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* Thunderbird ?philo
+* Re: Thunderbird ?Mike Easter
|`- Re: Thunderbird ?philo
+* Re: Thunderbird ?Marco Moock
|`- Re: Thunderbird ?philo
+* Re: Thunderbird ?Marco Moock
|`* Re: Thunderbird ?philo
| `* Re: Thunderbird ?Marco Moock
|  `* Re: Thunderbird ?philo
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|    `* Re: Thunderbird ?philo
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|`* Re: Thunderbird ?Johnny
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From: philo@privacy.net (philo)
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Subject: Thunderbird ?
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 by: philo - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 17:40 UTC

Posting here as I cannot find a Thunderbird group.

If I want to subscribe to a group and know the *exact* name, I can do so.

I became suspicious something was wrong when I could not find a win11 group.

If I searched for a group containing windows-11 none was found, yet if I
put in the full name alt.comp.os.windows-11
there it was

What has gone wrong with Thunderbird ?

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From: MikeE@ster.invalid (Mike Easter)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.ubuntu
Subject: Re: Thunderbird ?
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 by: Mike Easter - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 17:51 UTC

philo wrote:
> Posting here as I cannot find a Thunderbird group.
>
alt.comp.software.thunderbird
>
> If I want to subscribe to a group and know the *exact* name, I can do so.
>
> I became suspicious something was wrong when I could not find a win11
> group.
>
> If I searched for a group containing windows-11 none was found, yet if I
> put in the full name alt.comp.os.windows-11
> there it was
>
> What has gone wrong with Thunderbird ?

When I first searched for no-quote 'windows-11', it didn't come up, but
that turned out to be because my list needed to be refreshed. After
refreshing the list, Tb found windows-11 ok in alt.comp.os.windows-11.

--
Mike Easter

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 by: Marco Moock - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 18:01 UTC

Am 06.04.2023 um 12:40:59 Uhr schrieb philo:

> If I searched for a group containing windows-11 none was found, yet
> if I put in the full name alt.comp.os.windows-11
> there it was

Did you update/refresh the list of available groups?

It is available on E-S:
https://www.eternal-september.org/groups.php?hierarchy=alt

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From: philo@privacy.net (philo)
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Subject: Re: Thunderbird ?
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 by: philo - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 18:04 UTC

On 4/6/23 12:51 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
> philo wrote:
>> Posting here as I cannot find a Thunderbird group.
>>
> alt.comp.software.thunderbird
>>
>> If I want to subscribe to a group and know the *exact* name, I can do so.
>>
>> I became suspicious something was wrong when I could not find a win11
>> group.
>>
>> If I searched for a group containing windows-11 none was found, yet if
>> I put in the full name alt.comp.os.windows-11
>> there it was
>>
>> What has gone wrong with Thunderbird ?
>
> When I first searched for no-quote 'windows-11', it didn't come up, but
> that turned out to be because my list needed to be refreshed.  After
> refreshing the list, Tb found windows-11 ok in alt.comp.os.windows-11.
>
>

I did refresh it but it did not show.
That said, after I subscribed to it, it did show after I refreshed.

Thanks for the reply

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 by: philo - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 18:08 UTC

On 4/6/23 1:01 PM, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 06.04.2023 um 12:40:59 Uhr schrieb philo:
>
>> If I searched for a group containing windows-11 none was found, yet
>> if I put in the full name alt.comp.os.windows-11
>> there it was
>
> Did you update/refresh the list of available groups?
>
> It is available on E-S:
> https://www.eternal-september.org/groups.php?hierarchy=alt
>

I did refresh

Anyway, if I have another such problem I can use the link you provided
to see which groups they carry

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 by: Marco Moock - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 18:15 UTC

Am 06.04.2023 um 12:40:59 Uhr schrieb philo:

> Posting here as I cannot find a Thunderbird group.

alt.comp.software.thunderbird

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 by: philo - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 18:28 UTC

On 4/6/23 1:15 PM, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 06.04.2023 um 12:40:59 Uhr schrieb philo:
>
>> Posting here as I cannot find a Thunderbird group.
>
> alt.comp.software.thunderbird
>

Thank you, I will ask there.

It did not show up after a refresh, but it did once I entered the name
exactly

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 by: philo - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 19:08 UTC

On 4/6/23 12:40 PM, philo wrote:
> Posting here as I cannot find a Thunderbird group.
>
>
> If I want to subscribe to a group and know the *exact* name, I can do so.
>
> I became suspicious something was wrong when I could not find a win11
> group.
>
> If I searched for a group containing windows-11 none was found, yet if I
> put in the full name alt.comp.os.windows-11
> there it was
>
> What has gone wrong with Thunderbird ?

on the Thunderbird group I was asked which news server I was using.

Seems like the problem is with Eternal September and and not even a
Thunderbird problem.

Thanks all !

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 by: Marco Moock - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 19:35 UTC

Am 06.04.2023 um 13:28:27 Uhr schrieb philo:

> It did not show up after a refresh, but it did once I entered the
> name exactly

Did you include asterisk at the beginning and at the end of the search
string?

