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by: Paul R Schmidtbleich - Tue, 12 Oct 2021 16:39 UTC

This post is dealing specifically with "dosbox" under Tumbleweed. My
earlier version of
0.74.3 works far better with (what used to be) Geos/Emsemble than the new
version 0.77.x. I tried locking my old version under Yast Software
assuming LOCKING could not be overridden except by me. I do want other
Tumbleweed updates, but when I accept them, they also update "dosbox"
even as the "Lock symbol" remains on it. This is my problem.

(1) Is there a better answer?
(2) I thought about changing the name of my 0.74.3 version of "dosbox,"
but noticed in the file list given under "Yast Software" that the
executable in /bin isn't even listed. There may be others??? Would this
work or does Yast keep track of name changes and it would still be
updated?
Suggestions?

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by: Malcolm - Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:02 UTC

On 12 Oct 2021 16:39:17 GMT
Paul R Schmidtbleicher <paulrs@foxinternet.net> wrote:

> This post is dealing specifically with "dosbox" under Tumbleweed. My
> earlier version of
> 0.74.3 works far better with (what used to be) Geos/Emsemble than the
> new version 0.77.x. I tried locking my old version under Yast
> Software assuming LOCKING could not be overridden except by me. I do
> want other Tumbleweed updates, but when I accept them, they also
> update "dosbox" even as the "Lock symbol" remains on it. This is my
> problem.
>
> (1) Is there a better answer?
> (2) I thought about changing the name of my 0.74.3 version of
> "dosbox," but noticed in the file list given under "Yast Software"
> that the executable in /bin isn't even listed. There may be
> others??? Would this work or does Yast keep track of name changes
> and it would still be updated?
> Suggestions?
>
>
Hi
The command zypper al dosbox should retain the older version. How are
you updating your system, not via YaST, but zypper dup?

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by: Carlos E. R. - Tue, 12 Oct 2021 20:39 UTC

On 12/10/2021 18.39, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:
> This post is dealing specifically with "dosbox" under Tumbleweed. My
> earlier version of
> 0.74.3 works far better with (what used to be) Geos/Emsemble than the new
> version 0.77.x. I tried locking my old version under Yast Software
> assuming LOCKING could not be overridden except by me. I do want other
> Tumbleweed updates, but when I accept them, they also update "dosbox"
> even as the "Lock symbol" remains on it. This is my problem.

Not possible. Something else must be going on.

>
> (1) Is there a better answer?
> (2) I thought about changing the name of my 0.74.3 version of "dosbox,"
> but noticed in the file list given under "Yast Software" that the
> executable in /bin isn't even listed. There may be others??? Would this
> work or does Yast keep track of name changes and it would still be
> updated?

No, the packages have names inside.

zypper ll

should list the locks.

And

cat /etc/zypp/locks

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Carlos E.R.

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by: Paul R Schmidtbleich - Wed, 13 Oct 2021 00:47 UTC

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 22:39:47 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 12/10/2021 18.39, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:
>> This post is dealing specifically with "dosbox" under Tumbleweed. My
>> earlier version of 0.74.3 works far better with (what used to be)
>> Geos/Emsemble than the new version 0.77.x. I tried locking my old
>> version under Yast Software assuming LOCKING could not be overridden
>> except by me. I do want other Tumbleweed updates, but when I accept
>> them, they also update "dosbox" even as the "Lock symbol" remains on
>> it. This is my problem.
>
> Not possible. Something else must be going on.
>
>
>> (1) Is there a better answer?
>> (2) I thought about changing the name of my 0.74.3 version of "dosbox,"
>> but noticed in the file list given under "Yast Software" that the
>> executable in /bin isn't even listed. There may be others??? Would
>> this work or does Yast keep track of name changes and it would still be
>> updated?
>
> No, the packages have names inside.
>
>
> zypper ll
>
> should list the locks.
>
> And
>
> cat /etc/zypp/locks

I'm using the graphic interface when YAST says, "x Number of Updates," I
choose install updates. The Lock I'm using is also under "Yast Software"

Your "cat /etc/zypp/locks" yields nothing - shows me no REAL locks.

I tried what Malcolm advised as superuser: zypper al dosbox
This worked!
In trying to understand the MAN page on Zypper please define the "al" for
me
Thanks in Advance,
Paul

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by: Paul R Schmidtbleich - Wed, 13 Oct 2021 00:56 UTC

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 22:39:47 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

First: I was using the Yast Graphic Interface of Tumbleweed. I log into
Tumbleweed. It says, "X Number of Updates." I click install. In the
"Yast Software" under "System" I put a "lock" (little padlock) on dosbox.
This obviously did nothing!

Your "cat etc/zupp/locks" yielded nothing
I tried Malcolm's advise as Superuser: "zypper al dosbox"
This worked! Thanks
A second try at "cat /etc/zupp/locks" showed "dosbox" as locked (SUCCESS)

Now, in an effort to understand the MAN Page on zypper please define the
"al" in the command Malcolm gave me.

