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by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 13:13 UTC

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by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 13:22 UTC

Not really sure, looks to have 256K on-board, four 18 pin DIP sockets.
Maybe rams this card into True Color with 512KB of screamin' DRAM?

Louis Ohland wrote:
> F82C452A
> 50.350
> 28.322
> 65.000
> 40.000
>
> richard smice wrote:
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/145171942102
>>
>> I was never able to get one of these to play in
>> an Ibm computer. They worked fine in AlR systems.
>>
>> any Ideas...
>>

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by: richard smice - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 17:01 UTC

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by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 19:32 UTC

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by: richard smice - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 19:41 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 3:32:07 PM UTC-4, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Drivers?
> richard smice wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 10:30:15 AM UTC-4, Ryan Alswede wrote:
> >>> an Ibm computer. They worked fine in AlR systems.
> >> So no windows world value...
> > They fit nicely into a "IBM" video card socket..... but will not go through configuration....
> >
I could not even get it to give up an adf # of what it was

with the locator

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by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 20:17 UTC

ALR bought up by Gateway. Damnable FTP site... Might as well hang one on
at the local bar.

richard smice wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 3:32:07 PM UTC-4, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> Drivers?
>> richard smice wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 10:30:15 AM UTC-4, Ryan Alswede wrote:
>>>>> an Ibm computer. They worked fine in AlR systems.
>>>> So no windows world value...
>>> They fit nicely into a "IBM" video card socket..... but will not go through configuration....
>>>
> I could not even get it to give up an adf # of what it was
>
> with the locator
>

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by: richard smice - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 20:20 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 4:17:09 PM UTC-4, Louis Ohland wrote:
> ALR bought up by Gateway. Damnable FTP site... Might as well hang one on
> at the local bar.
> richard smice wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 3:32:07 PM UTC-4, Louis Ohland wrote:
> >> Drivers?
> >> richard smice wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 10:30:15 AM UTC-4, Ryan Alswede wrote:
> >>>>> an Ibm computer. They worked fine in AlR systems.
> >>>> So no windows world value...
> >>> They fit nicely into a "IBM" video card socket..... but will not go through configuration....
> >>>
> > I could not even get it to give up an adf # of what it was
> >
> > with the locator
> >

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by: richard smice - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 20:21 UTC

82C452_Super_VGA_Graphics_Controller datasheet

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by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 20:25 UTC

82C452_Super_VGA_Graphics_Controller_199109.pdf

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by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 20:46 UTC

Display Modes And Resolution
82C452 supports a superset of all VGA modes. The
maximum display bandwidth is 200 MBits/s - 25
MHz at 9 bits/pixel or 50 MHz at 4 bits/pixel. This
translates to resolutions up to 640x480 in 256 colors
(packed pixel mode), up to 960x720 in 16 colors
(both planer and packed pixel mode) and up to
1280x960 in 4 colors (both planer mode and packed
pixel mode). Higher resolution modes such as
1280x1024 four color modes can be supported with
external hardware. This is shown in the figures on
the following pages.

richard smice wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 4:18:42 PM UTC-4, richard smice wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 4:11:09 PM UTC-4, Ryan Alswede wrote:
>>>>> but will not go through configuration....
>>> Did you try different PS/2 machines, fast slow etc?
>> Yes several.. they came out of 386 ALR towers....
> " No Moo!" Gateway...
>

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by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 20:48 UTC

http://www.bitsavers.org/components/chipsAndTech/82C452_Super_VGA_Graphics_Controller_199109.pdf

Louis Ohland wrote:
> 82C452_Super_VGA_Graphics_Controller_199109.pdf
>
> richard smice wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 3:32:07 PM UTC-4, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>> Drivers?
>>> richard smice wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 10:30:15 AM UTC-4, Ryan Alswede wrote:
>>>>>> an Ibm computer. They worked fine in AlR systems.
>>>>> So no windows world value...
>>>> They fit nicely into a "IBM" video card socket..... but will not go
>>>> through configuration....
>>>>
>> I could not even get it to give up an adf # of what it was
>>
>> with the locator
>>