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 by: Marco Moock - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 19:36 UTC

Am 06.04.2023 um 14:08:02 Uhr schrieb philo:

> Seems like the problem is with Eternal September and and not even a
> Thunderbird problem.

I can properly find and subscribe to the group via E-S.

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 by: philo - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 19:37 UTC

On 4/6/23 2:35 PM, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 06.04.2023 um 13:28:27 Uhr schrieb philo:
>
>> It did not show up after a refresh, but it did once I entered the
>> name exactly
>
> Did you include asterisk at the beginning and at the end of the search
> string?
>

No, that has never been necessary.

Anyway, it seems it's on Eternal September's end. It did not happen
using another news server

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 by: Johnny - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 19:45 UTC

On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:08:02 -0500
philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:

> On 4/6/23 12:40 PM, philo wrote:
> > Posting here as I cannot find a Thunderbird group.
> >
> >
> > If I want to subscribe to a group and know the *exact* name, I can
> > do so.
> >
> > I became suspicious something was wrong when I could not find a
> > win11 group.
> >
> > If I searched for a group containing windows-11 none was found, yet
> > if I put in the full name alt.comp.os.windows-11
> > there it was
> >
> > What has gone wrong with Thunderbird ?
>
>
>
> on the Thunderbird group I was asked which news server I was using.
>
> Seems like the problem is with Eternal September and and not even a
> Thunderbird problem.
>
> Thanks all !

I use Eternal September. If I type in windows-11, it shows up
immediately.

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 by: philo - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 19:46 UTC

On 4/6/23 2:36 PM, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 06.04.2023 um 14:08:02 Uhr schrieb philo:
>
>> Seems like the problem is with Eternal September and and not even a
>> Thunderbird problem.
>
> I can properly find and subscribe to the group via E-S.
>

Weird, I always get the odd ones

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 by: Marco Moock - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 19:52 UTC

Am 06.04.2023 um 14:37:31 Uhr schrieb philo:

> No, that has never been necessary.
>
> Anyway, it seems it's on Eternal September's end. It did not happen
> using another news server

Please specify hostname and port you are using. E-S currently also runs
a test server on nntp-new.eternal-september.org.

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 by: philo - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 21:27 UTC

On 4/6/23 2:52 PM, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 06.04.2023 um 14:37:31 Uhr schrieb philo:
>
>> No, that has never been necessary.
>>
>> Anyway, it seems it's on Eternal September's end. It did not happen
>> using another news server
>
> Please specify hostname and port you are using. E-S currently also runs
> a test server on nntp-new.eternal-september.org.
>

news.eternal-september.org port 119

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 by: philo - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 21:27 UTC

On 4/6/23 2:45 PM, Johnny wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:08:02 -0500
> philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/6/23 12:40 PM, philo wrote:
>>> Posting here as I cannot find a Thunderbird group.
>>>
>>>
>>> If I want to subscribe to a group and know the *exact* name, I can
>>> do so.
>>>
>>> I became suspicious something was wrong when I could not find a
>>> win11 group.
>>>
>>> If I searched for a group containing windows-11 none was found, yet
>>> if I put in the full name alt.comp.os.windows-11
>>> there it was
>>>
>>> What has gone wrong with Thunderbird ?
>>
>>
>>
>> on the Thunderbird group I was asked which news server I was using.
>>
>> Seems like the problem is with Eternal September and and not even a
>> Thunderbird problem.
>>
>> Thanks all !
>
> I use Eternal September. If I type in windows-11, it shows up
> immediately.
>

as it should

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 by: philo - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 21:44 UTC

On 4/6/23 12:40 PM, philo wrote:
> Posting here as I cannot find a Thunderbird group.
>
>
> If I want to subscribe to a group and know the *exact* name, I can do so.
>
> I became suspicious something was wrong when I could not find a win11
> group.
>
> If I searched for a group containing windows-11 none was found, yet if I
> put in the full name alt.comp.os.windows-11
> there it was
>
> What has gone wrong with Thunderbird ?

The problem seems to be with the Linux version.

On Windows it shows up by simply entering windows-11 but only after a
refresh.

If I close the reader and re-open, it still needs a refresh, but it at
least works.

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 by: Marco Moock - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 09:05 UTC

Am 06.04.2023 um 16:27:20 Uhr schrieb philo:

> news.eternal-september.org port 119

I also use that server, I can see the group in the list with Claws Mail
and Thunderbird.

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 by: Dr. Noah Bodie - Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:41 UTC

On 04/06/2023 06:44 PM, philo wrote:
> The problem seems to be with the Linux version.
>
> On Windows it shows up by simply entering windows-11 but only after a
> refresh.
>
> If I close the reader and re-open, it still needs a refresh, but it at least works.

I use a legacy TB and if I type "s-11" in the search window then "
windows-11" comes up.

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 by: bilsch01 - Wed, 24 May 2023 02:53 UTC

On 4/6/2023 10:40 AM, philo wrote:
> Posting here as I cannot find a Thunderbird group.
>

typed below is name of a thunderbird group:

alt.comp.software.thunderbird

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