What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?

Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.

I updated Seamonkey.
I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.

I don't see it in the list to add.

What is the subscription name seen in Seamonkey for the active Windows
XP newsgroup ?

OT sorry

But I found it and subscribed and it all loaded.

Do not know why I had the initial problem but now is resolved .... I hope.

Jordee wrote:
> What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?
>
> Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.
>
> I updated Seamonkey.
> I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.
>
> I don't see it in the list to add.
>
>
> What is the subscription name seen in Seamonkey for the active Windows
> XP newsgroup ?

On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0800, Jordee <Jordee@Noplace.com> wrote:

>What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?
>
>Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.
>
>I updated Seamonkey.
>I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.

Do you mean alt.comp.os.wwindows-xp?

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 06:44:28, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
>On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0800, Jordee <Jordee@Noplace.com> wrote:
>
>>What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?
>>
>>Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.
>>
>>I updated Seamonkey.
>>I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.
>
>Do you mean alt.comp.os.wwindows-xp?
>
Or microsoft.public.windowsxp.general? (Which now has nothing to do with
Microsoft.)
>
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

When I'm good, I'm very good. But when I'm bad - I'm better! (Mae West)

On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 05:53:21 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 06:44:28, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
>wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
>>On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0800, Jordee <Jordee@Noplace.com> wrote:
>>
>>>What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?
>>>
>>>Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.
>>>
>>>I updated Seamonkey.
>>>I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.
>>
>>Do you mean alt.comp.os.wwindows-xp?
>>
>Or microsoft.public.windowsxp.general? (Which now has nothing to do with
>Microsoft.)

I suppose one should subscribe to both, just to be on the safe side.

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 09:16:22 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 05:53:21 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
> <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 06:44:28, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
>>wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
>>>On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0800, Jordee <Jordee@Noplace.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?
>>>>
>>>>Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.
>>>>
>>>>I updated Seamonkey.
>>>>I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.
>>>
>>>Do you mean alt.comp.os.wwindows-xp?
>>>
>>Or microsoft.public.windowsxp.general? (Which now has nothing to do with
>>Microsoft.)
>
> I suppose one should subscribe to both, just to be on the safe side.

To any XP user, 'safe' is a foreign country.

On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 at 09:16:22, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
>On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 05:53:21 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 06:44:28, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
>>wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
>>>On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0800, Jordee <Jordee@Noplace.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?
>>>>
>>>>Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.
>>>>
>>>>I updated Seamonkey.
>>>>I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.
>>>
>>>Do you mean alt.comp.os.wwindows-xp?
>>>
>>Or microsoft.public.windowsxp.general? (Which now has nothing to do with
>>Microsoft.)
>
>I suppose one should subscribe to both, just to be on the safe side.
>
>
Nothing to lose. There are - or have been - others; my list (which
includes, I think, ones going back to '95 or before) includes
0.verison.windowsxp, alt.binaries.cd.images.windows.xp,
alt.binaries.warez.winxp, alt.comp.os.windows-xp, alt.nl.is.windows-xp
and '.xp, alt.os.windows-xp (and various with that plus "for..." various
categories of people!), alt.os.windows.xp,
alt.os.windowsxp,alt.pl.comp.os.windowsxp, alt.windows-xp,
fj.os.ms-windows.xp, free.it.comp.os.win.winxp, free.it.os.win.winxp,
it.comp.os.win.xp, lots of microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.*,
microsoft.public.dk.windowsxp, four microsoft.public.es.windowsxp.*,
microsoft.public.fr.windowsxp and five .*, similar (varying numbers)
with .jp., .nl. instead of .fr., microsoft.public.windowsxp and many .*
(probably about 100 of those), then with .za., mk.comp.os.windowsxp, and
probably others (my list has 825 with xp in, but that includes explorer
and other words).

Some of these probably only ever existed briefly (especially the "for
...." ones).

