https://ardent-tool.com/NIC/Ethernet_Bench.html#Results indicates 28.1 % load with the 3C529 on a 486SX-33, doing around 950 KB/s (under Linux!).

Could be something is not right yet with the interrupt handling...

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> Could be something is not right yet with the interrupt handling...

Another conclusion from Alfred Arnold, https://ardent-tool.com/NIC/Ethernet_Bench.html#Results :

"Another result is that the busmastering 3C527 produces significantly more load than other, non-busmastering boards! [..] Another reason might be that the driver does not exploit the board's bus mastering capabilities, i.e. the received frames are written to buffers kept by the driver, and the driver then copies the data into the operating system's buffers. This might sound awkward (and is is in fact, since it voids the advantages of busmaster operation), but it is sometimes unavoidable, either due to the way the kernel interface works or buffer alignment constraints... this shouldn't cover the fact that the 3C527 delivers good performance and deserves the designation 'High Performance Adapter'."

Yes, I can say, from the original driver design for the busmastering PCnet (PCI) card that I adapted for our 9-K, both the Windows and Linux drivers do work this way: Allocating buffers within the driver that the busmastering 9-K reads from and writes to (using burst mode DMA!), but in the end, it's again the CPU that has to copy the data from the driver's receive buffer into the operating system's network stack.
I wonder if this works the same under the 9-K's original AIX driver, or if they have direct DMA access to the network subsystem.

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I have silently updated the Win9x driver at

http://www.holzapfel.biz/8F62/sanremo-win9x.zip

No big deal, I corrected the adapter's name and added a menu in Adapter Settings that lets you choose the DMA burst mode between "Rx+Tx" (default) and "Tx only".
Just something for you to try out, performance related.
Note that in Network Settings, the driver needs to be removed, then the driver re-installed, settings changed and then rebootet to apply.

BTW, the card does not work at all without burst mode for Rx. Why this is I can't say, probably because the ASIC does not support a non-bursting mode in that direction at all.

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I also revised and debugged the IRQ handling code, it does not seem to me like the card is spamming more interrupts than needed.
No erroneous data IRQs, no error IRQs. Only regular Rx and Tx.
CPU load is still at 100 % on my test system.
I use TuneUp 97 which has a nice system load view built in.

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 by: Christian Holzapfel - Fri, 1 Dec 2023 11:07 UTC

Here a few benchmarks from my systems:

Model 6886 (PC 750)
AMD K6-III @ 400 MHz
192 MB RAM
Windows 95
Burst Mode Rx+Tx
Netio 1.32

Packet size 1k bytes: 4751.55 KByte/s Tx, 4547.97 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 2k bytes: 6082.19 KByte/s Tx, 4748.86 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 4k bytes: 6772.06 KByte/s Tx, 5595.94 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 8k bytes: 7378.91 KByte/s Tx, 5575.82 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 16k bytes: 7996.92 KByte/s Tx, 6135.80 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 32k bytes: 8226.20 KByte/s Tx, 6186.44 KByte/s Rx.

Model 9576i (Lacuna)
AMD X5 @ 133 MHz
64 MB RAM
No L2 cache :-(
Windows 95
Burst Mode Rx+Tx
Netio 1.32

Packet size 1k bytes: 1193.33 KByte/s Tx, 936.21 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 2k bytes: 1290.28 KByte/s Tx, 1114.61 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 4k bytes: 1389.92 KByte/s Tx, 1575.54 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 8k bytes: 1741.82 KByte/s Tx, 1541.64 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 16k bytes: 1969.17 KByte/s Tx, 1173.42 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 32k bytes: 1934.02 KByte/s Tx, 1874.79 KByte/s Rx.

Model 7013-59H (RS/6000)
POWER2 @ 67 MHz
1,25 GB RAM
1 MB L2 cache
AIX 4.3.3 (IBM's driver)
Netio 1.32

Packet size 1k bytes: 5113.53 KByte/s Tx, 6395.88 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 2k bytes: 6059.71 KByte/s Tx, 7318.23 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 4k bytes: 7213.85 KByte/s Tx, 7667.44 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 8k bytes: 7877.74 KByte/s Tx, 8501.13 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 16k bytes: 8819.90 KByte/s Tx, 8811.09 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 32k bytes: 8627.93 KByte/s Tx, 9067.06 KByte/s Rx.

