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by: Kent Dickey - Thu, 6 Jul 2023 18:00 UTC

In article <4a8cbe00-b4a5-4506-849a-d5d1ee84291fn@googlegroups.com>,
A2CPM <a2@wilserv.com> wrote:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO-LyfNBjfE&t=1423s

It was an interesting interview, but only from a "founder's" perspective.
In summary: they made enough money to pay the employees and for operations,
but the founders didn't make much. Kyan was apparently bought out by
Apple, but I'm not sure what Apple did with this purchase.

Googling shows a Kyan product list, which included a "Code Optimizer
Toolkit" which includes the source code for the Runtime Library. I would
be interested in this, but it seems there is no archive of this anywhere.

Kent

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by: Jerry Penner - Thu, 6 Jul 2023 18:58 UTC

kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) writes:

> In article <4a8cbe00-b4a5-4506-849a-d5d1ee84291fn@googlegroups.com>,
> A2CPM <a2@wilserv.com> wrote:
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO-LyfNBjfE&t=1423s
>
> It was an interesting interview, but only from a "founder's" perspective.
> In summary: they made enough money to pay the employees and for operations,
> but the founders didn't make much. Kyan was apparently bought out by
> Apple, but I'm not sure what Apple did with this purchase.
>
> Googling shows a Kyan product list, which included a "Code Optimizer
> Toolkit" which includes the source code for the Runtime Library. I would
> be interested in this, but it seems there is no archive of this anywhere.

Not sure if you already know about this...

This ZIP file, http://www.appleoldies.ca/kix/KYANDSK.ZIP, contains a
disk image named CODEOPT.DSK that contains:

/OPTIMIZER
LIB BIN $9000 25 11873 <no date>
OP BIN $0800 11 4634 1987-Jan-16 20:00
OPLIB.MAIN1.I TXT $0002 63 31607 1986-Jul-28 00:00
OPLIB.MAIN2.I TXT $0002 59 29392 <no date>
OPLIB.PASCAL.I TXT $0002 46 22685 1986-Aug-23 00:00
SIEVE.P TXT $0002 1 507 1986-Aug-13 00:00
SIEVE.PC BIN $0800 3 978 1986-Aug-13 00:00
SIEVE.OP BIN $0800 8 3108 1986-Aug-13 00:00
Free space: 206 blocks

The .I files are assembler source, fwiw.

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Jerry jerry+a2 at jpen.ca

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by: Steven Hirsch - Fri, 7 Jul 2023 12:45 UTC

On 7/6/23 14:00, Kent Dickey wrote:
> In article <4a8cbe00-b4a5-4506-849a-d5d1ee84291fn@googlegroups.com>,
> A2CPM <a2@wilserv.com> wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO-LyfNBjfE&t=1423s
>
> It was an interesting interview, but only from a "founder's" perspective.
> In summary: they made enough money to pay the employees and for operations,
> but the founders didn't make much.

That's the way it usually goes with small businesses that have employees.
Been there, have the t-shirt.

My memories of using Kyan Pascal are marred by the fact that they were utterly
impossible to talk to. Support calls were never returned.

Subject	Author
Interview with Kyan Pascal creator	A2CPM
Re: Interview with Kyan Pascal creator	Kent Dickey
Re: Interview with Kyan Pascal creator	Jerry Penner
Re: Interview with Kyan Pascal creator	Steven Hirsch