The above m.p.w.general seems to be about as active as one might expect
XP to be these days (i. e. quiet, but not dead); I don't think I've ever
subscribed to any of the others.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Easy reading is damned hard writing. -Nathaniel Hawthorne, writer (1804-1864)

On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 09:16:22 +0200, Steve Hayes
<hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 05:53:21 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 06:44:28, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
>>wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
>>>On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0800, Jordee <Jordee@Noplace.com> wrote:

>
>I suppose one should subscribe to both, just to be on the safe side.

There's also alt.os.windows-xp

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

is the popular one.

On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 06:55:52 -0800, RecentlyOrLately wrote:

> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
>
> is the popular one.

For some weird definition of 'popular'.

On 21/12/2021 16:02, mechanic wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 06:55:52 -0800, RecentlyOrLately wrote:
>
>> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
>>
>> is the popular one.
>
> For some weird definition of 'popular'.

But there are so many other microsoft.public.windowsxp.* groups that
you'd need to join just to make sure you didn't miss anything.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

In alt.windows7.general Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
> On 21/12/2021 16:02, mechanic wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 06:55:52 -0800, RecentlyOrLately wrote:
> >
> >> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
> >>
> >> is the popular one.
> >
> > For some weird definition of 'popular'.

> But there are so many other microsoft.public.windowsxp.* groups that
> you'd need to join just to make sure you didn't miss anything.

But they're mostly quiet compared to W7 and W10. :P
--
Dang coldness, colony, works, leaks, mess, z, software upgrades, free games, spams, (scam/fraud)s, greeds, inflations, illnesses, body, life, craziness, BUSYness, etc. again. :( Happy Holidays / Season's Greetings / Merry Christmas / etc. though. *<|:D
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
/ /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )

On 12/22/2021 1:08 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
> On 21/12/2021 16:02, mechanic wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 06:55:52 -0800, RecentlyOrLately wrote:
>>
>>> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
>>>
>>> is the popular one.
>>
>> For some weird definition of 'popular'.
>
> But there are so many other microsoft.public.windowsxp.* groups that you'd need to join just to make sure you didn't miss anything.
>

In rough round numbers, there used to be 3000 microsoft.* groups
in a private hierarchy.

After the great cleanup, this was reduced to 2000. Some
of the groups had not had posts for around 2 years or so,

After this, Microsoft closed their own hierarchy, without sending
signed rmgroup() commands. For many administrators, they would simply
accept these and the groups would disappear.

Because Microsoft did not do the right things, the groups languish
at the favor of the individual administrators. Administrators still
sweep house once in a while, and say, those alt.* groups created could
be removed if the traffic isn't there.

Not even all the vanity alt groups were removed. Although at one time,
perhaps a hundred thousand groups that had been created by users, needed
to be removed. Not all of them disappeared, just most of them.

A given group exists, unless you give someone an incentive to remove it.

Paul

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:21:47 -0600, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>In alt.windows7.general Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
>> On 21/12/2021 16:02, mechanic wrote:
>> > On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 06:55:52 -0800, RecentlyOrLately wrote:
>> >
>> >> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
>> >>
>> >> is the popular one.
>> >
>> > For some weird definition of 'popular'.
>
>> But there are so many other microsoft.public.windowsxp.* groups that
>> you'd need to join just to make sure you didn't miss anything.
>
>But they're mostly quiet compared to W7 and W10. :P

Lots of things don't work in XP that work in 7. I am not quite sure
what you get with 10 or 11 that I don't get with 7 except a voracious
appetite for resources.

gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:21:47 -0600, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> >In alt.windows7.general Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 21/12/2021 16:02, mechanic wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 06:55:52 -0800, RecentlyOrLately wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
> >> >>
> >> >> is the popular one.
> >> >
> >> > For some weird definition of 'popular'.
> >
> >> But there are so many other microsoft.public.windowsxp.* groups that
> >> you'd need to join just to make sure you didn't miss anything.
> >
> >But they're mostly quiet compared to W7 and W10. :P

> Lots of things don't work in XP that work in 7. I am not quite sure
> what you get with 10 or 11 that I don't get with 7 except a voracious
> appetite for resources.