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by: richard smice - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 20:49 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 4:45:55 PM UTC-4, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Display Modes And Resolution
> 82C452 supports a superset of all VGA modes. The
> maximum display bandwidth is 200 MBits/s - 25
> MHz at 9 bits/pixel or 50 MHz at 4 bits/pixel. This
> translates to resolutions up to 640x480 in 256 colors
> (packed pixel mode), up to 960x720 in 16 colors
> (both planer and packed pixel mode) and up to
> 1280x960 in 4 colors (both planer mode and packed
> pixel mode). Higher resolution modes such as
> 1280x1024 four color modes can be supported with
> external hardware. This is shown in the figures on
> the following pages.
> richard smice wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 4:18:42 PM UTC-4, richard smice wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 4:11:09 PM UTC-4, Ryan Alswede wrote:
> >>>>> but will not go through configuration....
> >>> Did you try different PS/2 machines, fast slow etc?
> >> Yes several.. they came out of 386 ALR towers....
> > " No Moo!" Gateway...
> >
Were you able to find an adf for this card..... maybe just fits ALR

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by: richard smice - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 21:12 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 4:49:39 PM UTC-4, Louis Ohland wrote:
> http://www.bitsavers.org/components/chipsAndTech/82C452_Super_VGA_Graphics_Controller_199109.pdf
> Louis Ohland wrote:
> > 82C452_Super_VGA_Graphics_Controller_199109.pdf
> >
> > richard smice wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 3:32:07 PM UTC-4, Louis Ohland wrote:
> >>> Drivers?
> >>> richard smice wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 10:30:15 AM UTC-4, Ryan Alswede wrote:
> >>>>>> an Ibm computer. They worked fine in AlR systems.
> >>>>> So no windows world value...
> >>>> They fit nicely into a "IBM" video card socket..... but will not go
> >>>> through configuration....
> >>>>
> >> I could not even get it to give up an adf # of what it was
> >>
> >> with the locator
> >>
Hey! Louis alr video card , I will send one your way If you want to spend some time with it... all yours...
I have a lot of extra Model 95's ( 50 or more and some 500's and 750"s) If you want one as well.. I'm cleaning house. I still owe you for the super nice gear box
you will need to pay shipping.. it will be a lot.. Unless Kevin makes his voyage... I have a couple of extra 320's combo machines as well,, all will be listed on flea bay soon...

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by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 22:30 UTC

No. What system(s) is it for?

richard smice wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 4:45:55 PM UTC-4, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> Display Modes And Resolution
>> 82C452 supports a superset of all VGA modes. The
>> maximum display bandwidth is 200 MBits/s - 25
>> MHz at 9 bits/pixel or 50 MHz at 4 bits/pixel. This
>> translates to resolutions up to 640x480 in 256 colors
>> (packed pixel mode), up to 960x720 in 16 colors
>> (both planer and packed pixel mode) and up to
>> 1280x960 in 4 colors (both planer mode and packed
>> pixel mode). Higher resolution modes such as
>> 1280x1024 four color modes can be supported with
>> external hardware. This is shown in the figures on
>> the following pages.
>> richard smice wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 4:18:42 PM UTC-4, richard smice wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 4:11:09 PM UTC-4, Ryan Alswede wrote:
>>>>>>> but will not go through configuration....
>>>>> Did you try different PS/2 machines, fast slow etc?
>>>> Yes several.. they came out of 386 ALR towers....
>>> " No Moo!" Gateway...
>>>
> Were you able to find an adf for this card..... maybe just fits ALR
>

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Subject	Author
ALR video card	richard smice
Re: ALR video card	Louis Ohland
Re: ALR video card	Louis Ohland
Re: ALR video card	Ryan Alswede
Re: ALR video card	richard smice
Re: ALR video card	Louis Ohland
Re: ALR video card	richard smice
Re: ALR video card	Louis Ohland
Re: ALR video card	richard smice
82C452_Super_VGA_Graphics_Controller datasheet	Louis Ohland
Re: 82C452_Super_VGA_Graphics_Controller datasheet	Louis Ohland
Re: 82C452_Super_VGA_Graphics_Controller datasheet	richard smice
Re: 82C452_Super_VGA_Graphics_Controller datasheet	Ryan Alswede
Re: ALR video card	Ryan Alswede
Re: ALR video card	richard smice
Re: ALR video card	richard smice
Re: ALR video card	Louis Ohland
Re: ALR video card	richard smice
Re: ALR video card	Louis Ohland