Model 7006-42T (RS/6000)
PowerPC @ 120 MHz
192 MB RAM
0.5 MB L2 cache
AIX 4.3.3 (IBM's driver)
Netio 1.32

Packet size 1k bytes: 2558.84 KByte/s Tx, 619.03 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 2k bytes: 2754.74 KByte/s Tx, 1297.03 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 4k bytes: 3340.64 KByte/s Tx, 3816.94 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 8k bytes: 4013.11 KByte/s Tx, 3763.10 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 16k bytes: 4551.11 KByte/s Tx, 3802.62 KByte/s Rx.
Packet size 32k bytes: 4562.02 KByte/s Tx, 4275.55 KByte/s Rx.

What's interesting is the mixed performance on the RS/6000 systems. The later mid-range workstation machine with a faster CPU performs worse than the early 1992 high-performance server class system. I assume, the 7013 was built specifically for high-throughput and low-latency applications.

That the Lacuna and Reply perform so low is disappointing, but maybe there's a reason why IBM did not sell this adapter to PS/2 users - or maybe we will find a magic switch to make the card operate faster.

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>> I assume, the 7013 was built specifically for high-throughput and low-latency applications.
I would dive into this machine and see what the ASIC values are with your break out board. Especially the pci command register.

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 by: Louis Ohland - Fri, 1 Dec 2023 21:55 UTC

The Lacuna has a BIU, not a SSC.

Yeah, the Reply may have an actual SSC, but how much did IBM "tweak"
it?Sordid reminds me of the T/R chipsets that IBM fabbed for third party
manufacturers.

How about a little M or Type 4 hot n heavy action?

Christian Holzapfel wrote:
> Model 9576i (Lacuna)
> AMD X5 @ 133 MHz
> 64 MB RAM
> No L2 cache:-(
> Windows 95
> Burst Mode Rx+Tx
> Netio 1.32
>
> Packet size 1k bytes: 1193.33 KByte/s Tx, 936.21 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 2k bytes: 1290.28 KByte/s Tx, 1114.61 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 4k bytes: 1389.92 KByte/s Tx, 1575.54 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 8k bytes: 1741.82 KByte/s Tx, 1541.64 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 16k bytes: 1969.17 KByte/s Tx, 1173.42 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 32k bytes: 1934.02 KByte/s Tx, 1874.79 KByte/s Rx.

> That the Lacuna and Reply perform so low is disappointing, but maybe there's a reason why IBM did not sell this adapter to PS/2 users - or maybe we will find a magic switch to make the card operate faster.

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 by: Kevin Bowling - Fri, 1 Dec 2023 21:55 UTC