For me, newer games and non-game softwares. :(
--
Dang coldness, colony, works, leaks, mess, z, software upgrades, free games, spams, (scam/fraud)s, greeds, inflations, illnesses, body, life, craziness, BUSYness, etc. again. :( Happy Holidays / Season's Greetings / Merry Christmas / etc. though. *<|:D
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
/ /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )

gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:21:47 -0600, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> >In alt.windows7.general Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 21/12/2021 16:02, mechanic wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 06:55:52 -0800, RecentlyOrLately wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
> >> >>
> >> >> is the popular one.
> >> >
> >> > For some weird definition of 'popular'.
> >
> >> But there are so many other microsoft.public.windowsxp.* groups that
> >> you'd need to join just to make sure you didn't miss anything.
> >
> >But they're mostly quiet compared to W7 and W10. :P

> Lots of things don't work in XP that work in 7. I am not quite sure
> what you get with 10 or 11 that I don't get with 7 except a voracious
> appetite for resources.

Newer hardwares. :(
--
Dang coldness, colony, works, leaks, mess, z, software upgrades, free games, spams, (scam/fraud)s, greeds, inflations, illnesses, body, life, craziness, BUSYness, etc. again. :( Happy Holidays / Season's Greetings / Merry Christmas / etc. though. *<|:D
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
/ /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:24:14 -0500, Paul wrote:

> After this, Microsoft closed their own hierarchy, without sending
> signed rmgroup() commands. For many administrators, they would simply
> accept these and the groups would disappear.

And now we're stuck without a DOS5 group!

mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:24:14 -0500, Paul wrote:
>
> > After this, Microsoft closed their own hierarchy, without sending
> > signed rmgroup() commands. For many administrators, they would simply
> > accept these and the groups would disappear.
>
> And now we're stuck without a DOS5 group!

Nope, we're not! There are even Real Big8 (TM) groups, instead of that
alt and microsoft crap! :-)

comp.os.msdos.apps Discussion of applications that run under MS-DOS.
comp.os.msdos.misc Miscellaneous topics about MS-DOS machines.
comp.os.msdos.programmer Programming MS-DOS machines.

I'm subscribed to .apps and .misc. There's of course little activity,
but once in a while there still are (on topic) posts. And there are also
some more comp.os.msdos.* groups.

In alt.windows7.general Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:24:14 -0500, Paul wrote:
> >
> > > After this, Microsoft closed their own hierarchy, without sending
> > > signed rmgroup() commands. For many administrators, they would simply
> > > accept these and the groups would disappear.
> >
> > And now we're stuck without a DOS5 group!

> Nope, we're not! There are even Real Big8 (TM) groups, instead of that
> alt and microsoft crap! :-)

> comp.os.msdos.apps Discussion of applications that run under MS-DOS.
> comp.os.msdos.misc Miscellaneous topics about MS-DOS machines.
> comp.os.msdos.programmer Programming MS-DOS machines.

> I'm subscribed to .apps and .misc. There's of course little activity,
> but once in a while there still are (on topic) posts. And there are also
> some more comp.os.msdos.* groups.

Same for apple2 newsgroups. Newsgroups have many OLD stuff. Not many for
newer stuff. Sure, they have Windows 11 on SOME usenet servers.
--
Dang coldness, colony, works, leaks, rain, mess, z, software upgrades, free games, spams, (scam/fraud)s, greeds, inflations, illnesses, body, life, craziness, BUSYness, etc. again. :( Happy Holidays / Season's Greetings / Merry Christmas / etc. though. *<|:D
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
/ /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )

On 23 Dec 2021 19:25:13 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

> mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:24:14 -0500, Paul wrote:
>>
>>> After this, Microsoft closed their own hierarchy, without sending
>>> signed rmgroup() commands. For many administrators, they would simply
>>> accept these and the groups would disappear.
>>
>> And now we're stuck without a DOS5 group!
>
> Nope, we're not! There are even Real Big8 (TM) groups, instead of that
> alt and microsoft crap! :-)
>
> comp.os.msdos.apps Discussion of applications that run under MS-DOS.
> comp.os.msdos.misc Miscellaneous topics about MS-DOS machines.
> comp.os.msdos.programmer Programming MS-DOS machines.
>
> I'm subscribed to .apps and .misc. There's of course little activity,
> but once in a while there still are (on topic) posts. And there are also
> some more comp.os.msdos.* groups.

