I am going away from home and taking two laptops.
No one will be home.

How can I set up such that I can access my home computer to allow
sending files directly to the home computer ? Files will be too large
for eMail. I will have a fast internet connection at both ends.

I will have both a Win XP Pro and a Win 7 Pro PCs at home and also Win
XP Pro and Win 7 Pro PCs with me on my trip.

Some free application maybe ?

DaveO <DaveO@DaveO.com> wrote:
> I am going away from home and taking two laptops.
> No one will be home.
>
> How can I set up such that I can access my home computer to allow
> sending files directly to the home computer ? Files will be too large
> for eMail. I will have a fast internet connection at both ends.
>
> I will have both a Win XP Pro and a Win 7 Pro PCs at home and also Win
> XP Pro and Win 7 Pro PCs with me on my trip.
>
> Some free application maybe ?
>

More secure to use 7-Zip and save on HDs of laptops. If still not enough HD
room then a USB portable HD at under $100 for 1TB.

--
Zaidy036

On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 07:38:40 -0800, DaveO <DaveO@DaveO.com> wrote:

>I am going away from home and taking two laptops.
>No one will be home.
>
>How can I set up such that I can access my home computer to allow
>sending files directly to the home computer ? Files will be too large
>for eMail. I will have a fast internet connection at both ends.
>
>I will have both a Win XP Pro and a Win 7 Pro PCs at home and also Win
>XP Pro and Win 7 Pro PCs with me on my trip.
>
>Some free application maybe ?

Teamviewer is probably the obvious choice. Remote Desktop would also
work, but would require additional configuration. Whatever you decide,
give yourself enough time to set it up and test it before your trip.

Not what I asked !

So when the boat sinks, then what ?

I know, attach to a trans-atlantic cable and phone home.

Zaidy036 wrote:
> DaveO <DaveO@DaveO.com> wrote:
>> I am going away from home and taking two laptops.
>> No one will be home.
>>
>> How can I set up such that I can access my home computer to allow
>> sending files directly to the home computer ? Files will be too large
>> for eMail. I will have a fast internet connection at both ends.
>>
>> I will have both a Win XP Pro and a Win 7 Pro PCs at home and also Win
>> XP Pro and Win 7 Pro PCs with me on my trip.
>>
>> Some free application maybe ?
>>
>
> More secure to use 7-Zip and save on HDs of laptops. If still not enough HD
> room then a USB portable HD at under $100 for 1TB.
>
>

DaveO wrote:
> I am going away from home and taking two laptops.
> No one will be home.
>
> How can I set up such that I can access my home computer to allow
> sending files directly to the home computer ?  Files will be too large
> for eMail.  I will have a fast internet connection at both ends.
>
> I will have both a Win XP Pro and a Win 7 Pro PCs at home and also Win
> XP Pro and Win 7 Pro PCs with me on my trip.
>
> Some free application maybe ?
I'd just upload to some cloud-based site. There are lots of free ones.
And if I had to advise some human of them, a simple email will do the job.
Ed

Not carefully read.

Too large for eMail.

I do not want to mess with splitting.

Ed Cryer wrote:
> DaveO wrote:
>> I am going away from home and taking two laptops.
>> No one will be home.
>>
>> How can I set up such that I can access my home computer to allow
>> sending files directly to the home computer ?  Files will be too large
>> for eMail.  I will have a fast internet connection at both ends.
>>
>> I will have both a Win XP Pro and a Win 7 Pro PCs at home and also Win
>> XP Pro and Win 7 Pro PCs with me on my trip.
>>
>> Some free application maybe ?
>
> I'd just upload to some cloud-based site. There are lots of free ones.
> And if I had to advise some human of them, a simple email will do the job.
>
> Ed
>

DaveO <DaveO@DaveO.com> wrote:
>
> Not what I asked !
>
> So when the boat sinks, then what ?
>
> I know, attach to a trans-atlantic cable and phone home.
>
> Zaidy036 wrote:
>> DaveO <DaveO@DaveO.com> wrote:
>>> I am going away from home and taking two laptops.
>>> No one will be home.
>>>
>>> How can I set up such that I can access my home computer to allow
>>> sending files directly to the home computer ? Files will be too large
>>> for eMail. I will have a fast internet connection at both ends.
>>>
>>> I will have both a Win XP Pro and a Win 7 Pro PCs at home and also Win
>>> XP Pro and Win 7 Pro PCs with me on my trip.
>>>
>>> Some free application maybe ?
>>>
>>
>> More secure to use 7-Zip and save on HDs of laptops. If still not enough HD
>> room then a USB portable HD at under $100 for 1TB.
>>
>>
>
>

I know not what you asked but I think cheaper than expensive slow cruise
internet access so I hope included in your fare. Enjoy your trip.

