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* "It's Embarrassingly Hard to Get Google Gemini to Acknowledge That White People D. Ray
+* Re: "It's Embarrassingly Hard to Get Google Gemini to Acknowledge That White PeoThe Real Bev
|+- Re: "It's Embarrassingly Hard to Get Google Gemini to Acknowledge That White Peocandycanearter07
|`* Re: "It's Embarrassingly Hard to Get Google Gemini to Acknowledge That White PeoD. Ray
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|  `* Re: "It's Embarrassingly Hard to Get Google Gemini to Acknowledge That White PeoJulieta Shem
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`* Re: "It's Embarrassingly Hard to Get Google Gemini to Acknowledge That White Peoimmibis
 `- Re: "It's Embarrassingly Hard to Get Google Gemini to Acknowledge That White PeoD. Ray

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 by: D. Ray - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 20:43 UTC

Google's so-called "AI" Gemini (formerly Bard) is being manually programmed
to erase white people.

<https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64305>

<https://archive.ph/ywmEq>

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 by: The Real Bev - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:42 UTC

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On 2/24/24 8:43 PM, D. Ray wrote:
> Google's so-called "AI" Gemini (formerly Bard) is being manually programmed
> to erase white people.

It's obviously not very good at it -- I'm still here and completely visible.

So far I've been unhappy with Bard, Gemini and openai. A few months ago
I asked openai.com a question about a usenet situation and got a
reasonable, although incorrect, answer. I just asked gemini and openai
the same question and got nothing at all.

--
Cheers, Bev
...so few snipers, so many politicians...

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 by: candycanearter07 - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 03:13 UTC

On 2024-02-24, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 2/24/24 8:43 PM, D. Ray wrote:
>> Google's so-called "AI" Gemini (formerly Bard) is being manually programmed
>> to erase white people.
>
> It's obviously not very good at it -- I'm still here and completely visible.
>
> So far I've been unhappy with Bard, Gemini and openai. A few months ago
> I asked openai.com a question about a usenet situation and got a
> reasonable, although incorrect, answer. I just asked gemini and openai
> the same question and got nothing at all.

Huh, did they talk about the GG closure?
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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 by: D. Ray - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 04:53 UTC

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 2/24/24 8:43 PM, D. Ray wrote:
>> Google's so-called "AI" Gemini (formerly Bard) is being manually programmed
>> to erase white people.
>
> It's obviously not very good at it -- I'm still here and completely visible.

What about your grandchildren? What would they think about “people who were
born in Scotland in the year 1820”? Or Europeans and European history in
general?

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 by: D - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 11:09 UTC

On Sun, 25 Feb 2024, D. Ray wrote:

> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> <other groups snipped>
>>
>> On 2/24/24 8:43 PM, D. Ray wrote:
>>> Google's so-called "AI" Gemini (formerly Bard) is being manually programmed
>>> to erase white people.
>>
>> It's obviously not very good at it -- I'm still here and completely visible.
>
> What about your grandchildren? What would they think about “people who were
> born in Scotland in the year 1820”? Or Europeans and European history in
> general?
>

I find it hilarious and scary how politics seems to infect every single
area of life these days.

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 by: Julieta Shem - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 13:45 UTC

D <nospam@example.net> writes:

[...]

> I find it hilarious and scary how politics seems to infect every
> single area of life these days.

That's how people are susceptible to propaganda. But lack of interest
in politics is also caused by propaganda. Now, just because people act
like they care about politics doesn't mean, actually, that they really
are interested in it. Most of the time in my observation they're just
obeying the instructions of propaganda. So the current widespread
interest in politics is just illusory. People are still not interested
in real politics, which is why so much time is spent on irrelevancies.

The root cause of the phenomenon is lack of intelligence. But ``lack''
here is a misnomer. Contrary to what most people seem to imply,
intelligence is not what one possess. Intelligence is itself a
phenomenon. To use the phenomenon it is necessary to be in perfect
health. So what we see increasing in society is a public health crisis.

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 by: D - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 14:54 UTC

On Sun, 25 Feb 2024, Julieta Shem wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>> I find it hilarious and scary how politics seems to infect every
>> single area of life these days.
>
> That's how people are susceptible to propaganda. But lack of interest
> in politics is also caused by propaganda. Now, just because people act
> like they care about politics doesn't mean, actually, that they really
> are interested in it. Most of the time in my observation they're just
> obeying the instructions of propaganda. So the current widespread
> interest in politics is just illusory. People are still not interested
> in real politics, which is why so much time is spent on irrelevancies.
>
> The root cause of the phenomenon is lack of intelligence. But ``lack''
> here is a misnomer. Contrary to what most people seem to imply,
> intelligence is not what one possess. Intelligence is itself a
> phenomenon. To use the phenomenon it is necessary to be in perfect
> health. So what we see increasing in society is a public health crisis.
>

What is your definition of politics and _real_ interest in politics?

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 by: immibis - Mon, 26 Feb 2024 11:25 UTC

On 24/02/24 21:43, D. Ray wrote:
> Google's so-called "AI" Gemini (formerly Bard) is being manually programmed
> to erase white people.
>
> …
>
> …
>
> <https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64305>
>
> <https://archive.ph/ywmEq>
>
>

Most people, including white supremacists, don't acknowledge that white
people exist. White people are normally seen as the default, just
"people" and not "white people", unless being contrasted with something
else. "Black people" are often spoken of; so are "black and white
people"; "white people" is relatively rare unless coming from someone
who studies race a lot. Is it not the goal of an AI to mimic a human,
and therefore, to mimic human biases?

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 by: D. Ray - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 06:46 UTC

immibis <news@immibis.com> wrote:
> On 24/02/24 21:43, D. Ray wrote:
>> Google's so-called "AI" Gemini (formerly Bard) is being manually programmed
>> to erase white people.
>>
>> …
>>
>> …
>>
>> <https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64305>
>>
>> <https://archive.ph/ywmEq>
>>
>>
>
> Most people, including white supremacists, don't acknowledge that white
> people exist.

So “White supremacists” think of Blacks when asked about people who were
born in Scotland in year 1820? I hope you understand how it sounds.

> White people are normally seen as the default, just
> "people" and not "white people", unless being contrasted with something
> else. "Black people" are often spoken of; so are "black and white
> people"; "white people" is relatively rare unless coming from someone
> who studies race a lot. Is it not the goal of an AI to mimic a human,
> and therefore, to mimic human biases?

Strange argument.

If human is imagining White people by default when thinking of people, then
AI is doing a bad job mimicking human by using any other race except of
White if race was not specified.

What really happens is, of course, that AI was manually programmed to do
that specifically in order to remove White people from history and
everywhere else and replace them with “diversity” instead, so future
generations will think that’s the way it always been.

I wonder how long it is until they start to recreate historical footage,
photographs, and paintings to insert “diversity”. AI will have that
capability very soon.

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rocksolid light 0.9.8
clearnet tor