On 12/1/23 04:07, Christian Holzapfel wrote:
> Here a few benchmarks from my systems:
>
> Model 6886 (PC 750)
> AMD K6-III @ 400 MHz
> 192 MB RAM
> Windows 95
> Burst Mode Rx+Tx
> Netio 1.32
>
> Packet size 1k bytes: 4751.55 KByte/s Tx, 4547.97 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 2k bytes: 6082.19 KByte/s Tx, 4748.86 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 4k bytes: 6772.06 KByte/s Tx, 5595.94 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 8k bytes: 7378.91 KByte/s Tx, 5575.82 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 16k bytes: 7996.92 KByte/s Tx, 6135.80 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 32k bytes: 8226.20 KByte/s Tx, 6186.44 KByte/s Rx.
>
>
>
> Model 9576i (Lacuna)
> AMD X5 @ 133 MHz
> 64 MB RAM
> No L2 cache :-(
> Windows 95
> Burst Mode Rx+Tx
> Netio 1.32
>
> Packet size 1k bytes: 1193.33 KByte/s Tx, 936.21 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 2k bytes: 1290.28 KByte/s Tx, 1114.61 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 4k bytes: 1389.92 KByte/s Tx, 1575.54 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 8k bytes: 1741.82 KByte/s Tx, 1541.64 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 16k bytes: 1969.17 KByte/s Tx, 1173.42 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 32k bytes: 1934.02 KByte/s Tx, 1874.79 KByte/s Rx.
>
>
>
> Model 7013-59H (RS/6000)
> POWER2 @ 67 MHz
> 1,25 GB RAM
> 1 MB L2 cache
> AIX 4.3.3 (IBM's driver)
> Netio 1.32
>
> Packet size 1k bytes: 5113.53 KByte/s Tx, 6395.88 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 2k bytes: 6059.71 KByte/s Tx, 7318.23 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 4k bytes: 7213.85 KByte/s Tx, 7667.44 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 8k bytes: 7877.74 KByte/s Tx, 8501.13 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 16k bytes: 8819.90 KByte/s Tx, 8811.09 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 32k bytes: 8627.93 KByte/s Tx, 9067.06 KByte/s Rx.
>
>
>
> Model 7006-42T (RS/6000)
> PowerPC @ 120 MHz
> 192 MB RAM
> 0.5 MB L2 cache
> AIX 4.3.3 (IBM's driver)
> Netio 1.32
>
> Packet size 1k bytes: 2558.84 KByte/s Tx, 619.03 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 2k bytes: 2754.74 KByte/s Tx, 1297.03 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 4k bytes: 3340.64 KByte/s Tx, 3816.94 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 8k bytes: 4013.11 KByte/s Tx, 3763.10 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 16k bytes: 4551.11 KByte/s Tx, 3802.62 KByte/s Rx.
> Packet size 32k bytes: 4562.02 KByte/s Tx, 4275.55 KByte/s Rx.
>
>
> What's interesting is the mixed performance on the RS/6000 systems. The later mid-range workstation machine with a faster CPU performs worse than the early 1992 high-performance server class system. I assume, the 7013 was built specifically for high-throughput and low-latency applications.
>

In particular, the memory bandwidth is insane on the POWER2 systems.
The MHz is also misleading, it is a superscalar processor with 2 integer
units and has double the cache (10ns I believe). It would be
interesting to compare the context switch time of the PowerPC.

> That the Lacuna and Reply perform so low is disappointing, but maybe there's a reason why IBM did not sell this adapter to PS/2 users - or maybe we will find a magic switch to make the card operate faster.

I suspect you may be able to profit from games with the tx and rx
interrupt masks.. the Linux pcnet32 driver looks like it has a (limited)
poll mode which would be preferable to dealing with an interrupt for
every packet on this old hw.