When traveling I use free VNC from iPad to home Win 10 PC. Unless you leave
home PCs running also need to setup Wake-on-LAN for each one you want to
connect to.

--
Zaidy036

DaveO wrote:
> Not carefully read.
>
> Too large for eMail.
>
> I do not want to mess with splitting.
>
>
>
> Ed Cryer wrote:
>> DaveO wrote:
>>> I am going away from home and taking two laptops.
>>> No one will be home.
>>>
>>> How can I set up such that I can access my home computer to allow
>>> sending files directly to the home computer ?  Files will be too
>>> large for eMail.  I will have a fast internet connection at both ends.
>>>
>>> I will have both a Win XP Pro and a Win 7 Pro PCs at home and also
>>> Win XP Pro and Win 7 Pro PCs with me on my trip.
>>>
>>> Some free application maybe ?
>>
>> I'd just upload to some cloud-based site. There are lots of free ones.
>> And if I had to advise some human of them, a simple email will do the
>> job.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>
Badly understood.
Cloud bases are not email.
Ed

I only know about clouds when I look out my window pane.

79YO and memory failing fast.

I just want to preserve my high res trip photos.

I do not know any geeks or gurus.

Sorry to bother you all.

On 11/15/2021 3:16 PM, DaveO wrote:
> I only know about clouds when I look out my window pane.
>
> 79YO  and memory failing fast.
>
> I just want to preserve my high res trip photos.
>
> I do not know any geeks or gurus.
>
> Sorry to bother you all.
>

This is a hard thing to do as a DIY project.

That's why the audience is shying away from
misleading you about "how easy it is".

Certain of the tools, have a modicum of effort
put into security. OneDrive, Google Drive, Dropbox,
those provide a service and have applications
for download. But they don't always work the way
you want (interface wise). You could encrypt your
files before uploading them, to keep them "private".

Coincidental tools, like TeamViewer, have file sending
capability, and you could take advantage of something
like that. TeamViewer manages to get through your
router without PortForwarding being necessary. Who knows,
they might even use a Secure Socket Layer (SSL) when
sending the files over the Internet. This means, they
have put the effort into the project.

But hand-hewing this stuff, you would have to
be very knowledgeable to get away with that, and
have it work up to the last day of your vacation.

I would not do this, because I know my limits, and
I know what a "bottomless pit of trouble" looks like :-)
I am a veteran of poorly planned projects. I can
tell you exactly how to rush into stuff without thinking.

The Internet service at both ends, should be
symmetric for best results. If I used 15:1 service
at home here and 15:1 service at the cottage,
my file upload speed would be limited by the "1"
part and the performance would suck. Using
a 300:300 fiber at each end, would lead to at
least the network being fast. Sometimes, the
NAS or file server or storage at the ends,
can be abysmally slow (old equipment 10MB/sec,
newer equipment 100MB/sec).

And while some routers have a USB stick on the
side for storage, the firmware in the router
can be pretty bad. That makes such a feature a
poor thing to hitch your project to.

Paul

On 11/15/2021 7:38 AM, DaveO wrote:
> I am going away from home and taking two laptops.
> No one will be home.
>
> How can I set up such that I can access my home computer to allow
> sending files directly to the home computer ? Files will be too large
> for eMail. I will have a fast internet connection at both ends.
>
> I will have both a Win XP Pro and a Win 7 Pro PCs at home and also Win
> XP Pro and Win 7 Pro PCs with me on my trip.
>
> Some free application maybe ?
>

Do you have a Web site hosted by an ISP? If so, create a folder on your
Web site and then upload the files to it. I do have a Web site, and
that is how I make very large files accessible to others.

--
David E. Ross
"A Message to Those Who Are Not Vaccinated"
See my <http://www.rossde.com/index.html#vaccine>.

On 11/15/2021 12:16 PM, DaveO wrote:
> I only know about clouds when I look out my window pane.
>
> 79YO  and memory failing fast.
>
> I just want to preserve my high res trip photos.
>
> I do not know any geeks or gurus.
>
> Sorry to bother you all.
>

If you would consider an easy to use online storage approach, I've had
great results using Mega, they offer 20 GB FREE storage, good upload and
download speeds, and an intuitive user interface. Just make sure you
record your login & password.

https://mega.nz/login

On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 07:38:40 -0800, DaveO <DaveO@DaveO.com> wrote:

>I am going away from home and taking two laptops.
>No one will be home.
>
>How can I set up such that I can access my home computer to allow
>sending files directly to the home computer ? Files will be too large
>for eMail. I will have a fast internet connection at both ends.
>
>I will have both a Win XP Pro and a Win 7 Pro PCs at home and also Win
>XP Pro and Win 7 Pro PCs with me on my trip.
>
>Some free application maybe ?

