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* Diagnosing problems with a *SPECIFIC* profileRichard Owlett
`* Diagnosing problems with a *SPECIFIC* profileMark Bourne
 +- Diagnosing problems with a *SPECIFIC* profileDon Spam's Reckless Son
 `* RESOLVED - was [Re: Diagnosing problems with a *SPECIFIC* profile]Richard Owlett
  +- RESOLVED - was [Re: Diagnosing problems with a *SPECIFIC*Daniel65
  +- RESOLVED - was [Re: Diagnosing problems with a *SPECIFIC*mike
  `- RESOLVED - was [Re: Diagnosing problems with a *SPECIFIC*Mark Bourne

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From: rowlett@cloud85.net (Richard Owlett)
Subject: Diagnosing problems with a *SPECIFIC* profile
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 09:18:56 -0500
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 by: Richard Owlett - Wed, 19 Apr 2023 14:18 UTC

This machine runs SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian 9.13 .
This is my *BACKUP* machine.
My primary machine [running current software ;] is unavailable.

The relevant profile has 2 email & 3 newsgroup accounts.

When attempting to add an additional email account by clicking on
"Create a new account", the "Account Wizard" does _not_ appear.
It dumps me into the process for adding an additional newsgroup.

The other profiles behave as expected.

How do I diagnose the problem?
I have two goals:
1. Solve the immediate problem, making a as few changes as possible.
2. Get an idea of what may have triggered the problem so I can avoid
a recurrence.

Help please.

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Subject: Re: Diagnosing problems with a *SPECIFIC* profile
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 by: Mark Bourne - Wed, 19 Apr 2023 19:58 UTC

Richard Owlett wrote:
> This machine runs SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian 9.13 .
> This is my *BACKUP* machine.
> My primary machine [running current software ;] is unavailable.
>
> The relevant profile has 2 email & 3 newsgroup accounts.
>
> When attempting to add an additional email account by clicking on
> "Create a new account", the "Account Wizard" does _not_ appear.
> It dumps me into the process for adding an additional newsgroup.
>
> The other profiles behave as expected.
>
> How do I diagnose the problem?
> I have two goals:
>   1. Solve the immediate problem, making a as few changes as possible.
>   2. Get an idea of what may have triggered the problem so I can avoid
>      a recurrence.
>
> Help please.

From the release notes
<https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.4/>:

> After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the MailNews account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be News). To work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid pref (where X is the internal number of the corresponding news account) to true in about:config, or delete the invalid news account (bug 521861).

(still in the release notes for current versions, for what it's worth)

--
Mark.

Re: Diagnosing problems with a *SPECIFIC* profile

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 by: Don Spam's Reck - Thu, 20 Apr 2023 08:14 UTC

Mark Bourne wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
>> This machine runs SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian 9.13 .
>> This is my *BACKUP* machine.
>> My primary machine [running current software ;] is unavailable.
>>
>> The relevant profile has 2 email & 3 newsgroup accounts.
>>
>> When attempting to add an additional email account by clicking on
>> "Create a new account", the "Account Wizard" does _not_ appear.
>> It dumps me into the process for adding an additional newsgroup.
>>
>> The other profiles behave as expected.
>>
>> How do I diagnose the problem?
>> I have two goals:
>>    1. Solve the immediate problem, making a as few changes as possible.
>>    2. Get an idea of what may have triggered the problem so I can avoid
>>       a recurrence.
>>
>> Help please.
>
> From the release notes
> <https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.4/>:
>
>> After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the
>> MailNews account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be
>> News). To work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid
>> pref (where X is the internal number of the corresponding news
>> account) to true in about:config, or delete the invalid news account
>> (bug 521861).
>
> (still in the release notes for current versions, for what it's worth)
>

I had a problem along these lines a few weeks ago. Don't forget to
terminate Seamonkey after having taken your "remediation" steps. That
was not in the documentation I saw but it turned out to be essential.