Thanks
Paul

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by: Malcolm - Wed, 13 Oct 2021 00:59 UTC

On 13 Oct 2021 00:56:19 GMT
Paul R Schmidtbleicher <paulrs@foxinternet.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 22:39:47 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> > On 12/10/2021 18.39, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:
> >> This post is dealing specifically with "dosbox" under Tumbleweed.
> >> My earlier version of 0.74.3 works far better with (what used to
> >> be) Geos/Emsemble than the new version 0.77.x. I tried locking my
> >> old version under Yast Software assuming LOCKING could not be
> >> overridden except by me. I do want other Tumbleweed updates, but
> >> when I accept them, they also update "dosbox" even as the "Lock
> >> symbol" remains on it. This is my problem.
> >
> > Not possible. Something else must be going on.
> >
> >
> >> (1) Is there a better answer?
> >> (2) I thought about changing the name of my 0.74.3 version of
> >> "dosbox," but noticed in the file list given under "Yast Software"
> >> that the executable in /bin isn't even listed. There may be
> >> others??? Would this work or does Yast keep track of name changes
> >> and it would still be updated?
> >
> > No, the packages have names inside.
> >
> >
> > zypper ll
> >
> > should list the locks.
> >
> > And
> >
> > cat /etc/zypp/locks
>
> First: I was using the Yast Graphic Interface of Tumbleweed. I log
> into Tumbleweed. It says, "X Number of Updates." I click install.
> In the "Yast Software" under "System" I put a "lock" (little padlock)
> on dosbox. This obviously did nothing!
>
> Your "cat etc/zupp/locks" yielded nothing
> I tried Malcolm's advise as Superuser: "zypper al dosbox"
> This worked! Thanks
> A second try at "cat /etc/zupp/locks" showed "dosbox" as locked
> (SUCCESS)
>
> Now, in an effort to understand the MAN Page on zypper please define
> the "al" in the command Malcolm gave me.
>
> Thanks
> Paul
>
>
>
Hi Paul
The safe/best way to update Tumbleweed is via zypper dup command as
root user.

I actually add verbosity to see more information;

zypper -vvv dup

No YaST or GUI software updaters...

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by: Carlos E. R. - Wed, 13 Oct 2021 05:26 UTC

On 13/10/2021 02.56, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 22:39:47 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> On 12/10/2021 18.39, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:
>>> This post is dealing specifically with "dosbox" under Tumbleweed. My
>>> earlier version of 0.74.3 works far better with (what used to be)
>>> Geos/Emsemble than the new version 0.77.x. I tried locking my old
>>> version under Yast Software assuming LOCKING could not be overridden
>>> except by me. I do want other Tumbleweed updates, but when I accept
>>> them, they also update "dosbox" even as the "Lock symbol" remains on
>>> it. This is my problem.
>>
>> Not possible. Something else must be going on.
>>
>>
>>> (1) Is there a better answer?
>>> (2) I thought about changing the name of my 0.74.3 version of "dosbox,"
>>> but noticed in the file list given under "Yast Software" that the
>>> executable in /bin isn't even listed. There may be others??? Would
>>> this work or does Yast keep track of name changes and it would still be
>>> updated?
>>
>> No, the packages have names inside.
>>
>>
>> zypper ll
>>
>> should list the locks.
>>
>> And
>>
>> cat /etc/zypp/locks
>
> First: I was using the Yast Graphic Interface of Tumbleweed. I log into
> Tumbleweed. It says, "X Number of Updates." I click install.

Well, consider this a "forbidden procedure" on Tumbleweed :-P

On tumbleweed you must only use:

zypper dup

everytime. Never "zypper patch" nor "zypper up" or the YaST equivalents.

> In the
> "Yast Software" under "System" I put a "lock" (little padlock) on dosbox.
> This obviously did nothing!
>
> Your "cat etc/zupp/locks" yielded nothing

Did you forget the "/" before etc?

> I tried Malcolm's advise as Superuser: "zypper al dosbox"
> This worked! Thanks
> A second try at "cat /etc/zupp/locks" showed "dosbox" as locked (SUCCESS)

Well, being Tumbleweed, a bug in YaST is possible.

>
> Now, in an effort to understand the MAN Page on zypper please define the
> "al" in the command Malcolm gave me.

al is short of addlock. So just search for that word.

addlock (al) [options] lock-spec...
Add a package lock. Specify packages to lock as explained above.

-r, --repo alias|name|#|URI
Restrict the lock to the specified repository.

-t, --type type
Lock only packages of specified type (default: package).
See section Package Types for list of available package types.

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Carlos E.R.

Subject	Author
Locking Software from Updates	Paul R Schmidtbleicher
Re: Locking Software from Updates	Malcolm
Re: Locking Software from Updates	Carlos E. R.
Re: Locking Software from Updates	Paul R Schmidtbleicher
Re: Locking Software from Updates	Paul R Schmidtbleicher
Re: Locking Software from Updates	Malcolm
Re: Locking Software from Updates	Carlos E. R.