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On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 4:55:29 PM UTC-5, Kevin Bowling wrote:
> On 12/1/23 04:07, Christian Holzapfel wrote:
> > Here a few benchmarks from my systems:
> >
> > Model 6886 (PC 750)
> > AMD K6-III @ 400 MHz
> > 192 MB RAM
> > Windows 95
> > Burst Mode Rx+Tx
> > Netio 1.32
> >
> > Packet size 1k bytes: 4751.55 KByte/s Tx, 4547.97 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 2k bytes: 6082.19 KByte/s Tx, 4748.86 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 4k bytes: 6772.06 KByte/s Tx, 5595.94 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 8k bytes: 7378.91 KByte/s Tx, 5575.82 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 16k bytes: 7996.92 KByte/s Tx, 6135.80 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 32k bytes: 8226.20 KByte/s Tx, 6186.44 KByte/s Rx.
> >
> >
> >
> > Model 9576i (Lacuna)
> > AMD X5 @ 133 MHz
> > 64 MB RAM
> > No L2 cache :-(
> > Windows 95
> > Burst Mode Rx+Tx
> > Netio 1.32
> >
> > Packet size 1k bytes: 1193.33 KByte/s Tx, 936.21 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 2k bytes: 1290.28 KByte/s Tx, 1114.61 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 4k bytes: 1389.92 KByte/s Tx, 1575.54 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 8k bytes: 1741.82 KByte/s Tx, 1541.64 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 16k bytes: 1969.17 KByte/s Tx, 1173.42 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 32k bytes: 1934.02 KByte/s Tx, 1874.79 KByte/s Rx.
> >
> >
> >
> > Model 7013-59H (RS/6000)
> > POWER2 @ 67 MHz
> > 1,25 GB RAM
> > 1 MB L2 cache
> > AIX 4.3.3 (IBM's driver)
> > Netio 1.32
> >
> > Packet size 1k bytes: 5113.53 KByte/s Tx, 6395.88 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 2k bytes: 6059.71 KByte/s Tx, 7318.23 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 4k bytes: 7213.85 KByte/s Tx, 7667.44 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 8k bytes: 7877.74 KByte/s Tx, 8501.13 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 16k bytes: 8819.90 KByte/s Tx, 8811.09 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 32k bytes: 8627.93 KByte/s Tx, 9067.06 KByte/s Rx.
> >
> >
> >
> > Model 7006-42T (RS/6000)
> > PowerPC @ 120 MHz
> > 192 MB RAM
> > 0.5 MB L2 cache
> > AIX 4.3.3 (IBM's driver)
> > Netio 1.32
> >
> > Packet size 1k bytes: 2558.84 KByte/s Tx, 619.03 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 2k bytes: 2754.74 KByte/s Tx, 1297.03 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 4k bytes: 3340.64 KByte/s Tx, 3816.94 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 8k bytes: 4013.11 KByte/s Tx, 3763.10 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 16k bytes: 4551.11 KByte/s Tx, 3802.62 KByte/s Rx.
> > Packet size 32k bytes: 4562.02 KByte/s Tx, 4275.55 KByte/s Rx.
> >
> >
> > What's interesting is the mixed performance on the RS/6000 systems. The later mid-range workstation machine with a faster CPU performs worse than the early 1992 high-performance server class system. I assume, the 7013 was built specifically for high-throughput and low-latency applications.
> >
> In particular, the memory bandwidth is insane on the POWER2 systems.
> The MHz is also misleading, it is a superscalar processor with 2 integer
> units and has double the cache (10ns I believe). It would be
> interesting to compare the context switch time of the PowerPC.
> > That the Lacuna and Reply perform so low is disappointing, but maybe there's a reason why IBM did not sell this adapter to PS/2 users - or maybe we will find a magic switch to make the card operate faster.
> I suspect you may be able to profit from games with the tx and rx
> interrupt masks.. the Linux pcnet32 driver looks like it has a (limited)
> poll mode which would be preferable to dealing with an interrupt for
> every packet on this old hw.

I ran netio with the 3com 10mbit card and found CPU usage drops when transmitting. As the packet size gets bigger the CPU usage obviously drops with 32k dropping to nearly 60% usage. I'll see if I can try the updated driver tonight.

As far as the Reply Board, I looked up an old photo of SpeedSys and the POD83 scores 41.68, for memory bandwidth... L1 Cache is 51.69MB/sec, L2 Cache is 31.54MB/sec, and Memory Throughput is 22.85 MB/sec. Not sure if that's decent or not, but I am pretty sure it beats the Valuepoint... and for some reason the POD83 scores higher on that system. I really think it's down to chipset.