Try Anydesk, works fine on WIN 7

DaveO <DaveO@daveo.com> wrote:
> I only know about clouds when I look out my window pane.

"the cloud" is only yuppie speak for remote file storage/access.
Nothing new in the last four decades or so. Only easier to use, cheaper,
faster, etc., but nothing fundamentally new.

> 79YO and memory failing fast.

Well, at that age, many here would consider you a youngster! :-)

Failing memory shouldn't be too much of a problem, provided you take
notes and take those with you.

> I just want to preserve my high res trip photos.
>
> I do not know any geeks or gurus.
>
> Sorry to bother you all.

If the trip is a week or less and the total size of the photos is 2GB
or less, then use wetransfer.com (<https://wetransfer.com>). It's very
ease to use. Just try it, i.e. send yourself some stuff, before you go.

Else, as has been suggested, use a cloud service. They're also very
easy to use from the browser on your laptop. Several have already been
mentioned, so I'll mention another one:

For example Google Drive, 15GB free, just enter
<https://drive.google.com/drive/my-drive> in your browser. Just click on
the down-triangle next to 'My Drive' in the middle pane and select
'Upload files' or 'Upload folder'. If you already have a Google account,
you already have your Google Drive. If not, you can create a (free)
account.

*And*, as has been said, keep and *extra* copy of your photos on a USB
stick on your body or whatever. So if the boat sinks and you survive,
you still have your photos on the USB stick and in the cloud.

Have a good one!

On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 07:38:40 -0800, DaveO <DaveO@DaveO.com> wrote:

>I am going away from home and taking two laptops.
>No one will be home.
>
>How can I set up such that I can access my home computer to allow
>sending files directly to the home computer ? Files will be too large
>for eMail. I will have a fast internet connection at both ends.
>
>I will have both a Win XP Pro and a Win 7 Pro PCs at home and also Win
>XP Pro and Win 7 Pro PCs with me on my trip.
>
>Some free application maybe ?

As suggested by two individuals already, put TeamViewer (free for
individual use) on all computers and set your home machines to "Grant
Easy Access". You can then use the "File Transfer" function to send
your photos home. Only downside being your home machines have to stay
on 24/7. If you don't want that, send them to a file sharing Site.

>>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

On 11/16/2021 8:23 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> DaveO <DaveO@daveo.com> wrote:
>> I only know about clouds when I look out my window pane.
>
> "the cloud" is only yuppie speak for remote file storage/access.
> Nothing new in the last four decades or so. Only easier to use, cheaper,
> faster, etc., but nothing fundamentally new.

Yes. The term "cloud" has become very popular in the last few years, but
I first heard it around 1990. In those days though, it didn't just mean
remote storage/access; it basically just meant anything accessed remotely.

--
Ken

On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 at 10:08:29, DaveO <DaveO@DaveO.com> wrote (my
responses usually follow points raised):
[]
>>> I am going away from home and taking two laptops.
>>> No one will be home.
>>>
>>> How can I set up such that I can access my home computer to allow
>>> sending files directly to the home computer ? Files will be too large
>>> for eMail. I will have a fast internet connection at both ends.
>>>
>>> I will have both a Win XP Pro and a Win 7 Pro PCs at home and also Win
>>> XP Pro and Win 7 Pro PCs with me on my trip.
>>>
>>> Some free application maybe ?
[]
It would probably help if we knew _why_ you wanted to do this. You've
said you want to save your trip photos "in case the boat sinks" (but
you, presumably, survive!). So I understand why you want to store files
on other than the PCs you'll have with you. And you make no mention of
accessing the files from the remote location, so it _sounds_ as if you
just want to do it for safety (of the data) purposes.

Two questions:
1. Any idea of total size of file in question?
2. Any reason the second location (the first being "with you") has to be
your home system?