RESOLVED - was [Re: Diagnosing problems with a *SPECIFIC* profile]

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 by: Richard Owlett - Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:19 UTC

On 04/19/2023 02:58 PM, Mark Bourne wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
>> This machine runs SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian 9.13 .
>> This is my *BACKUP* machine.
>> My primary machine [running current software ;] is unavailable.
>>
>> The relevant profile has 2 email & 3 newsgroup accounts.
>>
>> When attempting to add an additional email account by clicking on
>> "Create a new account", the "Account Wizard" does _not_ appear.
>> It dumps me into the process for adding an additional newsgroup.
>>
>> The other profiles behave as expected.
>>
>> How do I diagnose the problem?
>> I have two goals:
>>    1. Solve the immediate problem, making a as few changes as possible.
>>    2. Get an idea of what may have triggered the problem so I can avoid
>>       a recurrence.
>>
>> Help please.
>
> From the release notes
> <https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.4/>:
>
>> After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the
>> MailNews account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be
>> News). To work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid
>> pref (where X is the internal number of the corresponding news
>> account) to true in about:config, or delete the invalid news account
>> (bug 521861).
>
> (still in the release notes for current versions, for what it's worth)
>

That got me pointed in the right direction.
I blindly removed a newsgroup has been having server problems.

Using "?" as a wild-card, does about:config something have that would
emulate
mail.server.server?.valid

Thank you

Re: RESOLVED - was [Re: Diagnosing problems with a *SPECIFIC* profile]

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 by: Daniel65 - Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:40 UTC

Richard Owlett wrote on 20/4/23 9:19 pm:
> On 04/19/2023 02:58 PM, Mark Bourne wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> This machine runs SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian 9.13 . This is my
>>> *BACKUP* machine. My primary machine [running current software ;]
>>> is unavailable.
>>>
>>> The relevant profile has 2 email & 3 newsgroup accounts.
>>>
>>> When attempting to add an additional email account by clicking on
>>> "Create a new account", the "Account Wizard" does _not_ appear.
>>> It dumps me into the process for adding an additional newsgroup.
>>>
>>> The other profiles behave as expected.
>>>
>>> How do I diagnose the problem? I have two goals: 1. Solve the
>>> immediate problem, making a as few changes as possible. 2. Get an
>>> idea of what may have triggered the problem so I can avoid a
>>> recurrence.
>>>
>>> Help please.
>>
>> From the release notes
>> <https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.4/>:
>>
>>> After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the
>>> MailNews account wizard may be broken (the account type will
>>> always be News). To work around the problem, set the
>>> mail.server.serverX.valid pref (where X is the internal number of
>>> the corresponding news account) to true in about:config, or
>>> delete the invalid news account (bug 521861).
>>
>> (still in the release notes for current versions, for what it's
>> worth)
>>
>
> That got me pointed in the right direction. I blindly removed a
> newsgroup has been having server problems.
>
> Using "?" as a wild-card, does about:config something have that would
> emulate mail.server.server?.valid
>
> Thank you
>
The '?" is the Account number .... i.e. your email account would
probably be 'server1', the "Local Folders" would be 'server2', your
first NNTP Server 'server3', your next NNTP Server 'server4', etc., etc..
--
Daniel

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 by: mike - Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:56 UTC

On 20.04.2023 13:19, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Using "?" as a wild-card, does about:config something have that would
> emulate
>                   mail.server.server?.valid

AFAIK about:config doesn't support extended matching via wildcards or
even regexes. But entering ".valid" will probably be a pretty good
filter in this case.

Re: RESOLVED - was [Re: Diagnosing problems with a *SPECIFIC* profile]

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 by: Mark Bourne - Thu, 20 Apr 2023 19:17 UTC

Richard Owlett wrote:
> Using "?" as a wild-card, does about:config something have that would
> emulate
>                   mail.server.server?.valid

Although "?" doesn't seem to work to match any single character, "*"
does seem to work to match any number of characters. So you can use:
mail.server.server*.valid
or:
mail.server.*.valid

Or, as Mike suggested, just searching for ".valid" doesn't throw up too
many other entries in this case.

--
Mark.

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