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On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 6:23:24 PM UTC-5, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 4:55:29 PM UTC-5, Kevin Bowling wrote:
> > On 12/1/23 04:07, Christian Holzapfel wrote:
> > > Here a few benchmarks from my systems:
> > >
> > > Model 6886 (PC 750)
> > > AMD K6-III @ 400 MHz
> > > 192 MB RAM
> > > Windows 95
> > > Burst Mode Rx+Tx
> > > Netio 1.32
> > >
> > > Packet size 1k bytes: 4751.55 KByte/s Tx, 4547.97 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 2k bytes: 6082.19 KByte/s Tx, 4748.86 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 4k bytes: 6772.06 KByte/s Tx, 5595.94 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 8k bytes: 7378.91 KByte/s Tx, 5575.82 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 16k bytes: 7996.92 KByte/s Tx, 6135.80 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 32k bytes: 8226.20 KByte/s Tx, 6186.44 KByte/s Rx.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Model 9576i (Lacuna)
> > > AMD X5 @ 133 MHz
> > > 64 MB RAM
> > > No L2 cache :-(
> > > Windows 95
> > > Burst Mode Rx+Tx
> > > Netio 1.32
> > >
> > > Packet size 1k bytes: 1193.33 KByte/s Tx, 936.21 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 2k bytes: 1290.28 KByte/s Tx, 1114.61 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 4k bytes: 1389.92 KByte/s Tx, 1575.54 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 8k bytes: 1741.82 KByte/s Tx, 1541.64 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 16k bytes: 1969.17 KByte/s Tx, 1173.42 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 32k bytes: 1934.02 KByte/s Tx, 1874.79 KByte/s Rx.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Model 7013-59H (RS/6000)
> > > POWER2 @ 67 MHz
> > > 1,25 GB RAM
> > > 1 MB L2 cache
> > > AIX 4.3.3 (IBM's driver)
> > > Netio 1.32
> > >
> > > Packet size 1k bytes: 5113.53 KByte/s Tx, 6395.88 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 2k bytes: 6059.71 KByte/s Tx, 7318.23 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 4k bytes: 7213.85 KByte/s Tx, 7667.44 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 8k bytes: 7877.74 KByte/s Tx, 8501.13 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 16k bytes: 8819.90 KByte/s Tx, 8811.09 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 32k bytes: 8627.93 KByte/s Tx, 9067.06 KByte/s Rx.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Model 7006-42T (RS/6000)
> > > PowerPC @ 120 MHz
> > > 192 MB RAM
> > > 0.5 MB L2 cache
> > > AIX 4.3.3 (IBM's driver)
> > > Netio 1.32
> > >
> > > Packet size 1k bytes: 2558.84 KByte/s Tx, 619.03 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 2k bytes: 2754.74 KByte/s Tx, 1297.03 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 4k bytes: 3340.64 KByte/s Tx, 3816.94 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 8k bytes: 4013.11 KByte/s Tx, 3763.10 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 16k bytes: 4551.11 KByte/s Tx, 3802.62 KByte/s Rx.
> > > Packet size 32k bytes: 4562.02 KByte/s Tx, 4275.55 KByte/s Rx.
> > >
> > >
> > > What's interesting is the mixed performance on the RS/6000 systems. The later mid-range workstation machine with a faster CPU performs worse than the early 1992 high-performance server class system. I assume, the 7013 was built specifically for high-throughput and low-latency applications.
> > >
> > In particular, the memory bandwidth is insane on the POWER2 systems.
> > The MHz is also misleading, it is a superscalar processor with 2 integer
> > units and has double the cache (10ns I believe). It would be
> > interesting to compare the context switch time of the PowerPC.
> > > That the Lacuna and Reply perform so low is disappointing, but maybe there's a reason why IBM did not sell this adapter to PS/2 users - or maybe we will find a magic switch to make the card operate faster.
> > I suspect you may be able to profit from games with the tx and rx
> > interrupt masks.. the Linux pcnet32 driver looks like it has a (limited)
> > poll mode which would be preferable to dealing with an interrupt for
> > every packet on this old hw.
> I ran netio with the 3com 10mbit card and found CPU usage drops when transmitting. As the packet size gets bigger the CPU usage obviously drops with 32k dropping to nearly 60% usage. I'll see if I can try the updated driver tonight.
>
> As far as the Reply Board, I looked up an old photo of SpeedSys and the POD83 scores 41.68, for memory bandwidth... L1 Cache is 51.69MB/sec, L2 Cache is 31.54MB/sec, and Memory Throughput is 22.85 MB/sec. Not sure if that's decent or not, but I am pretty sure it beats the Valuepoint... and for some reason the POD83 scores higher on that system. I really think it's down to chipset.
Forgot, cachechk has different numbers than SpeedSys, for the Reply board Cachechk says L1 is 113.8MB/sec or 9.2ns, L2 is 50.3MB/sec or 20.9ns, and Main memory is 31.6MB/sec or 33.2ns. I've always been curious how the POD83 is gets choked on this system.

Also, I found the Speedsys/cachechk results for the Valuepoint system, Speedsys CPU scores as 60.41, the L1 cache is 69.40MB/sec, L2 is 38.73MB/sec, and Main memory is 26.06MB/s. Cachechk says L1 is 114.8MB/sec or 9.1ns, L2 is 49.2MB/sec or 21.3ns, and Main memory is 28.1Mb/sec or 37.3ns. So... I was wrong, the Valuepoint edges out the Reply TurboBoard by a few Mb/sec of memory bandwidth... but would a few MB/sec really make a ~33% dent in CPU performance for these kinds of systems and ranges back then?

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