You could use one of the remote-desktop softwares - TeamViewer is the
best-known, though IME sometimes decides you're using it for commercial
use and locks you out (they reset it if you explain to them that you're
not, or always have IME, but this can take several days); unless that
happens, I'd prefer it to the others, though. I know of at least two
others, both of which I think do not have the home-use-only restriction:
AnyDesk and distant-desktop. (Now I look [to find the name of
distant-desktop!], I find a third - nomachine. Although I've got the
installer, I don't think I've ever _used_ that one.) [Remote access can
be done entirely using things already built in to Windows, but it's more
complicated to set up, and may be more fragile.]

The various disadvantages of such a method are: you have to leave the
home computer on all the time. That involves a (probably small, but you
said nobody will be home) fire risk. (OK, you'll probably be leaving
other things on, not least a security system if you've got one.) It
involves a security risk - you're leaving a computer on, and furthermore
with a remote-access software running; someone could hack into it with
slightly more ease than if you didn't. Realistically, and unless you
have something _very_ valuable on the home computer (like card
numbers/passwords/etc.), I'd say this isn't a _great_ concern, but YMMV.
You're also relying on it remaining on and working. TeamViewer at least
can be configured to come up ready for remote access on boot, so as long
as the PC comes back after a power outage or other shutdown (overheat?),
you're OK; if it doesn't, or has much chance of locking up for any other
reason, you're not.

The other method most people are suggesting is "storing it on someone
else's computer", or as the modern term has it, cloud storage. This is
why I asked about the total size (and if it _has_ to be your home
system). Realistically, a lot of the even free services offer more
storage than you're likely to need for photos (maybe not if videos too).
The advantage of using one of these are mostly that you avoid the
problems with the above - no fire risk, no hacking risk (the cloud
storage could be hacked, but all there is _of yours_ they could get at
is the photos, whereas your home computer they could get at anything
else you have on it [or even hack your home security system to let them
in, depending how integrated your system is]). Probably better backup
too - many "cloud" providers back up people's uploads to various sites.
The only disadvantage I can think of is that someone else (the service
provider) has access to whatever you're storing (though you can encrypt
it). Oh, and should you need to access it, you'll have to download all
of it rather than it already being on your home system when you get home
- but since you having to do that means you've lost your camera and the
computers you'll have with you due to a ship sinking under you, I'd say
that'd be the least of your problems ...

Personally, I have a slight aversion to using "someone else's computer",
but realistically, I suspect the advantages of doing that rather than
sending home to an always-on home computer outweigh the disadvantages.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Actors are fairly modest...A lot of us have quite a lot to be modest about. -
Simon Greenall (voice of Aleksandr the "Simples!" Meerkat), RT 11-17 Dec 2010

Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> wrote:
> On 11/16/2021 8:23 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > DaveO <DaveO@daveo.com> wrote:
> >> I only know about clouds when I look out my window pane.
> >
> > "the cloud" is only yuppie speak for remote file storage/access.
> > Nothing new in the last four decades or so. Only easier to use, cheaper,
> > faster, etc., but nothing fundamentally new.
>
> Yes. The term "cloud" has become very popular in the last few years, but
> I first heard it around 1990. In those days though, it didn't just mean
> remote storage/access; it basically just meant anything accessed remotely.

I kept my explanation of "the cloud" in (this) context and kept it
simple for DaveO's sake.

Your "around 1990" is apparently correct. Wikepedia dates it to 1994:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing#Early_history>

"The use of the cloud metaphor for virtualized services dates at least
to General Magic in 1994, where it was used to describe the universe of
"places" that mobile agents in the Telescript environment could go. As
described by Andy Hertzfeld:

"The beauty of Telescript," says Andy, "is that now, instead of just
having a device to program, we now have the entire Cloud out there,
where a single program can go and travel to many different sources
of information and create a sort of a virtual service."[17]

The use of the cloud metaphor is credited to General Magic
communications employee David Hoffman, based on long-standing use in
networking and telecom. In addition to use by General Magic itself, it
was also used in promoting AT&T's associated PersonaLink Services.[18]"

On 11/17/2021 8:15 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/16/2021 8:23 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> > DaveO <DaveO@daveo.com> wrote:
>> >> I only know about clouds when I look out my window pane.
>> >
>> > "the cloud" is only yuppie speak for remote file storage/access.
>> > Nothing new in the last four decades or so. Only easier to use, cheaper,
>> > faster, etc., but nothing fundamentally new.
>>
>> Yes. The term "cloud" has become very popular in the last few years, but
>> I first heard it around 1990. In those days though, it didn't just mean
>> remote storage/access; it basically just meant anything accessed remotely.
>
> I kept my explanation of "the cloud" in (this) context and kept it
> simple for DaveO's sake.

OK.