Think they'd be any good on DosBox + OpenGEM systems?

mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote:
> On 23 Dec 2021 19:25:13 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>
> > mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:24:14 -0500, Paul wrote:
> >>
> >>> After this, Microsoft closed their own hierarchy, without sending
> >>> signed rmgroup() commands. For many administrators, they would simply
> >>> accept these and the groups would disappear.
> >>
> >> And now we're stuck without a DOS5 group!
> >
> > Nope, we're not! There are even Real Big8 (TM) groups, instead of that
> > alt and microsoft crap! :-)
> >
> > comp.os.msdos.apps Discussion of applications that run under MS-DOS.
> > comp.os.msdos.misc Miscellaneous topics about MS-DOS machines.
> > comp.os.msdos.programmer Programming MS-DOS machines.
> >
> > I'm subscribed to .apps and .misc. There's of course little activity,
> > but once in a while there still are (on topic) posts. And there are also
> > some more comp.os.msdos.* groups.
>
> Think they'd be any good on DosBox + OpenGEM systems?

I don't know. Some people were rather strict about the charter and
would for example frown upon questions about running things in a Command
Prompt window on Windows, but others were/are way more lax and welcome
most anything. So just try and see.

FWIW, I had never heard about OpenGEM before your post, so I learned
somethin! :-).

On 24 Dec 2021 18:52:01 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

> FWIW, I had never heard about OpenGEM before your post, so I learned
> somethin! :-).

It was featured in a recent Lunduke Journal post, which prompted me
to try it (GEM) again, it was a staple in the early days before
Win3.1

In article <9rjdrg5622ctcrroj9m7116tcddlt1j3pq@4ax.com>, hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
>
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0800, Jordee <Jordee@Noplace.com> wrote:
>
> >What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?
> >
> >Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.
> >
> >I updated Seamonkey.
> >I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.
>
> Do you mean alt.comp.os.wwindows-xp?

I used to use seamonkey also, but found the spam really bad, I moved to MicroPlanet Gravity

--

mgarcia.org

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:11:26 -0800, Mike Garcia <no@mgarcia.spam>
wrote:

>In article <9rjdrg5622ctcrroj9m7116tcddlt1j3pq@4ax.com>, hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
>>
>> On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0800, Jordee <Jordee@Noplace.com> wrote:
>>
>> >What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?
>> >
>> >Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.
>> >
>> >I updated Seamonkey.
>> >I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.
>>
>> Do you mean alt.comp.os.wwindows-xp?
>
>I used to use seamonkey also, but found the spam really bad, I moved to MicroPlanet Gravity

This one still gets posts rather reqularly.

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

On 1/20/2022 8:49 PM, Casey@more.or.less.here.com wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:11:26 -0800, Mike Garcia <no@mgarcia.spam>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <9rjdrg5622ctcrroj9m7116tcddlt1j3pq@4ax.com>, hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
>>>
>>> On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0800, Jordee <Jordee@Noplace.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?
>>>>
>>>> Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.
>>>>
>>>> I updated Seamonkey.
>>>> I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.
>>>
>>> Do you mean alt.comp.os.wwindows-xp?
>>
>> I used to use seamonkey also, but found the spam really bad, I moved to MicroPlanet Gravity
>
> This one still gets posts rather reqularly.
>
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
>

Seamonkey has the same basic client as Thunderbird, as Seamonkey
is a "suite" similar to Netscape Communicator.

To correct a sequence numbering issue, such as the OP is seeing,
you can try:

nntp.aioe.org.rc <=== This is the NEWSRC file for one of
the AIOE servers, adjust name to taste

Find the item you want to fix. This is a line of text within the .rc file.

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: 1-159990 <=== this means all the articles
have been read in here, and the high
water mark is 159990.

To make the thing check for articles, you can (while exited from
Seamonkey), edit the .rc file, and change the entry like this.

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: 1-1

Now, the Seamonkey News program will check for articles.

Paul