> Your "around 1990" is apparently correct. Wikepedia dates it to 1994:

Wikipedia is wrong. I first heard it from someone who worked for me in
the job I retired from in 1993. He left the company in 1991.

--
Ken

Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> wrote:
> On 11/17/2021 8:15 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> wrote:
> >> On 11/16/2021 8:23 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> >> > DaveO <DaveO@daveo.com> wrote:
> >> >> I only know about clouds when I look out my window pane.
> >> >
> >> > "the cloud" is only yuppie speak for remote file storage/access.
> >> > Nothing new in the last four decades or so. Only easier to use, cheaper,
> >> > faster, etc., but nothing fundamentally new.
> >>
> >> Yes. The term "cloud" has become very popular in the last few years, but
> >> I first heard it around 1990. In those days though, it didn't just mean
> >> remote storage/access; it basically just meant anything accessed remotely.
> >
> > I kept my explanation of "the cloud" in (this) context and kept it
> > simple for DaveO's sake.
>
>
> OK.
>
>
> > Your "around 1990" is apparently correct. Wikepedia dates it to 1994:
>
>
> Wikipedia is wrong. I first heard it from someone who worked for me in
> the job I retired from in 1993. He left the company in 1991.

Probably a different (use of the term) "cloud".

Note: The context of the Wikipedia article is cloud *computing*. As
the Wikipedia article mentions (earlier), the cloud *symbol* ('icon')
was in use as early as 1977 in the context of *networks* (i.e. not cloud
computing).

Probably you heard the term "cloud" in a networks context, not in a
"cloud computing" context (i.e. "the on-demand availability of computer
system resources ... without direct active management by the user").

Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

> Note: The context of the Wikipedia article is cloud *computing*. As
>the Wikipedia article mentions (earlier), the cloud *symbol* ('icon')
>was in use as early as 1977 in the context of *networks* (i.e. not cloud
>computing).

Yup. We used to use that symbol in drawing flowcharts, back in the
stone age.

--
Tim Slattery
tim <at> risingdove <dot> com

"DaveO" <DaveO@DaveO.com> wrote

|I only know about clouds when I look out my window pane.
| | 79YO and memory failing fast.
|

Maybe try to at least remember that the people here
are trying to help. They don't need you snapping at them
for no reason.

Ed and Zaidy036 both offer good advice. On the off
chance that you don't die of dehydration from a
norovirus plague onboard, a USB stick would make sense.
Do you really think you're going to care about your photos
of old people with sunburns if the ship sinks? If you must,
then online storage might also be good. Remote access
software is an extreme security risk. A large percentage
of Windows vulnerabilities exploit that functionality, which
really never should have been invented as a direct connection.
You should never set up that kind of software on any computer
you care about. If you have to use it, set it up on a computer
that you don't use much and which has no sensitive files.

| I just want to preserve my high res trip photos.
| | I do not know any geeks or gurus.
| | Sorry to bother you all.
|

If you don't want to expose your home PC to unwanted access, why not use a free
cloud service from MS, Google, Apple or whoever? Most give 5GB for free.
(Dropbox was a solution too, before they dastardly went bait-and-switch)

Encrypt the files into a passworded zip or rar or whatever, and upload them
while on the road. Download them and remove from the cloud when you're back.
Easy.

DaveO wrote:

>I am going away from home and taking two laptops.
>No one will be home.
>
>How can I set up such that I can access my home computer to allow
>sending files directly to the home computer ? Files will be too large
>for eMail. I will have a fast internet connection at both ends.
>
>I will have both a Win XP Pro and a Win 7 Pro PCs at home and also Win
>XP Pro and Win 7 Pro PCs with me on my trip.
>
>Some free application maybe ?

On 11/15/2021 10:38 AM, DaveO wrote:
> I am going away from home and taking two laptops.
> No one will be home.
>
> How can I set up such that I can access my home computer to allow
> sending files directly to the home computer ?  Files will be too large
> for eMail.  I will have a fast internet connection at both ends.
>
> I will have both a Win XP Pro and a Win 7 Pro PCs at home and also Win
> XP Pro and Win 7 Pro PCs with me on my trip.
>
> Some free application maybe ?

I would suggest an item on sale now:

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As I understand using a free remote connection (TeamViewer, VNC, etc) to
home PC requires home PC to be on or Wake-On-Lan (WOL) capable but first
up load data to some "cloud" site and then log into home and have it d/l
from cloud and then sign off home when complete. Very time sensitive
process when trying to enjoy a vacation. 1TB can hold a lot of JPGs at a
small cost compared to total cost of vacations and a very handy device
to have for other uses.